Commons:Categories for discussion/2010/02/Category:Gyms and Health Clubs
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First, this needs decapitalizing. Second, I wonder if one of the two following names wouldn't be better: either we use a short name just as on en wiki - en:Category:Health clubs - or we go with all three, en:Category:Gyms, fitness and health clubs (frankly, I am not sure what's the difference between those three, if any). Note that on en wiki fitness club redirects to health clubs, while gym does not, but it is linked to our Category:Gymnasiums (the article probably should be moved to gymnasium, and gym should become a disambig...). Anyway, comments appreciated on whether we take the gyms out of this cat, or keep it and add fitness clubs to it. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 21:59, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
- Recommend "gyms and health clubs" because they are usually facilities as opposed to fitness, which implies to me an activity. If we go with one name, either "gym" or "health club", then we should use a redirect for the other. I'm not sure about the distinction between "gyms and health clubs" and "gymnasiums" categories, perhaps these should be merged. FieldMarine (talk) 21:44, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
- "Gymnasiums" is being used in the sense of the sort of thing usually found in a school or a community center, where the facility is mainly a large room for team sports such as basketball. I do think the two are different enough to deserve separate categories. I don't think we should go with just "gyms" because of the confusion with this other type of "gymnasiums". I have no preference on whether "fitness" is added, but we should de-capitalize. - Jmabel ! talk 05:01, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
I support a move to suit the English Wikipedia, i.e. "Health clubs". We can disambiguate from a "gym" page. Ingolfson (talk) 11:32, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
- I'm also for Category:Health clubs (or Category:Fitness centers). "Gyms", at least in the U.S., already has the same broader meaning as the current Category:Gymnasiums on Commons; school gyms (i.e. the open areas usually used for basketball, volleyball, and P.E.) are called gyms just as often as fitness centers are.
- It's correctly a subcategory of Category:Gymnasiums, so it doesn't make sense to name it Gyms and [whatever], when it's actually for a particular type of gym. I'd start by trying to write a description for the category to see what's in scope. Perhaps "Gymnasiums operated by companies for their customers. They may include additional health-related activities?". This would exclude gymnasiums operated by companies for their staff, community health centres etc. I'd suggest "Commercial gymnasiums, health clubs and fitness centres(sp)", but it's getting a bit long. A fitness centre is just a gym, so maybe "Commercial gyms and health clubs." ghouston (talk) 02:41, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
- Maybe "Commercial gyms" would be sufficient. ghouston (talk) 02:51, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
- Hi. I just happened upon this category and moved all the subcats and images before seeing just now the banner indicating this discussion. I'm really sorry, and don't know how I didn't notice it prior (I must've just acted in knee-jerk response when seeing the capital letters). Let me know if the eventual consensus here requires that I move them back. Nightscream (talk) 17:00, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
- That solves the first issue, at least. I added the discussion banner to the new category, Category:Gyms and health clubs, pointing to this page. ghouston (talk) 23:50, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
- I notice that you also created a category Category:School gyms, which is a duplicate of Category:School gymnasiums. I guess you were fooled by the title of this page into thinking it was the main Gymnasium category instead of a particular subcategory. This makes me think that Category:Commercial gyms would be the best name. ghouston (talk) 00:02, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
- But then, what about something like a YMCA fitness centre? Is that also in scope for this category? YMCA isn't really commercial. ghouston (talk) 00:10, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
Now I think Category:Health clubs would be best, since although the name isn't very descriptive, it matches Wikipedia and seems to be in common usage. ghouston (talk) 03:50, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
I'm going to close this discussion and rename it to Category:Health clubs, since it's consistent with Wikipedia, nobody else has commented on the naming for almost a year, and most of the previous comments supported this option. ghouston (talk) 01:41, 17 September 2012 (UTC)