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Byond

Byond does look like it might deserve greater coverage in other sources. But there are some things which, as an outsider looking at it quickly, I just don't understand.

• Byond says "no spyware ever" and discloses in the terms of service under "privacy" only that it collects e-mail addresses but won't share them. Yet one of the few mentions I find of the site searching around on Google is help bypassing bans on Byond by changing the user's hard drive serial number. [1] It would indeed be interesting to see a RS go through and give an account of the site's privacy practices.

• Byond says that it is "100% Free". But the Terms of Service say that users can "upgrade their account through the BYOND Membership program" for a fee. How much of 100% Free do you have to pay for?

• Byond advertises itself as a way that anyone can make a game. What's not clear to me just reading through: are these games then playable anywhere, or only on Byond?

One reason why Wikipedia wants reliable sources and not just the originating web site is that we want journalists to ask and answer some of the hard questions, so we're not cheerleading for something we don't understand.

Meanwhile, you could consider going to Wikinews with some kind of Byond event, which if it's interesting enough, might be newsworthy. (I don't know much about the project) Or you can write up a step-by-step example of how to create a playable game with Byond for Wikiversity as a programming exercise. Wnt (talk) 15:55, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Well, see, BYOND's website does keep track of IPs, as all websites with user accounts do. There's also a thing which the BYOND Developers call "computer_id" it's some kind of hashed numerical string, unique for each computer. Neither are very important, nor will harm the user if they're public, which is the case, most of the time. People who create games also are able to access this information through methods programmed into the DM Language. Each client has an "address" and a "computer_id". That link discusses avoiding a ban on a game someone made. Supposedly, changing your serial number will change the ID, but the BYOND Devs still say "It's pretty hard to change your computer_id." Whatever the games do with that information is up to them, though. BYOND only tracks IP and possibly Computer ID to associate keys, and make sure people aren't pulling some kind of Multiple personality nonsense.

The software, is 100% free. You don't need to pay anything to create a game, host games, or play other games. BYOND Memberships have been around since 2005, their primary focus is to give some kind of income to BYOND. They last for a year. They are optional donations, which gave you benefits such as some webspace to host your files, an avatar on the forum, and unlimited pages (instant messages on BYOND), games can also offer benefits to members. Recently, this was changed a bit. Before, you could create a hub (a webpage to publish your game, on the BYOND website) for free. Now, you have to buy a BYOND Membership to create a hub. This is because the hub is pretty much free advertising for your server, comes with a built-in forum, Medal/achievement tracking, a scoreboard, bug and feature trackers, space for media such as screen shots. I think a membership costs around 23 dollars?

The games, at the moment, are either playable through BYOND's downloadable program. You can either play single player if you have the packaged binary (.dmb file), or you can join multiplayer - these both require the BYOND Pager, a program which gives you access to BYOND's games. However, recently there was a program released which allows programmers to package their game as an EXE - it can be used as either a single player thing, or to join multiplayer games. With this, you don't need to download the BYOND Software, and that's what NEStalgia is doing. The BYOND Developers are also working on a Flash client, so games can be embedded into web pages, or even on phones, without the need for the BYOND software, but the games are still developed in BYOND, and its language. However, the Flash client, will only be a client, I don't think it'll be used to play Single Player games, only join servers.

Speaking of Journalism, we had a 'guild' or group of people on BYOND who would interview the staff, and other people who were active or making some cool games. The archive (and location of future interviews, if they were to happen) is located at http://byondjournalism.seiyria.com/ Would this be a 'reliable source'?

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Hi! I think we're at cross purposes here! I meant I'm not sure if anyones confirmed if 'Huntress' or 'Greatest Adventure' were canon in the New 52 continuity, so I removed the sentence while I looked for a source- clearly some are, but I wasn't sure if they all were? Anyway, any help would be appreciated in sourcing a quote! Let me know if you fancy changing it! Ta! Benny Digital ^{Speak Your Brains} 14:20, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

• The Huntress series has to be part of the New 52 - it's ending directly ties into World's Finest, that's pretty much confirmed by editorial. In 'My Greatest Adventure', it utilizes Batman's New 52 costume. I don't think anyone has come out and said 'This is New 52', but it came out the month? following the New 52, using the new costume. It seems likely, especially because of the rebooted Robotman origin. There's also this DC Editorial post, where some editorial guy said:

