Talk:Indian rhinoceros
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editpicture? --Tothebarricades.tk 23:28, 10 Jul 2004 (UTC)
picture??
editwill add very soon..... waiting for my photos to be scanned....
- Thanks, there is a picture on the article linked here in the time being [1]
- Why are there two pics, almost identical, in the "Description" section? 207.237.198.152 (talk) 04:57, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Well
editIm not sure if any one knows this, but while reading this I not fine its role in the food chain, if some one could point out it to me i would be it would be much appreciated.
It plays the same role as other ungulates in its habitat.
Inaccurancy
editplease give their count —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.193.164.111 (talk) 01:11, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
"With size equal that of the white rhino in Africa, it is the second largest land animal, after the elephants."
There are three species of elephants, all bigger, so the Indian rhino has a shared fourth place, together with the white rhino. JAL 82.92.15.150 13:54, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
what now
edit"The rhino once inhabited areas from Pakistan to Burmese and may have even roamed Myanmar and China. "
Burmese is supposed to be Myanmar but then it has even roamed Myanmar so this means Burma and not Burmese?
Sancassania 17:48 GMT 22.11.2006
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editReferences
edit- {{IUCN2006|assessors=Asian Rhino Specialist Group|year=1996|id=19496|title=Rhinoceros unicornis|downloaded=11 May 2006}} Listed as Endangered (EN B1+2cde v2.3)
External links
edit- Indian Rhino page at International Rhino Foundation website
- Greater Indian Rhinoceros page at TheBigZoo.com
- Indian Rhino page at AnimalInfo.org
- Indian Rhino page at AmericaZoo.com
- Indian Rhinoceros page at nature.ca
- Indian Rhinoceros page at UltimateUngulate.com
- Short narrated video about the Indian Rhinoceros
- http://www.arkive.org/species/GES/mammals/Rhinoceros_unicornis/more_info.html
- Asian Rhino Foundation
- Yahoo Group on: IndianRhinos • A campaign to save the Indian Rhinos!!! – Please join us !
Where is rhino with gaur
editThis is a sentence from the gaur article: "A fight has been reported between a male Indian rhino and a bull gaur, reflecting the strength and courage of the gaur." Can anyone tell me where in the world do rhino and gaur share habitat? As far as I know, rhino only lives in Kaziranga, india, where the gaur is absent. Answer: I heard that a gaur once injured an Indian rhino in the San Diego Wild Animal Park. I believe that the Indian rhino was badly hurt. Is the Indian rhino in the picture at the Toronto Zoo Patrick, the first Indian rhino born alive in the Western Hemisphere, in 1974 at the Washington D.C. Zoo? One was born dead in the Milwaukee County Zoo I think in 1967.
Error?
edit"it is the fourth-largest land animal, after the three elephant species" and where are the giraffes in this story? Unless the article meant the fourth-heaviest.
Can anyone answer me?
Large means not just height, but mass. Giraffes are "tall", but not "large". Large animals include hippos, rhinos, and elephants. - lucasuvu March 12, 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.105.204.243 (talk) 06:48, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Rhino with gaur
editIndian rhinos and gaur both live in Royal Chitwan in Nepal, to answer the above question.
105 miles per hour?
