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The article was promoted by Ian Rose via FACBot (talk) 27 December 2023 [1].

1983–84 Gillingham F.C. season

Nominator(s): ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:56, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oh blimey, not another Gillingham F.C. season article, I hear everyone cry. Well, what can I say, I enjoy working on them so chances are they will keep on a-comin' :-) This particular season included (I think - the memory is slightly hazy given the yawning time gap between then and now) the first Gillingham match my dad ever took me to. Sadly it also included one of the club's most famous missed opportunities to defeat a team from the top division of English football....... :-( Feedback on the article will as ever be most gratefully received and swiftly acted upon..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:56, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pseud 14

and were near the foot of the league table - This may be MOS:IDIOM, perhaps simplify.
The first league game of the season at Gillingham's ground, Priestfield Stadium, took place a week later against Hull City;[15] Ray Daniel, a teenaged midfielder signed on loan from Luton Town, made his debut.[18] Gillingham conceded a goal in the first half and, although Leslie equalised with his first goal for the club shortly after the interval, ultimately lost 2–1. -- I think this should be split into 2 sentences.
Steve Bruce, a defender who was still only 22 years -- Either "still 22 years" or "only 22 years"
Gillingham were 22nd out of 24 teams -- Gillingham ranked 22nd
- "Ranked" is not used in that context in British English. The standard usage is just to say that team X "are/were Nth in the table", see eg the last sentence of this BBC Sport article -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:29, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps it is worth linking equaliser
promotion-chasing Wimbledon -- maybe this can we stated differently, like Wimbledon, who is up for promotion or a win away from promotion, something along those lines.
That's all that I could find. Another fine and solid work on this series. Pseud 14 (talk) 01:32, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Pseud 14: - many thanks for your review, all addressed bar one as noted above -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:29, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Pseud 14 (talk) 13:21, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

NØ

Just some comma removal suggestions:
- "It was the 52nd season in which Gillingham competed in the Football League, and the 34th since the club was voted back into the league in 1950."
- "they played 15 games and only won three times, to fall out of contention for promotion to the Second Division."
- "They lost in the first round of both the Football League Cup and the Associate Members' Cup, but reached the fourth round of the FA Cup"
"four games more still to play than the teams above them" => "four more games to play than the teams above them"
"The club had never reached the second level of English football in its history" - probably "its" could be removed without changing the meaning just to be more concise.
"Bruce scored twice and Weatherly and Cochrane added a goal each as Gillingham took a 4–0 lead, but their team-mates John Sitton and Peter Shaw then both scored own goals" => "Bruce scored twice, and Weatherly and Cochrane added a goal each as Gillingham took a 4–0 lead, but their team-mates John Sitton and Peter Shaw then both scored their own goals"
That's it!--N Ø 08:56, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @MaranoFan: - thanks for your review, all done apart from the last one. You don't say that a player scored "his" own goal, you just say that a player scored an own goal -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:03, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support--N Ø 09:04, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:08, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Source review

The sourcing follows a consistent format and the sources are reliable for the purposes they are used so this passes my source review.--N Ø 08:56, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Image review - pass

All images are appropriately licenced, positioned, captioned and alt texted. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:21, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support from Gog the Mild

Recusing to review.

"The team started the season poorly and were near the bottom of the league table at the end of September". This only really conveys information if you tell the reader when the season started and/or the number of matches played by the end of September.
- Amended -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:30, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"Prior to the new season, Gillingham signed two new players." Perhaps replace the full stop with a colon? (Or, if you prefer, a semi-colon.)
- Amended -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:30, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"John Leslie, a forward, arrived from Wimbledon,[8] and David Fry, a goalkeeper, joined the club from Crystal Palace." Is it known what if any transfer fee was paid?
- Amended -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:30, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"Four of Gillingham's five league games originally scheduled for January were postponed". Is it known why?
- Two because (contrary to expectations when the fixture list was drawn up) they were still involved in the FA Cup and couldn't play league and cup games at the same time. The other two were, I presume, down to the weather, it being January, but I couldn't find any source to confirm that -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:30, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Consider adding 'two because of their continued involvement in the FA Cup' or similar. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:43, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

FA Cup section: in the first paragraph you don't say whether any of the three matches were home or away.
- Amended -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:30, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Why did both replays take place at Priestfield?
- Clarified -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:30, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Was extra time not played at the end of the first FA Cup match against Everton?
- No, under the competition rules at the time, extra time was only played in replays -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:30, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

And that's it. Another well written little article. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:11, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Gog the Mild:- many thanks for your review - responses are above -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:30, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A final suggestion above, but I am happy to support as is. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:43, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Serial's support

I'm sure you've been asked before ;) but why call them "second choice colours" rather than the more common (if colloquial?) away kit, as you do in the IB?
- Changed -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:19, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Would be interesting to know more about the Japan game; that's the kind of thing that would be pretty rare now.
- Unfortunately I couldn't find any more info than what is in the article -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:19, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
What happened to red-linked Andy Woodhead, he leave the sport?
- He dropped into semi-professional regional football after being released by the Gills -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:19, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Out of curiosity, why (e.g.) Exeter City, Wigan Athletic, Lincoln City but only Orient?
- Because that was the club's name at the time -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:19, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - Check. Must've been a couple of years later they changed again... ——Serial 14:30, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    - @Serial Number 54129: - the "Leyton" was added (back) in 1987 -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:25, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
      - Ah that makes sense. It confused me as a kid; the first time I saw them, they were Orient, and the next they were LO :) ——Serial 15:30, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"had scored more than four goals" > "over four"
- Personally I think it works better as it is..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:19, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"played between two and five games fewer than every team above", but only in the League, isn't it? They played other matches in the Cup, and in any case have to make the league games up?
- Changed -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:19, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Link Matchday programme.
- Changed -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:19, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Chris, nice article. Talk about unlucky with Everton! ——Serial 22:13, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Serial Number 54129: - thanks for your review - responses above -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:19, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

All good, cheers chris, another in the Pantheon. Gibbon's Decline and Fall has got some competition :) ——Serial 14:30, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

SC

Putting down a marker - SchroCat (talk) 15:35, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Looks good to me and meets the FA criteria. - SchroCat (talk) 23:52, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Co-ordinator query

@FAC coordinators: - got another one ready to go, can I nom it? Oh, and happy Christmas if I don't speak to you before :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:59, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Go ahead. FrB.TG (talk) 12:52, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Ian Rose (talk) 00:43, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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