"Kevin Maguire dropped by yesterday, and I promised him that I'd try to get everybody here to learn to count to 53. The unofficial fifty-third book, at least from my standpoint, is MY GREATEST ADVENTURE, strong accent on the word "GREATEST." (http://www.dccomics.com/blog/2012/01/25/dc-comics-all-access-joey-cavalieri)

Doesn't exactly mean it's 100% part of the continuity, but it seems quite plausible. What other titles are questionable? || Tako (talk) 19:33, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

• • Nope, I think that ties up my worries mate! Keep up the good work! Benny Digital ^{Speak Your Brains} 07:51, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

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I saw all that you added to the DCU title on the New 52 page, which is great. However, since the rotation is always changing, I feel this can get crowded and "bulky" really fast. I think the different teams would be great to include, but maybe not on the New 52 page. Would there be enough info to add in addition to the creative teams on a DCU page of it's own (since it doesn't have any)? Let me know your thoughts and thanks for all the work you've been doing on the page! -Favre1fan93 (talk) 03:33, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

• Haha, yeah. I felt that it was overkill after I added it all. I think there'll probably be enough information for it's own article, the problem is that the current DC Universe Presents page is only about the magazine published in the UK. That article would need to be split up into a few sections, and enough relevant information about the New 52 title would need to be added. I mean, it wouldn't be difficult, I just don't know anything about the UK Magazine enough to mess with that. || Tako (talk) 03:46, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
  • I don't know much either, but I think that a section could be added to the page under a heading along the lines of "US version" and then a little blurb and then the issues and creative teams that are on the New 52 page. If I have a free moment, I can try sandboxing it to see what it might look like. -Favre1fan93 (talk) 04:07, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
    • I went ahead and did it, it wasn't a big change after all. DC Universe Presents#The New 52. It's pretty empty, but it shows the creative teams. || Tako (talk) 04:23, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
      • Great. I changed the New 52 page back to not having the creative teams and just added a little bit to what you created on the DCU page. Thanks!! -Favre1fan93 (talk) 05:11, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

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Hey. I was just thinking for the titles that were cancelled, since the dates were coming up, that we should keep them in the On Going Titles section until the new title that is replacing them is released. So GI Combat would stay there until 1/16/2013 when Threshold is released. Thoughts on this? Just thinking for readers who are looking to see the titles that are out, technically, GI Combat is still out and available. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 23:22, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

• Eh, it doesn't really matter to me. It's just, as this is the last issue of the book, it's officially a *former* title, but sure. It won't hurt to wait until next month. Feel free to change it. || Tako (talk) 02:32, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

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I provided a statement in the edit notes, and then J Greb endorsed the PROD and gave a more valid rational. What's the issue? || Tako (talk) 17:35, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

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Hey dingleberry, I know if all the fun and excitement of accusing people of wrong doings it's hard to follow the rules, but you're supposed to notify all the users you're accusing, not just me. --Swankytank (talk) 01:15, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

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Blackhawks (DC Comics)

Yep, saw your concern and just responded to it over on the Talk page. I'm confident there will be more than enough material to cover in the new article, and given the growing length of the Blackhawk (DC Comics) page (I'm only about halfway through my rewrite of it), it feels to me like a good place to split the articles. DoctorSivana (talk) 05:22, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

New 52 Director's Cuts

Just a quick question regarding these. Do you know what is different about them to be considered "Director's Cuts"? And are these books considered part of the 52 for the month or just rereleases of the series, so not technically? I think the answer to the second question will help us find the right spot for them, because at the moment, I feel like they should be on the individual book's page, unless they are consider part of the 52 for the month. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 04:32, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Well, from the solicits, they are reprints of the first issue of the story arc, along with scripts, pencils, etc. They're solicited by DC (on their blog) in the specific groups of the New 52. I think it's noteworthy that they're actually labeled '#1' - meaning they're intended to either be one-shots, or possibly a once-in-a-while thing. They're not just simple reprints. According to some funky math I did, for July if you count the two Director's Cuts, you have 52. For August, you have 51, unless you count the DC Universe vs Masters of the Universe mini-series, which is not solicited among the core 52. I'd suggest opening an RFC on it. I just added it there because of the way it was solicited by DC. || Tako (talk) 05:04, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

