Commons:Deletion requests/Template:DutchRoyalNavy

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Template:DutchRoyalNavy

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"Bedankt voor uw reactie. Zoals we al op de pagina's in de fotogalerij vermelden, het is toegestaan om één van de getoonde foto's te gebruiken voor publicaties. Ten overvloede, en misschien ter verduidelijking, wensen we nog te vermelden dat bij gebruik als volgt bronvermelding dient plaats te vinden: « BRON: KONINKLIJKE MARINE" »." [emphasized by me] That means it may be used for publication purposes if credit is given. Publication purposes generally refers to contexts of journalistic or historic writings that talk about the event depicted on the picture. The words "for any purpose" were invented by the template creator and cannot be found in the statement; they are subjective, uncritical interpretation. Further, it cannot be assumed that a web master is in the position to release rights. Moreover, I advise that Commons should accept only pictures for which the source web site displays a clear CC license tag (or has an equivalent release boilerplate for a standard, non-home-brew license). --Rtc 06:00, 25 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep - Vorerst behalten. Ich habe den niederländischen User MarcoVD benachrichtigt, der die Lizenznachfrage damals abgewickelt hat. Ich hoffe, dass sich bald neues ergibt. Ich halte euch auf dem Laufenden. --W.wolny 07:54, 25 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Dafür war über ein Jahr Zeit. Wir haben es bereits damals vorerst behalten. Es wird sowieso einige Zeit dauern, bis gelöscht wird.--Rtc 08:22, 25 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep- The website clearly states: "Voor alle foto's geldt dat ze vrij mogen worden gebruikt, onder vermelding van "BRON: KONINKLIJKE MARINE"."—the preceding unsigned comment was added by DirkV (talk • contribs)
    • Such arguments won't help you here, since it talks neither expressly of commercial use nor of derivative works. an argument would be to convince them to put a CC license on their web site for these pictures. --Rtc 08:27, 25 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • They state the pictures can be freely used and don't mention any exception of anny kind, they only want them to be mentionend as the source. So what is the restriction that you object to?84.105.65.29 09:19, 25 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
        • "freely" and "used" can both mean a lot of things if left without qualification. You have to see the broader context, and we need to be critical when doing your interpretation. Don't take anything literal. That's a good advice in general. If they really mean a free license as we understand that here, you should have an easy way to ask them to replace their home-brew license by a standard CC license tag, and I will immediately cancel the deletion request the second the tag appears on their site. --Rtc 11:44, 25 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Publication purposes only. -- Bryan (talk to me) 12:09, 25 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Seems clear (see Ticket#: 2007032910012263), as it says “niet bewerken.” This discussion should be closed soon, and the images deleted. Also, this discussion and the Riksdag discussion show that the users saying things like “{{subst:Vk}}, 'free use' is a free license” should be ignored when deletion requests are closed. Free use is not a free license! Kjetil r 00:48, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted and redirected to {{Nonderivative}}: As a side note they explicitly disallowed use in combination with other stuff ("niet bewerken of monteren"). The images are thus not only unfree, but their use on Wiki[mp]edia is also a copyright violation. -- Bryan (talk to me) 21:41, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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