Talk:The United States of America (album)
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editI haven't seen the flag graphics prior...cute...and good content. Tvccs 18:46, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
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United States of America
editHi! I don't know if you've seen this discussion page - it sort of confirms what I remember, that "The Garden of Earthly Delights" was issued as a single in the UK. It was certainly played on radio a fair amount - unfortunately I didn't buy it because I was saving up for the LP, which I still have and treasure. Can you/we track down any confirmation that it was issued as a single? Ghmyrtle (talk) 20:13, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
- Hi! I'm doing some research on some off time now. I'll look into it to find for certain that it was released. Hard to find discographies on these sort of things for bands that generally only had one full LP. I'll look around though. Cheers! Andrzejbanas (talk) 20:28, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
- Great stuff! Is this guy Richard Durrett? Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:37, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
- Hi again! thanks! I was sort of on a wiki-sugar rush with that article. Thanks for correcting my awful grammar. I don't know if that's the same one. And I've yet to find much about it's british release, as it didn't sell well in the UK. Curses. Thanks noticing! :) Andrzejbanas (talk) 00:38, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
- Although it's true that the album didn't sell well enough in a short time in the UK to make any charts, it certainly gained a following in "underground" circles of the time, both because "Garden.." was played on a few radio shows, but mainly because "..Wooden Wife.." was featured on this sampler album, which because it was so inexpensive and featured both highly respected and new artists became an essential purchase for a great many people (teenagers and older) at the time, and sold a lot of copies. (Apparently Byrd didn't know about this until I raised it here in discussion with another fan a couple of years ago.) I'm sure the USA album sold a fair few copies in the UK, but spread over a long period (as did, for instance, Love's Forever Changes). Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:13, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, I wasn't referring specifically to the idea that people didn't like the album in the UK. I'm sure it has it's audience I was just saying to it's popularity in comparison to how it charted in the US. I haven't found citable information about singles in other countries except with an interview with Dorothy Moskowitz saying that she thinks there were some singles in other countries, which isn't really a strong enough thing to state I think...Thanks for your concern though. I'm glad you like The USA as much as I do, if not more. :) Andrzejbanas (talk) 17:00, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
- Although it's true that the album didn't sell well enough in a short time in the UK to make any charts, it certainly gained a following in "underground" circles of the time, both because "Garden.." was played on a few radio shows, but mainly because "..Wooden Wife.." was featured on this sampler album, which because it was so inexpensive and featured both highly respected and new artists became an essential purchase for a great many people (teenagers and older) at the time, and sold a lot of copies. (Apparently Byrd didn't know about this until I raised it here in discussion with another fan a couple of years ago.) I'm sure the USA album sold a fair few copies in the UK, but spread over a long period (as did, for instance, Love's Forever Changes). Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:13, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
- Hi again! thanks! I was sort of on a wiki-sugar rush with that article. Thanks for correcting my awful grammar. I don't know if that's the same one. And I've yet to find much about it's british release, as it didn't sell well in the UK. Curses. Thanks noticing! :) Andrzejbanas (talk) 00:38, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
- Great stuff! Is this guy Richard Durrett? Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:37, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
I notice you've changed the main sleeve illustration to the "paper bag". In the UK, that version was never issued (so far as I'm aware), and it's always been the other version (black with divided circle of photos) that the album has been known by. My opinion would be that the pictures would be better changed around, with the black/photos version as the main one by which it is known globally, and the paper bag version as a subsidiary illustration to show the original US issue - what do you think? Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:15, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- Hi! Thanks for taking such an interest in the album and article. It's a good point, but considering the group is American I think the original American cover is better for historical context. The other cover should definitely be shown as well though. I kind of wanted to add it to the infobox, but I didn't want to the article to become ridiculously huge. That's just my idea on it. What do you think? Andrzejbanas (talk) 07:00, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- No big deal - see if anyone else supports my opinion. But I've modified the caption, for clarity. Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:17, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- Good call. Thanks for being supportive on my idea about it too. Good call on editing the text. Thanks again! Andrzejbanas (talk) 07:34, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- No big deal - see if anyone else supports my opinion. But I've modified the caption, for clarity. Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:17, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
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Cloud Song lyrics - AA Milne
editHi, not familiar with editing Wikipedia but I believe AA Milne should be credited with the lyrics for Cloud Song — unless they’re even older than his use. Google them and I’m sure you’ll agree they’re not original in this album. Can someone let me know if they concur? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.115.160.137 (talk) 17:08, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
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Nominator: Iostn (talk · contribs) 13:41, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: Blueskiesdry (talk · contribs) 01:22, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: NegativeMP1 (talk · contribs) 02:49, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
I’ve been meaning to listen to this album. Will start the review in a couple days.
@Iostn: So it appears that the reviewer has taken... quite a while longer than a couple days. If you would like me to, I'd be willing to take over this review and probably get it done fairly quickly. Your thoughts? λ NegativeMP1 01:15, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- That would be fine, although I might need to do some quick work to see if there's any extra details I could add Iostn (talk) 06:42, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Alright, lemme know whenever you do that and I'll take a look afterwards. λ NegativeMP1 18:16, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- @NegativeMP1 It should be ready now Iostn (talk) 18:52, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not even going to ask how I didn't get the notification for this, I'm sorry. I'll take a look as soon as possible. λ NegativeMP1 20:18, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- @NegativeMP1 It should be ready now Iostn (talk) 18:52, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Alright, lemme know whenever you do that and I'll take a look afterwards. λ NegativeMP1 18:16, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
Review
edit- Lead could use some more work to give it a little more meat. I'd say start by adding a sentence or so about the background/production.
- Is it possible to split Background into two paragraphs?
- I think there should be a sample of one of the tracks off the album, so that it's possible to accurately understand what the music in the album sounds like. I'm pretty sure it would meet NFCC.
- I don't really know how much the quote box helps here?
- "The tunes are infectious, the harmonies adventurous yet eminently satisfying. And the lyrics (which Columbia has wisely printed on the jacket) are the best thing of all", wrote Barret Hansen in his 1968 review for Rolling Stone." → "In his 1968 review, Barret Hansen of Rolling Stone wrote that "the tunes are infectious, the harmonies adventurous yet eminently satisfying. And the lyrics (which Columbia has wisely printed on the jacket) are the best thing of all", wrote Barret Hansen in his 1968 review for Rolling Stone." Consistency.
- When rewriting the article for Wake Me Up When September Ends, I found several sources from Far Out that I wasn't sure if I could use or not. I'm uncertain on the sites reliability, though if you think it is then I'd say it's fine.
- Release history table needs sources. Sourcing the personnel and track lists would also help, even if its just citing the album itself.
- Spotchecked sources 5, 22, and 28. All verify the text I checked for.
- Not required, but alt text on the images would be nice.
Overall, this is a pretty well written article and I don't have too many complaints. I'll put this on hold for now to give you time to address the comments I did have. λ NegativeMP1 17:38, 16 August 2024 (UTC)