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Injustice: Gods Among Us

You might want to read the the page on WP:disambiguation more thoroughly. You will note that title based disambiguation is also acceptable for articles which could cause confusion when an individual performs a web search and is directed to the article by title only to discover that it is not what they were looking for. This causes web users to mistrust Wikipedia. A page for both is not required to specify the content in the title. If both pages existed, a separate disambiguation page would be required, not just a title change. The title change is a simple (and small) fix that removes the confusion while waiting for the comic page to be created. I would have no objection to the video game holding the primary page once the comic page and the disambiguation page are created. For now the lack of clarity in the title creates confusion. Krkr8m (talk) 07:53, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

There is no confusion. The article states that it is a game. The comic book is a spin-off of the game. The comic book is mentioned in the article. The non-DAB'd name of the article does not conflict with anything. Start a discussion on the article's talk page. A disambiguation page wouldn't be necessary either. A hatnote would do - if an article on the comic existed.|| Tako (talk) 06:49, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

I created an article for the comic version. Per the page previously discussed "Disambiguation is required whenever, for a given word or phrase on which a reader might search, there is more than one existing Wikipedia article to which that word or phrase might be expected to lead." and "...if an ambiguous term has no primary topic, then that term needs to lead to a disambiguation page." Since neither page should be considered the primary topic, a hatnote is not sufficient disambiguation. A separate disambiguation page will be required. Krkr8m (talk) 07:53, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

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Hey, recently, I was working on a draft in my userspace, which eventually went to AFC and got created, however. While it was in my userspace, there was a discussion in the draft's talk page. Would it make sense to merge the contents/discussion of that page, into the newly created article's talk page? And, would such a merge require a hist merge? Thanks! || Tako (bother me) || 19:16, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Yes, the 'edit history' of the draft talk page is important....you should copy the headers from the article talk page to the draft talk page, have the article talk speedy deleted as 'preparation for page move', and then move the draft talk page to the article talk location. You don't need a merge since there is no real 'content' on the new talk page yet, jest headers, but you'll need an admin to do the deletion. Revent (talk) 19:57, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

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Villains Month/Forever Evil article title idea

Just had this idea. I just made some additions to the page and thought about the article title. What if we moved it to Forever Evil, and then made Villains Month a redirect to Forever Evil#Villains Month titles? We would just need to clean up the lead a bit, but I believe that would work. Thoughts? - Favre1fan93 (talk) 21:24, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Yep, that'd work. Forever Evil is definitely the core thing which we would need to focus on. If it eventually becomes too heavy with the Villains Month plot, we can split that off later. || Tako (bother me) || 21:43, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Sounds good. Will make the move. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 22:13, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

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Butting heads

Okay, thanks for pointing out the explcit text connecting the two Madame Vipers. That is precisely what is needed before you can connect Yukio to the film, or vice versa. I've reverted them both, and I hope you will let me know which article discussion page you want to talk this out in. Without explicit references connecting the two, we cannot say it. The reader has to decide for themselves. Let me know where you want to talk about it. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 03:54, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Earth-Three Alfred

Now that we know who he is, how should we reference how he was known on Prime Earth? Should it be "The Outsider"/"Outsider" or the Outsider, without the double quotes? I feel DC and Johns wanted Outsider to be the characters name, but as we only got it from the tarot cards, I still think it should be with the double quotes. And how Alfred even stated in the last Trinity War part, something like "I am an Outsider to this world", not implying that that is his official name. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 04:28, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

In JL #23, he says: "I am outsider to this world." | "I am THE Outsider."

