Talk:WNWO-TV
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editI'm moving this article to WNWO in order to merge it with soon-to-be-edited information about the television station, an NBC affiliate in Toledo, Ohio. -- SwissCelt 02:55, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
- Bit late on this one, but this article needs to stay at WNWO-TV as those are the FCC assigned call letters. See WP:NC#Broadcasting for more info. —A 07:48, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
- Fair enough, but I should say in my defense that at the time of the move (July, 2005) the article was at WNWO Tower, and dealt only with the structure that housed the broadcasting antenna. So the move wasn't from WNWO to WNWO-TV and back to WNWO, but from WNWO Tower to WNWO (as of July, 2005) to WNWO-TV (as of December, 2005). I agree that the article should remain at WNWO-TV, as that is now the standard. (I'm going to check for double redirects now, while I'm at it.) -- SwissCelt 02:15, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- Sounds good, I'm glad some people understand the reason behind having a naming convention. —A 02:24, 3 February 2006 (UTC)==Fair use rationale for Image:24now.jpg==
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newscaster?
editWhat happened to Shenikwa Stratford? Does anyone know where she is? I sure miss her? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.241.141.189 (talk) 21:47, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
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Nominator: Sammi Brie (talk · contribs) 02:41, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: Rollinginhisgrave (talk · contribs) 17:48, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
I'll start this review over the next few days. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 17:48, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
General comments
editAs this is the first TV GA review I'm undertaking, I'll go about it in a more dribs and drabs style than usual; hope this is okay, it can be reviewed as I go or all at once at the end. Thanks for bringing this to GA, as you both will have heard many times. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 06:13, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
Finishing up. Clearly exceptional article, sorry for the time the review took as I've been trying to refer back to previous GA reviews of your work to get insight into possible fixes. Some questions/quibbles below, size of lede and some questions about ref #63 are all that are outstanding. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 02:47, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Rollinginhisgrave: All remaining outstanding items addressed, including all copy items (even if not mentioned here). Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:27, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thankyou Sammi, sorry this was a bit protracted and nitpicky at times. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 03:28, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
Prose/content
editLede
edit- The lede is a too long, it should be around 2-3 paragraphs for the article's word count. I'll leave looking at this until the end since it'll be trimmed (unless there's a good reason I'm missing)
- I've reorganized the lede into three paragraphs and trimmed them down. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:27, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
WDHO-TV
editand consequent shifts in multiple alignments
: What are alignments?- That should read allotments. Fixing. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:41, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
which reimbursed the two firms a total of $17,200 in expenses incurred in their applicants
->which reimbursed the two firms $17,200 for expenses incurred in their applications
? I might be misunderstanding- Nope
on the air
idiom. I'm not sure if there's a better alternative, although I'm sure "broadcast" would feature somewhere within.- This phrasing is so common that it remains encyclopedic, in my estimation.
- I agree. I do have more of a concern with
WNWO's newscasts finally found something of a stride
- I agree. I do have more of a concern with
at the same time deferring
->and to defer
In 1971, Overmyer pledged the stock of WDHO's license subsidiary
What is the licence subsidiary?- Reworded
and sought control
present tense?- You're misreading the sentence; it's right. Here it is without the big appositive:
FNBB then sued Overmyer on May 7, 1974, ... and sought control of 249 shares.
- You're misreading the sentence; it's right. Here it is without the big appositive:
- I did see that reading. The issue I had was the "and" implies distinction they didn't sue them and seek control, they sued them to seek control. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 22:20, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
The first bankruptcy proceeding for WDHO was dismissed in 1980; the same day the SDNY denied an appeal by Overmyer, on February 6, 1981, WDHO filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy again, this time in Cleveland, Ohio.
Too wordywhich regarded the takeover as proper and part of their debt collection
This feels like repetition and obvious given we already know they sued for control of shares as collateral for defunct loans.FNBB sold WDHO to Toledo Television Investors, Ltd. (TTI) for $19.6 million in June 1985;[55] TTI was owned by I. Martin Pompadur and Ralph Becker, both of New York.
Is this semicolon replacing a conjunction?- It joins two separate sentences, though a ", and" would not fit. Do you feel like a split is merited, Rollinginhisgrave? Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:34, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- I think that would reduce ambiguity. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 03:59, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Done — also handled the "stride" item. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:02, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- I think that would reduce ambiguity. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 03:59, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
Sources
edit- Ref #3
- Ref #22
- Ref #25: Can you attach a quote supporting the $5-6 million figure?
- It's not in there at all. Removing that figure and revising the citation to cover another appropriate page. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:27, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Ref #51
- Ref #63
- This contradicts #22 as it says the double-wide was not repossessed.
- It's not clear in the source if the cheering was literal or figurative.
- Really odd contradiction on the first one. I can't really change the second given what was said by the source. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:27, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Ref #76
- Ref #80
- Ref #112
- Ref #118
Other
edit- Stable
- NPOV
- Images : update the purpose of use for 2011-2014 file
- It's fair use and should honestly not have been kept. I thought it'd have been below TOO, but its shiny depiction hurts that. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:27, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- OR
- COPYVIO Earwig 23.7%, mainly long names of committees
- CRIT 3: Broad, not too detailed.
Suggestions
editThe bank was immediately desirous to sell WDHO-TV.
->The bank immediately wanted to sell WDHO-TV.
- Items to here addressed. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 20:57, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 06:13, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
Did you know nomination
edit
- ... that a judge compared the bankruptcy fraud of an Ohio TV station to a 1601 English court case? Source: https://www.genealogybank.com/newspaper-clippings/empire-lost-18/vupjcwmlwrinnuzflmrdduzifjujxpyg_ip-10-166-46-146_1711427463288 + https://www.genealogybank.com/newspaper-clippings/empire-lost/wtmwguindgitiqxofwjteplubqvmpxag_ip-10-166-46-106_1711427503805
- ALT1: ... that the news department of an Ohio TV station operated for a time from a double-wide trailer parked next to the studios? Source: https://www.genealogybank.com/newspaper-clippings/wdho-moves-news-room-main-studio-building/nrfswemeikljgqhjrvodozsjokirzved_ip-10-166-46-113_1723172746346
- ALT2: ... that an editor at an Ohio TV station told of having "a front-row seat to a train wreck"? Source: https://www.genealogybank.com/newspaper-clippings/24/eirnxkhmfsnvefqjuytoindbipygbpak_ip-10-166-46-179_1711427913419
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Marmelada de Santa Luzia
- Comment: Toledo becomes the last Top-100 media market in the US to get its first broadcasting DYK!
Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:06, 9 August 2024 (UTC).
- Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:23, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Looks good – the only thing is I believe there needs to be a citation directly after the sentences assignment editor Matt Zaleski later told The Blade, "That's when my reaction was, 'My God, I've got a front-row seat to a train wreck.'"
and During this time, the news department operated out of a leased double-wide trailer parked next to the studio building, which continued for three years (from 1977 to 1980).
as they're the hooks. Otherwise fine. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:49, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: Fixed (they can be removed after DYK, as they are to the very next citation). Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 15:51, 9 August 2024 (UTC)