editIsn't that figure a bit ludicrous? Also, shouldn't it be in kilometers per hour? In any case, it should require a source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.100.154.81 (talk) 11:32, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
- Good catch! The page was just temporarily vandalized it looks like. Ideally it should be in both kph and mph. I'll try to find a source at some point today! --JayHenry (talk) 14:43, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Population figures
editDoes anybody insist to keep this table in the text ?? I acknowledge that somebody has laboriously entered all the figures. But it is incomplete and poorly referenced. Therefore, I place it here for the time being. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 15:44, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
Population trend since 1910 Year Total India Nepal 1910 100 1952 350 300 50 1958 700 400 300 1963 600 1964 625 440 185 1966 740 575 165 1968 680 1971 630 1983 1000 1984 1500 1986 1711 1334 377 1987 1700 1990 1700 1994 1900 1995 2135 1600 535 1997 2095 1998 2100 2000 2500 2002 2500 2005 2400
Ways to Kill
editIs it really objectively a good thing to have on the article? I was a bit astounded to see it there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.249.29.217 (talk) 02:15, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
- It is an odd entry in the article, and I don't feel that it belongs in this encyclopedia. For reference, it was added on December 7, 2010 by BhagyaMani (talk · contribs): [2]. — Myasuda (talk) 13:16, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Population
editPopulation increased by 250
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-04-09/flora-fauna/31312338_1_rhinos-kaziranga-national-park-orang — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.163.207.31 (talk) 21:41, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
Before there were only 600 rhinos left but due to the active effort of Nepal Government, now there are 3500 rhinos globally l! Theprashant1218 (talk) 14:33, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
Rhinoceros fight image
editThe image File:RHINOCEROS FIGHT AT BARODA from page 299 of "Cyclopedia universal history - embracing the most complete and recent presentation of the subject in two principal parts or divisions of more than six thousand pages" (1895) (14596672017).jpg is not of Indian rhinoceros as the rhinos in the drawing have two horns. It should be removed User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 20:52, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
- I think it is a misinterpretation of Indian Rhino because African Rhino has no body skin folds and Sumatran Rhino has skin folds but it is a small animal in size. John Clark Ridpath had drawn this art in 1895, it is supposed to be based on folk tales and he was not a spectators of the game.
P@rik$hit 06:30, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
- I think it is a misinterpretation of Indian Rhino because African Rhino has no body skin folds and Sumatran Rhino has skin folds but it is a small animal in size. John Clark Ridpath had drawn this art in 1895, it is supposed to be based on folk tales and he was not a spectators of the game.
- The original caption to this drawing credits it to Émile Bayard who may not have seen an Indian rhino either. I suggest to move this to the gallery of works by Bayard. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 17:02, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
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The Indian rhinoceros (Rhinoceros unicornis) is a species of rhinoceros that once ranged across the entire northern part of the Indian subcontinent. As a result of habitat destruction and climatic changes, its range was gradually reduced such that, by the 19th century, it survived only in southern Nepal, northern Uttar Pradesh, northern Bihar, northern West Bengal, and in the Brahmaputra Valley in Assam. The species's range has since shrunk further, and its habitat is surrounded by human-dominated landscapes, so that in many areas, it occurs in cultivated areas, pastures, and secondary forests. It is currently listed as a vulnerable species on the IUCN Red List. This adult male Indian rhinoceros was photographed on the banks of the Gandaki River in Nepal. Photograph credit: Charles James Sharp
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Reviewer: Chiswick Chap (talk · contribs) 15:19, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
Comments
edit- 'Taxonomy' says 'The Indian rhinoceros is monotypic'. I think you should say "species", as the Javan rhino is in the same genus... readers may be unfamiliar with the concept of a "monotypic species" as we generally think of a species as, um, one thing.
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- 'Etymology' needs to say how Greek "ris" (should be "rhis" actually) can turn into "rhino" ... probably need to give the genitive case for clarity.
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- 'Evolution' is quite rightly summarized with a "main" link, but the cladogram should be repeated in this article (with its source).
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- Wouldn't the weights be more readable in tonnes, rather than kilos and pounds? (Tonnes have the advantage of coming in smaller numbers, and both metric and imperial varieties are almost the same, so they really don't need the clutter of conversion).
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- The current "precision" of weights is a bit off anyway: 1,599 – 1,608 kg would mean "all cows have the identical weight, within +/- 4.5 kg?! Sounds unlikely.
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- Populations would be more readable if sorted chronologically.
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- I don't think we need to advertise the "signature 2021 report, State of the Rhino", nor to give the acronym for the International Rhino Foundation.
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- 'Ecology' needs to wikilink megaherbivore somewhere. That would go well with the "group of four tigers ... killed a ... male", with the link that megaherbivores are (Arnie eat your heart out) hard to kill, and reported kills are rare.