I think it's safe to call him the Outsider with no extra punctuation; it might be good to note who he actually is, like..."bleh bleh bleh the Outsider, the Earth-3 counterpart of Alfred Pennyworth." in his first mention, if it's not obvious in content and not mentioned earlier. || Tako (bother me) || 05:47, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Okay. I was going to start to try to condense the Trinity War info, and thought using The Outsider would be better than "Society leader" or "the leader" everywhere, before we get to the reveal. But I agree about adding the tag about Earth-Three. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 15:50, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Joker's Daughter

As this comic was beyond readable, do you know if the new character going by this name, is Duela Dent? I couldn't finish it, or cared to, to find out. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 01:12, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Hahaha, her mother refers to her as "Duela" on a near-to-last page; no idea on the last/family name. || Tako (bother me) || 01:16, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Alright, thanks. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 01:29, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Splitting Villains Month

Hey. What are your thoughts on possibly splitting off Villains Month? With the announcement of the Forever Evil: Blight storyline, I feel like all of the normal Forever Evil and tie in info will add a lot to the page, and this info will just bog it down. Or do you feel we need to devote as much attention (ie plot and reception) to all of these official tie in issues? - Favre1fan93 (talk) 23:35, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

The article doesn't seem too bloated right now; the Villains Month stuff seems to take up very little space from my perspective. (Though, the titles table could probably be Expandable and naturally collapsed.) Have all of the relevant pieces of Villains Month plot been added to the Plot sections? Like, the Villains Month stuff is pretty tied to Forever Evil; it'd be difficult to have that level of context in an article by itself without copying a large amount of content from Forever Evil. I'm sure there's a way to effectively split it (when the need will arise), but no real idea right now.|| Tako (bother me) || 00:31, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

How would you propose expanding that table? I also like the idea of making it collapsed. I believe I added all relevant plot points. I was not sure about the Secret Society issue, so I'd like your opinion on that one, and to look over to see if I missed any that you have read. And I understand your point about getting the context on a Villains Month page, without copying most of the Forever Evil stuff. And I fine with holding off too now I guess. The bulk of the Blight info won't come until December anyways. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 00:35, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Er, I didn't mean 'expanding' the table with new information; I mean having it naturally collapsed with that "Expand" button. :p The Secret Society issue is pretty relevant to Forever Evil as a whole, as well as Trinity War. Though, I don't it really needs it's own summary; but it can be used to fill in details where things are unclear. (ie, their motive, why Dick Grayson, etc)

I also believe that when the time comes to put up information and plot for the other Forever Evil miniseries, information from Villains' Month would better fit into those sections - the whole Scarecrow thing, Mayor Penguin, Bane, etc, that's all a lead-up to Forever Evil: Arkham War. The Grodd and Rogues issue fits with the Rogues Rebellion mini series. So, once there is a solid plot for those, it'd be easier to move things around and make it more cohesive. I think, initially, there was too much focus on Villains Month as it's own entity, but it seems like a majority of the titles are just lead-ins and prologue for Forever Evil, and origin stories for everyone else. Villains Month as a whole has no context of it's own, unfortunately. || Tako (bother me) || 00:58, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Oh okay. Sorry for the miscommunication on the table. Totally fine with collapsing it. The infobox can probably be collapsed as well. That can be done in the next few Wednesdays when the tie-ins start coming out. (Never mind. Just saw your edit.) Same feeling with Secret Society. It had a lot of info, but I didn't really know where to put it. I also agree with moving the Villains Month plots to their respective series, because they are just really lead ins, and your views on how we perceived the month initially.

While we're on the topic, whenever I can find a decent amount of time, I wanted to go through Trinity War again and comb through all of the plot and lead up info. I would appreciate the help if you would be interested/available. Since it is essentially a prologue to Forever Evil, and was never promoted as such, there may be storylines that didn't really apply to the lead up, and ones we missed that did. Even the Secret Society issue could be considered "lead-up" even though it was published after the event. Let me know. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 01:24, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Hahaha, I'm pretty sure none of what we considered to be relevant to Trinity War actually ended up being relevant to it's main plot or the aftermath/Forever Evil. I'd be up for cleaning it up, but I only really have time during weekends now (and during school/work sometimes). I think a bulk of it can really be moved to the Justice League as reasons of why the JLA was formed (David Graves, Superman/Wonder Woman) with a history of new/potential recruits (Atom, Deadman). Some of it can be considered for a potential Trinity of Sin article, etc. Unfortunately, the entire JL article is pretty heavy, and there's no possible way to split it up. (I did have an issue with the mass amount of Infoboxes there...) || Tako (bother me) || 01:58, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

