Qwirkle

It’s good to see you back

We need quality hard-right-wing editors like yourself. Welcome back. — Jacona (talk) 19:53, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Hmmm. I was going to just let this die a natural death, but…

First, I hope you noticed that some people might see this as painting a target on a fellow wikipedian’s back.

Next, the fact that someone challenges left-wing bullshit on Wikipedia is hardly evidence they are “hard-right-wing;” it may be just that they recognize that the demographics of Wikipedia mean that, say, Trumpist slush is dealt with quickly, but that nonsense that that average wikitor sees as comfortably in their own personal overton window can linger unchecked. Can you name the “right-wing” equivalent of, say, Cirt?

Qwirkle (talk) 21:51, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

WP:DYKCRIT

An article cannot be on the main page if it has a maintenance tag. If you feel the tag is needed the article will have to be pulled. I suggest you post at errors and an admin will remove the article from the DYK set. Lightburst (talk) 04:42, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

No, actually. The Do You Kare Kriteria specifies that articles should not deserve tags, a very different thing.

I will get it sorted. It is a rule at the top of WP:DYKCRIT.

Articles should not have any maintenance tags, and should look presentable.

So since the tag is there the article must be pulled. Unfortunate for the author. Lightburst (talk) 05:24, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

But so much nicer for the reader. Qwirkle (talk) 05:26, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Actually, I think that applies to articles at the time of nomination. Articles that are tagged while they are on the Main Page do not, AFAIK, have to be pulled unless it's something like copyvio or a serious BLP issue ... otherwise a disruptively minded griefer-type "editor" could just find a reason to tag each and every article on DYK with some banner and sit back and enjoy the ensuing chaos. Daniel Case (talk) 05:27, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Daniel Case I expect it will be pulled sometime while you are sleeping. I have seen it many times. I had hoped that Qwirkle would allow the run, since the tag is subjective. Lightburst (talk) 05:31, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

”Should not deserve,” while subjective, would obviously apply across the time the article is highlighted on the main page.Qwirkle (talk) 05:32, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

I have asked the tagging editor to come back and explain themselves. Again, in years of doing DYK I have never seen an article pulled from a set just because of a single non-AfD tag: copyvio, serious BLP issues or something like that. I reiterate: that would just open the door to drive-by disruption that we could not do anything about.

"Should not deserve" ... hmm? Were you paying attention to what you typed? Given that you left out that the first bullet point over there says "At the time of nomination ...", which means that if whoever wrote that meant for any other criteria there to apply even during the article's run on the Main Page, they would have said so. "While subjective, would obviously apply" cancels itself out even in the absence of that misreading. Daniel Case (talk) 05:41, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Of course I was. The fact that an article is seen as in a certain state at time of nomination doesn’t somehow insulate it against later problems. Qwirkle (talk) 05:46, 11 July 2024 (UTC)