Commons:Deletion requests/File:EightTNOs.png

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File:EightTNOs.png

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Wrong license and missing attribution, compare file talk page. Renerpho (talk) 07:38, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • I modified an original with extended bodies and moon scaled to best estimates. What do you suggest we do? Remake it all from scratch? User:tomruen 10:03, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't know anything about licence or attribution and I do understand that these things are important, but I would request that if it can't be fixed, we hang on until it is replaced by something similar- people really do want something like this that gives a relative picture of the big TNO's to get perpective on Pluto not being a planet etc.
  • IceDragon64 (talk) 17:47, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • What I don't understand is why we can't just change the license and attribution; why is a deletion needed here? If it's simply unusable in its current state, I would be happy to do a public-domain illustration to replace the wrongly licensed images in question. Exoplanetaryscience (talk) 06:06, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • To be honest, I've started to dislike this graphic because it relied on inaccurate artists' impressions that were made long before we found out about the properties of these TNOs. For example Quaoar, which was originally colored blue in the 2002 NASA/Caltech press release and then later being crudely recolored a pinkish-red in a 2004 NASA/Caltech press release. Although it attempts to depict Quaoar's "reddish" color, the depiction is still inaccurate—what "reddish" really means is a dark beige color to the human eye, resembling the true color image of Pluto. All the other "red" TNOs depicted in this graphic are also exaggerated: Gonggong, Sedna, and Makemake appear far too red instead of beige. If you're wondering how I know this, the true colors are derived from the TNOs' visible color indices and spectra with the help of my friend's "True Color Tools" software. With the recent news of the true color of Neptune and @CactiStaccingCrane: 's (and my) efforts in using them across Wikipedia, I feel that depicting true colors is necessary to dispel any misconceptions about these astronomical objects.
True colors aside, I also don't like how the phases of the objects are inconsistent. It's not possible to fix this if you only use publicly available artist's impressions; there aren't enough of them out there. With all these issues I've pointed out, I think it's better to recreate this graphic from scratch—I'll be the one to do it. My plan here is to hand-draw the objects digitally—I have some experience with digital art. I'll try to have the new version depict the ten TNOs' latest true colors, albedos, dimensions, and predicted/known surface features. I'll make sure to provide links to the scientific papers justifying the illustrated details in the file description. Nrco0e (talk) 05:15, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I love these picture and information. Until you can get into orbit and take your own pictures I don't see how you can judge these dipictions of space objects. Get real! The only reason you would have to have exact information is if you were planning a visit. Sandie Hardman (talk) 04:08, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination, missing proper attribution for photographs used. --Abzeronow (talk) 01:17, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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