I know right? But in our defense, they did a pretty good job of covering up its true purpose until Johns revealed it. And same timewise for me. I'm very busy during the week with school/work as well, so I can't tackle big projects. A possibility for Trinity War would be to take some of the info we have now, but put it under a statement that says that was marketed as such, because we technically aren't wrong in what we did. And the the accurate info could be as is. For the Justice League page, I don't even know with that. On your mention, I agree that some of the lead up info could go under that section, but that page is a mix of being about the team (which it should be) and the different titles published under the JL/JLA name (which should be broken out). That is something to possibly bring up for discussion and the project page. So many infoboxes! - Favre1fan93 (talk) 02:55, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Two quick things

First, for Batman Eternal, I don't know about that. The USA Today source does not give good indication either way, but I would be inclined to keep it in "Other titles" as it has a set number of issues, as opposed to opened ended with normal ongoing series. Second, Phantom Stranger this week had the Forever Evil banner on the cover, even though it was not solicited as a tie in. I have not read it yet (getting around to it), but do you feel we should make a notation of it in the Blight area, that PS 12-13 (and presumably Pandora 4-5 and Constantine 7-8) act as prelude to the Blight event? I'll try to find a source or review for those titles to see if my thinking can be validated. Thanks. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 19:19, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Forever Evil had like a 2 panel reference in PS. (Ultraman's eclipse was mentioned). It could fit as a prelude, sure - you can use this as a source; DeMatteis says: "PS #12 picks up right after that [referencing him trying to save Dr. Light and being erased from existance]—and begins a journey that leads the Stranger straight into the heart of the Forever Evil: Blight arc."

I figured as much. I'm going to hopefully start a mass edit on the page soon, for plot and reviews of Arkham War and then this info. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 20:37, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Also, Bethany Snow and Channel 52 appeared in the first season two episode of Arrow. Will be on the look out for a source for that. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 19:54, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Also, gosh, who would have thought Bethany Snow would have become such a relevant character after her Teen Titans appearance in the 1980s...lol. || Tako (bother me) || 20:12, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Really? I thought she was a new character created for that back up feature. Definitely interesting though, and hopefully someone comments on it so it can be used. But I do believe her involvement in the show is based on the New 52 backup, as she is a reporter there. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 20:37, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Missing Jan 2014 solicits

Reading Newsarama's "What We've Learned" article, they pointed out that Katana, Vibe and Superman Unchained did not have solicits for this month. They felt that that probably meant Katana and Vibe are done in December and Unchained needed a month off. Just wanted you to know if you didn't already, to be on the look out as you always are, to see what the outcome is. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 05:55, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! - Favre1fan93 (talk) 16:18, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Teen Titans and Forever Evil

Hi Tako. Have you read Teen Titans 24 yet? I'm just wondering on your thoughts on it actually being a tie-in to Forever Evil, besides the fact that the team is in the timestream. Looking at the solicits again, and the fact that it does not have "Forever Evil" on the cover, I don't think this issue is. Their solicit is: "As Forever Evil spreads across the world, where have the Teen Titans gone? Find out when they are and why the Titans definitely aren’t together!", but it is not prefaced with "A “Forever Evil” tie-in!" as the Justice League books and Suicide Squad were. I personally only think the Teen Titans stuff is self contained for that book, just being an effect of Forever Evil. Just wondering to know what has to be included when I do my plot and review editing later. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 20:06, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

As TT #24 doesn't really do much aside from pick up from Forever Evil #2, I'd say...include a brief summary of TT #24 (tossed around time, fight versions of self from different time periods or alternate timelines)...and then wait for TT #25. 25 is actually solicited as a "A FOREVER EVIL tie-in!"; tho I'm pretty sure they were both solicited in the Forever Evil group (well, in a group with the rest of the FE titles). But, since #24 apparently had no actual relevance to the on-goings of Forever Evil, I really don't know about the inclusion of a review. || Tako (bother me) || 20:39, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

