Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/1998 FIFA World Cup Final/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by Gog the Mild via FACBot (talk) 23 June 2022 [1].


Nominator(s):  — Amakuru (talk) 09:34, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about the 1998 edition of the World's most important football (soccer) match, the FIFA World Cup Final. It featured the host nation, France, in their first final, against the previous champions Brazil. The pre-match headlines were dominated by the initial omission of Brazil's star player Ronaldo, only for him to later end up playing... but as a shadow of his usual self. Several conspiracy theories later emerged, but it remains something of a mystery to this day... As usual, any and all comments gratefully received, and I'll be happy to do reciprocal reviews for anyone who asks.  — Amakuru (talk) 09:34, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

CommentsSupport from TRM

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Lead

Background

Route to the final

More anon. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 19:03, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: I think I've looked at all your points so far... Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 21:13, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi TRM, anything further? Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 11:33, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ian Rose yes, sorry. I'm on half-term with kids etc, so don't have much time but perhaps at the weekend? If there's a mad rush then that's fine, but I'd rather that I do a decent review and that Amakuru gets a chance to get this one promoted? The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 21:11, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No problem at all, family comes first. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 21:32, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

More, at last, from me:

Pre-match

Match

Post-match

That's content reviewed. I can take a look at references if that's not already been by anyone else, who would no doubt be far more competent than me? The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 19:40, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Seems to have been a change to an attendance of 80,000 yet the "statistics" source clearly says 75,000...? The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 18:41, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: Yeah, there actually seems to be a slight discrepancy here. This "FIFA API" source does say 80,000, and that's the basis on which it was changed to 80,000. More sources do seem to say 75,000 though, including 11v11 and RSSSF, so I've restored that figure and added extra sourcing. I've removed "official" though, as it's not clear what the official figure really is, or whether there even is one. Let me know if anything else needs doing w.r.t. this. CHeers  — Amakuru (talk) 09:26, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry it's been a while, happy that my concerns have been addressed. We can't very well explain the rules of association football within this article, so the vitriol that brought down these kinds of articles in the past is a genuine waste of time, glad to see it's subsided significantly and allowed good faith editors to crack on with making excellent articles, like this one. So, glad to support now. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 16:47, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Mike Christie

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  • There were a lot of comments in the press about Blanc's red card in the semifinal; it was clear from video footage that Bilić was faking his injury. This article is about the final, not the semifinal, but given that it meant Blanc could not play I think a mention of the controversy is warranted.

I made quite a few copyedits; most were minor but please check to see if you disagree with anything. The above is the only suggestion I have; the article is in excellent condition. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 13:57, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 07:43, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from ChrisTheDude

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  • "The 1998 FIFA World Cup was the 17th edition of the World Cup, FIFA's football competition for national teams" - you specify men's in the lead but not here
    Fixed.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:33, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • "where which they were beaten" - where which?
    Fixed.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:33, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • "was labelled by former Brazilian Pelé" - pretty sure Pele is still Brazilian
    Fixed, I've added "forward".  — Amakuru (talk) 14:33, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The match ball for this game was" - was it the match ball for the whole tournament? If so, I would say that. If just for this game then it needs moving later, because otherwise you have a structure that essentially goes background to the whole tournament > specifics of the ball for the final > details of the earlier rounds > everything else about the final. which does not make chronological sense
    Fixed.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:33, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • That's what I got as far as the end of the Route to the final section, I will look at the rest later..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:08, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

More comments from ChrisTheDude

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Hi Amakuru, did you miss these recent comments? (t · c) buidhe 12:27, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Source review - spotchecks not done. Version reviewed

Hi Nikkimaria, how does this one seem now? Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:06, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
One minor point outstanding above, otherwise good. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:53, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Nikkimaria: - This appears to potentially have been addressed; are you comfortable with signing off on this now? Hog Farm Talk 04:14, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yep. Nikkimaria (talk) 12:26, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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