Commons:Deletion requests/Files found with 31411679@N08

Files found with Special:Search/31411679@N08

Flickrwashing - some of these print ads may have fallen out of copyright but most are too recent (as recent as 2010).

The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 01:25, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Add derivative crop File:Ford indigo concept cropped.jpg -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 01:28, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Restoring the following, which were part of the original filing, but were removed by Pechristener. Pechristener: Instead of removing files from a DR, strike them through.

The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 06:22, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep images with dates in the titles earlier than 1929, plus File:Studebaker Electric Coupe (51758266298).jpg, File:Studebaker Electric (52801141798).jpg, File:Studebaker Electric (52800135982).jpg, as {{PD-US-expired}} copies of old US publication advertisements. Delete all the rest unless individual files can be independently verified as out of copyright or free licensed. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 01:33, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:1937 Chevrolet Carryall Suburban.jpg and File:1937 Chevrolet Carryall Suburban (front).jpg don't seem to be print ads, and were verified as having valid flickr licenses after upload. I don;t think these are the only examples. Hohum (talk) 01:54, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The Squirrel Conspiracy has simply made a blanket request for deletion rather than checking the situation first. You need to check if another licence can be applied, or if there really is a Flickr wash, before submitting files for deletion. I have already saved the 100+ year old Sunbeam Ambulance.jpg from deletion: I fixed the licence and removed it from the list. --Pechristener (talk) 02:06, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Regarding File:Ab Jenkins.jpg that advertisement, he refers to himself in the present tense as working at Auburn Automotive Company which was 1935–1937. So 86 years old must qualify for some license.̴̴̴̴--Ron Clausen (talk) 02:24, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

license fixed Pechristener (talk) 03:06, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep all those pre-1977. Up until 1977 you had to register for a copyright and display a copyright symbol on the ad. --RAN (talk) 03:16, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep images which are clearly not print ads such as File:Red Power Wagon WM-100.jpg and File:1968 Chevrolet Biscayne.jpg as well as images which have fallen out of copyright as mentioned by others here. Additionally, for images such as File:McLaren Capri Convertible.jpg there's no evidence these came from a print publication either. In fact they seem to be personal photos, with nothing identifying them as being copyrighted elsewhere. For many of the rest of them, they seem to have been taken by a late photographer friend of the uploader, so not sure where that falls in terms of copyright, probably a delete. TKOIII (talk) 04:16, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As per the others, many of these are not adverts but the uploader's own photos and had the correct license at the time of upload. mr.choppers (talk)^-en- 10:34, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Many of the images are old automobile advertisement from the 1910s-1930s are illustrations of rare and obscure automobiles. They must be all public domain by now. --Vauxford (talk) 12:18, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment US publication copyrights from that era rely on date and compliance with copyright formalities. All pre-1929 US publications are public domain. With the more recent ones, in short, it depends; see Commons:Hirtle chart for details. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 17:01, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have no opinion about most of these, but Delete File:1960_Lloyd_Arabella_(51904007368).jpg. This was created by Deutsche Industrie-Ausstellung in 1959, and is still copyrighted in Germany. These images were distributed as postcards, compare things like this. They cannot be out of copyright because they are too young. Renerpho (talk) 13:01, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have no opinion about the deletion but I do find being accused of Flickrwashing quite disturbing and would hope OP did a better job of looking at individual files prior to making such accusation. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:38, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@CNMall41: A substantial number of those files obviously were/are copyright violations, so I agree with OP that this was a case of license laundering. This doesn't have to be done on purpose to be a problem, and the license laundering is done by the Flickr user, not by whoever uploads the images to Commons (if those are different people), so I don't think this is an accusation against any particular Commons user.

That said, I also agree that OP ought to have checked the individual cases, rather than nominate files for deletion that clearly don't need to be. I certainly expect better from an admin (or any experienced user, for that matter). Renerpho (talk) 19:52, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That makes sense. Thanks for clarification. My apologies to OP for accusing them or accusing me. lol --CNMall41 (talk) 19:55, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am still amazed at how many commons users blithely upload clear copyvios from Flickr, no matter what the license. Flickr defaults to whatever license you used last, which explains a lot of this type of activity, and many uploaders simply assume that they're doing the right thing by not claiming the works of others as their own. I don't think the intent is nefarious. mr.choppers (talk)^-en- 20:06, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have unstruck File:1912 Mercer Raceabout ad.jpg, it is clearly NOT an original 1912 advertisement, but artwork depicting a vintage automobile, stylistically I'd guess c 1950s - 1980s. Delete Unless details of true source and actual free license can be established. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 20:25, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I think is work by US illustrator Raymond A. Dallasta (1934-1992) who seems to have created a series of paintings of vintage autos used in decorative prints and puzzles. No evidence of free license. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 23:08, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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