My thoughts as well. I won't do a review, partially because none of the three sites have one yet, and I'll hold off on the plot until 25 comes out. At that point, it can be reevaluated if they should even be mentioned on the page, or only possibly in a sentence like "These issues were solicited as part of the event, but did not contribute to the story" or whatever. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 00:47, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

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Format Opinion

On Forever Evil, do you feel it is best to keep the tie-in book sections as individual headings, or as I have kept them using the ";" to make them bold, but not their own heading? I don't want to revert, again, if I'm the one who might be in error. I just don't feel there is a need to have them individually made headers. Thanks. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 04:49, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Honestly, I'm fine with either one. I think that having all the tie-in sections being headings does make the TOC look awful and stretched out; but it does make editing individual sections easier, especially with the individual tie-in plots being almost guaranteed to get bloated at some point. I believe an IP editor used that as his rationale for the headings. So, with headings, you sacrifice a neat TOC but generally faster editing for short sections. With psuedo-headings (that's apparently what Wikipedia calls the usage of ";"), you get a neat TOC but you have to edit a larger section which might take a while to load, and submit, etc. There is a workaround though - using template:TOC limit - which I've just demonstrated at User:Takuy/sandbox1 (also with proper title/arc formatting, which the latest editor seemingly forgot). That's keeps the TOC neat, and the gives editable sub-sections. They have a header, they just don't appear in the table of contents. It's up to you if you want to go for that, it might or might not make both sides happy. || Tako (bother me) || 05:26, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Yeah that was my same rationale - an expanded TOC that didn't need to be. I'll try implementing the limit and see how that goes. Thanks as always. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 06:22, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Image opinion

I was wondering if you could give your opinion on an image I am questioning adding. Could you let me know which image you feel represents the Batman: Arkham page better: the one currently on the page, or this one at the top of the article? The one on the page now is more neutral, thus applying generally, but the one in the article, I feel, is a better representation of the main games, as it incorporates the design used by each. Thanks. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 23:39, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Wikibreak

Hey Tako. Just wanted you to know I'm taking a wikibreak. Had an issue with my laptop so I took it as a sign to not find ways to get on here and take a break. I should be back before the new year, if not, definitely by the end of January. If you can, can you just keep an eye on the Forever Evil page? Thanks. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 02:43, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your edits to the list of publications page. Been thinking maybe we should subsection the "Publication history" on The New 52 page. Might make it flow better, instead of one large chunk of info. Also, IGN's article about Animal Man stated March 2014 solicits are coming out next week hopefully. I still have limited wiki access, so I'll help where I can, when I can. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 19:02, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

How do you suggest we section it? I've had the idea for a while to, but I haven't come to any conclusion for the best way to do it. Month/years? Waves?

also, I think New 52 solicits are coming out tomorrow actually. I already know two surprises for it, Suicide Squad: Amanda Waller #1, and Batman and Aquaman #29 - I'd tell you how I know this, but talk pages are too public for my snoopy ways. ;) || Tako (bother me) || 00:13, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Ooh secret ways of getting info! I like it haha. And those are definitely surprises. Is the Amanda Waller title ongoing or limited? And as for the publication headings, I was hoping to make them informative and creative. Like "Moving away from waves" or "Expanding the universe", the latter more for like the the start of the Forever Evil info. If not, maybe years like "Year X (201X): Description". I'm open to different ideas, but just looking today made me realize it. -Favre1fan93 (talk) 00:31, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Just a one-shot, like Batman: Joker's Daughter, and Superman: Lois Lane. and the description-like ones could work. I've turned one of my sandboxes into a test area for it, if you'd care to throw around some ideas there. || Tako (bother me) || 00:55, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Awesome. I think I remember reading there was going to be a third one-shot. I like that choice. As to the headings, I like what you've started. As I said, I'm on limited computer access (currently doing this from an old iPad which sucks) so when I get the chance I'll take a stab at it. And will continue relaying thoughts, ideas here until I'm back normally. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 01:05, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Also, once the new draft space goes live, I want to try to create the Futures End article, as, based on rumors, the September 2014 event will be Five Years later, which can fit on that page like Villains Month on Forever Evil. It will be good to have most of that done, so once that is announced, or we get closer to May, the article can be made. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 03:13, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