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- 'Threats': not sure about the wording of "has caused large death of".
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- 'Conservation': suggest abbreviate to 'R. unicornis' as already introduced. Or just say Indian rhino, or indeed "it has".
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- 'Reintroduction' - would be helpful to add those to the range map. And maybe merge the short paragraphs.
- I don't know how to make/edit maps.
- 'In captivity': again, merge short paras.
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- 'Cultural': amazing, I'd never noticed it on the Pashupati seal. Would certainly be worth including the image.
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Images
edit- The pics in 'Europe' overrun into the reflist. Suggest using a gallery to organise them horizontally. Both of them could do with dates in their captions, too.
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- The graph 'Population trend since 1910' indicates no source either here or on Commons? It's also gruesomely out of date compared to the figures at the top of 'Populations'. We probably need to redraw the thing using new data, and cite it.
- Removed it
- Very wise, it probably needs to be deleted from Commons.
- Removed it
- All the images other than the graph are plausibly licensed on Commons.
- Noted
Sources
edit- Please move the Portals box away from the refs (or ditch it altogether, it's really hard to see why anybody would move to a portal when they've already arrived at the animal article they want).
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- Linnaeus seems to have lumped all the rhinoceroses into one species in [2], if my Latin is serving me correctly? This probably needs to be stated in the text. Actually it'd be nice to provide a snippet of his description, it's in very basic zoological Latin.
- I think you're wrong; that's not what Google translate stated.
- Ah, indeed. But he says '[Rhinoceros] unicornis ... cornu unico conico ... Habitat in Africa, India', and '[Rhinoceros] bicornis ... cornibus duobus cuneiformibus ... Habitat in India'. i.e. there are 2 species in India, one of them the African species, and the Indian species has two "wedge-shaped" horns, unlike the one "conical" horn of the African species. Extraordinary! This does I think need to be stated in the article. But I suppose we can argue that he was right about R. unicornis and a bit muddled about R. bicornis ...
- I think you're wrong; that's not what Google translate stated.
- Why do we have a 2010 Wildlife Watch Group book in 'Further reading'?
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- '"Great Indian rhinoceros (Rhinoceros unicornis)". ECOS Environmental Conservation Online System.' is a dead link.
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- 'Nepal Rhino Conservation' is a dead link.
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- 'Indian Rhinoceros page at nature.ca' just goes to the top of the website.
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- Why do we need a 2018 BBC 'Rhino census' link down here?
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- Why do we need a 2007 archive of an Arkive page?
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- [22] Jerdon is missing its page number(s).
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- What is "Karmakar,DHNS" in [25]? If it's an honorific, suggest we ditch it. Whatever it is, it's oddly formatted.
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- [31] is missing a page number, which seems to be p.38.
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- All the source links I followed were as indicated and clearly relevant to the claims made.
- Noted
Summary
editThat's about it from me. Looking good, just a few minor things that should be quick to fix.
- I think I'm now done. 20 upper (talk) 19:59, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- Almost there. Linnaeus (above) is actually a good deal more curious than I thought.
Did you know nomination
edit- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Bruxton talk 19:49, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
- ... that the Indian rhinoceros was sent as a gift from Manuel I of Portugal to Pope Leo X in 1515; the rhino later died in a shipwreck and was immortalised as Dürer's Rhinoceros? Source: https://brill.com/downloadpdf/journals/btd/43/1/article-p39_2.pdf
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Created by 20 upper (talk). Self-nominated at 04:50, 13 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Indian rhinoceros; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- GA status is new enough
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- The source quoted to support the hook is reliable
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- QPQ exempt
- @Marshelec: This is my first nomination. 20 upper (talk) 22:10, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- I checked out the very high Earwig score and the first match attributes to Wikipedia, the second is a July 2017 blog which seems to copy elements from the July 2017 version of our article. Bruxton (talk) 19:49, 20 February 2024 (UTC)