I think we have made some really good progress on the List of publications page. I was thinking, that if we just clean up/add a bit more, we might be able to nominate it for a Featured List. What do you think? Also, my online presence may be picking up in the next few days as an FYI. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 01:02, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Hey, sorry I haven't been very active recently. work and school and things, y'know. I think it might be ready to go FL. (maybe just needs some more minor clean-up) and, I'm pretty sure the Collected Editions table should have citations, but that'd be pretty annoying to do, as DC's Collected Editions solicits aren't always completely accurate, and citing Amazon entry for each book would be dumb. || Tako (bother me) || 21:24, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

No worries. I totally feel you. Yes very minor clean up and we should be good. I think we can source the collected editions from DC's own site, as I believe they update the info after it has released if it changed from the solicits. That's what I'm going to be looking into the next few days. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 21:43, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Hey quick update. I'm sure you are busy off wiki with the holidays approaching, but I managed to start getting the collected editions table ready. Adding the sources are tedious, but it helps me double check all the info, which I have been correcting as I go. With that, when ever you get the chance, can you investigate something for me? I was double checking all the volumes for the New 52 books, and OMAC was the only one I could not discern which volume it was. Based on Wikipedia articles and Comic Vine, I know that it is either Volume 2 or Volume 3. If you could find out which one it definitely is, based on your own knowledge or looking elsewhere, that'd be great. And as always, whenever you get back, if I haven't finished the table, help would be great! Have a great holiday and see you in 2014! - Favre1fan93 (talk) 00:51, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the holiday wishes - you have a great one too! Well, there are 4 volumes. There was a volume in 1974, 1991, 2006, and 2011. The indicia‎/copyright info for the 1974 and 2006 books just say "OMAC". 1991's limited series inner-title page said "OMAC \ One Man Army Corps", and I'm not sure about 2011, because I read that digitally. However, DC's website lists it as O.M.A.C. - which would make it unique, but other sites list it as just OMAC. That'd basically be Volume 3. I'll see if I can find a scan of the page with the indicia on it though, that would be pretty conclusive. || Tako (bother me) || 04:46, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Okay thanks. If you can't find it, I think Volume 3 would be acceptable. Everything else that were not new series to the New 52, were pretty much easy to find/figure out. One thing I found interesting in doing this, was that even though JLI has had titles over the years, they've been part of other series (ie JL became JLI for a chunk of issues), so the New 52 one was only Volume 2. Oh maybe another one if you can/able to: Hawk and Dove. Would it technically be different if it is Hawk and Dove vs. Hawk & Dove? - Favre1fan93 (talk) 05:05, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Alright, I just checked on a print scan of #2 - It says "O.M.A.C. 2. December, 2011", so I'd go with volume 1 for that. For JLI, I'd actually go with Volume 3 with that. I've checked the indicia for the JL -> JLI -> JLA series, and the JLE -> JLI series. The JLI titled issues all read "Justice League International". JLI never started as it's own thing and always retitled from something else until the New 52 series. For Hawk and Dove - 5 series total, the indicia of the first series reads "The Hawk and the Dove", while the four series after that read "Hawk and Dove" - it's just "and" not "&" in that. So, I'd say that is volume 4. Basically, I'm just going by whatever the copyright information says. || Tako (bother me) || 05:30, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for all the research. I actually realized I didn't write the JLI one correctly and did have it as Volume 3. That's fine for the other two. I'll make notes of that. The volumes are the only thing that I think are troublesome from here on out, but I don't think it is something that will hold back a FL nom. I'll do my best with what I have, and maybe down the road, anything with a high volume number can get a double check beyond what I did (ie Blue Beetle, which is at Volume 8 supposedly). But I think this is more than enough for now. I'm just going to get the sources together for the CEs and then try to nominate the page, unless there is anything else you want to do/add before that. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 05:50, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

No problem. I think we might be able to cut-back on the CE sources a bit, actually. Since the CE solicits are released in DC's monthly solicits, we might be able to use that for collections that haven't changed between then and now. I'll look through that if I have time tomorrow. || Tako (bother me) || 05:54, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Great thanks. The only issue I had with that is I felt most changed between solicits and actual release, but we may be able to condense some. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 17:44, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Superman/Wonder Woman

The correct solution is indeed not to use {{As of}}. That template is only for statements related to the time they are made in. If something is antedated or postdated, we should not use that template. I was about to implement that solution, when I saw you had already come to the same conclusion. 23:37, 8 December 2013 (UTC)Debresser (talk)

Avoiding edit war

Hey Takuy, I missed the line from the infobox about John Hurt when I reverted before, but am scared to open back the page. Is it allowed? At the moment it introduces the actors in real world terms, lists Hurt between 8 and 9, and then says "also Hurt!" in a bit of text after.Zythe (talk) 17:58, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Dummy edit?

Dummy edit? How old are you? Mind your own business dude. - TreCoolGuy

Dummy as in not actually changing something on the page (ie replicating something real) not meaning stupid. And no need for the personal attack Tre. You should know (once again) that a source like that is not going to fly here. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 04:14, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

List of The New 52 publications FL candidate

Hey Tako. I got it done! Those Collected Editions man. Whew. Letting you know that I've nominated it, with you as a nominator. You can add it to your watchlist if you'd like. Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of The New 52 publications/archive1 - Favre1fan93 (talk) 04:27, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Awesome, dude, great job. I haven't gotten around to looking into the solicit merging yet, noticed some discrepancies between DC's site and Amazon as well, hopefully will have some free time between Sunday and New Years to look over all of that. I definitely think it's at a point where the content lines up with the sources, so, it's good enough for FL hopefully. || Tako (bother me) || 05:53, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

I haven't either, but from what I can tell, any CE that has released, or is releasing very soon, from DC's site is accurate, and that the solicits to cover these that have released will either have the wrong content info, non-specific date, or no title for the collection. Future titles I was able to use two sources, but then again, I still had issues with three CEs: Vibe Vol. 1 was nowhere to be seen on DC's site, so I had to use the old solicit; Action Comics Vol. 4 gave me a month and title, but the content was the same as Vol. 3; and The Culling: Rise of the Ravagers was also no where to be seen on DC's site, but I know it exists from Comic Vine and Amazon. But yes, I do agree that it should be good enough to get the nom, and then we can work on condensing if we can. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 15:50, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the ISBN edits. Did not even consider how to do that, but obviously you figured something out. Also, just wanted you to know that from 12/30 to 1/6 I will be on a wikibreak for a vacation. This one was planned versus my previous one just coming about due to some unplanned circumstances. Anyways, I won't be able to address anything in the review until I get back, so I hope you would not mind addressing anything urgent if need be. I will be posting in the review that I will be on wikibreak and that I won't be able to address anything until I get back, that you can address needs in the interim (if not just remove that from my statement). Thanks so much Tako. Have a great New Year if you are doing anything. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 18:07, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Different Aquaman picture

Just wanting to know what you meant "improperly licensed", I thought I answered the recommendations when I uploaded it. Also I think there is some need to change Aquaman picture. The one he has now makes him look dated to the info box pictures used for Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, and the Green Arrow (just making a small list). Any way I just thought the old picture didn't do Aquaman enough justice. So can my picture be put back if I license it properly? Teridax122 (talk) 09:54, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) As the image is a comic book cover, it is NOT public domain. Comic book covers have copy rights, and need proper licencing. Please look to the infobox image on the Forever Evil page as an example to see how a comic cover needs to be licensed. But as with Tako, I see no need for an update to the Aquaman image. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 18:15, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Bluebird and the Batman Navbox

Hi there! I was the one who added Bluebird to the Batman Navbox, and I noticed you recently removed that callsign. It's true that it's only been used in one issue, but I don't understand how that makes it any less legitimate, especially since there are multiple media references to her by that name. I'm I'm not gearing up for an edit war or anything, and I'll probably just leave it as is since she still appears in the box as Harper Row - I was just hoping for some more insight on what your motivation for removing it was. I'm still pretty unexperienced and make lots of mistakes, so I'd like to learn everything I can from more senior Wikipedians! TI. Gracchus (talk) 21:47, 21 February 2014 (UTC)