User talk:Kernigh

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pipe trick

I discovered a little trick. Stop me if you've heard this one before.

Often "normal" links to an article (putting square brackets around the article name) don't look quite right in normal running text. The article name includes extra disambiguation stuff before the colon, or inside parentheses, that's a bit jarring.

Adding a single pipe character to the link strips out that extra stuff, leaving the "normal" name, which is very often exactly what we wanted.

2 examples:

1. Acoustic:Boundary Conditions and Wave Properties [[Acoustic:Boundary Conditions and Wave Properties]]
2. Boundary Conditions and Wave Properties [[Acoustic:Boundary Conditions and Wave Properties|Boundary Conditions and Wave Properties]]
3. Boundary Conditions and Wave Properties [[Acoustic:Boundary Conditions and Wave Properties|]]

1. w:Hyperion (moon) [[w:Hyperion (moon)]]
2. Hyperion [[w:Hyperion (moon)|Hyperion]] (what people write when they don't know the pipe trick)
3. Hyperion [[w:Hyperion (moon)|]] (what people write when they do know the pipe trick)

(I wouldn't bother converting from the 2nd form to the more compact 3rd form, since they both look identical to readers, unless I was editing the link anyway.)

Keep on making those good wikibook edits.

--DavidCary 05:26, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Messageboxes

Hey, Kernigh, why are you changing site-wide templates without asking anyone for opinion?

BTW, you are doing strange things, like replacing CSS classes: "notice" and "metadata" (preventing template from being printed) by noneixisting class "top". --Derbeth ^talk 00:02, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

I did this test, which suggests that "top" works and "notice metadata" does not.

top

notice

I thought I was making only minor changes to the templates (though I think that I changed the width of some of them). Was I more "bold" then I should be? --Kernigh 00:07, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

I don't see any change made by "top". When it comes to templates design, your changes are not bad, but I don't understand why you made subst: to {{Message box}}. Take this example - you have to insert "metadata" to large number of templates now, if you had used {{Message box}}, you would have to insert it only once. --Derbeth ^talk 00:17, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

When I use "printable version" from "toolbox", "top" disappears for me in Konqueror browser, the other three do not. So I tried Firefox browser, where I was not logged in; again "top" disappears but the others do not.

Should I set class="top notice metadata"? --Kernigh 00:27, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

That's strange. I checked this page on three browsers: Opera, Firefox and Internet Explorer. All of them displayed only "notice". I'm sure "metadata" won't be printed, because it is mentioned in MediaWiki:Monobook.css. I'm only suprised that "top" is not printed, because I can't find it in Monobook and MediaWiki:Common.css. Nonetheless, because of semantic meaning "metadata" should be used and I don't see any reason for using "top". --Derbeth ^talk 00:42, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

I just noticed that class="top" is working in the User namespace, but not in the Template namespace. Further, class="metadata" only disappears for me if I actually print the page (using print preview), not if I use the "printable versions" link. So it seems that only class="metadata" will work from templates. I will go change the templates. --Kernigh 00:47, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

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Test using "center" instead of "div" element: --Kernigh 01:04, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

top notice

So class="top" works on "div", but not on "center". --Kernigh 01:06, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Speedy Delete

Is there really any discussion page for SD, nothing has ever been discussed on the candidates listing page. You have tagged Christianity/Christianity and the world's religions for SD. What about the other 19 blank pages on the Main page outline? The outline did not originate with me, but I completed Chapter 1 as I had extra time from working on the Appendix. Christianity took 2000 years to develop and this hefty overview might take a while. The "no wiki page for this" was just some digital gladiator taking potshots at Christianity, never to return. - Athrash | ^Talk 22:31, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Are you familiar with the Project:Deletion policy? One can speedily delete "a page with no meaningful content". If there are "other 19 blank pages", then I missed them because I encountered Christianity/Christianity and the world's religions by chance.

If you want to discuss the page, you can list it at Project:Votes for deletion. --Kernigh 01:25, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

meta

Kernigh, I left a message at your meta talk page. Thanks, Chick Bowen 21:13, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Adminship

I'm wondering why you still haven't requested for adminship here and noone has nominated you. IMO you're doing lots of cleanup work here and such permissions would allow to make many things easier and faster. You are doing good nominations for speedy deletion, revert vandalism quite often and clean up old pages. It will be your fourth month here. Looking at your contributions, you are a reasonable person so, all in all, I think you are good material for a sysop. --Derbeth ^talk 18:37, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

At 28 December 2005, I created Bugzilla:4414. I had lost the ability to view deleted edit histories. The bug closed with "Please discuss the issue with the enwikibooks community," at which point I understood that it was not a bug, it was a decision by developers to delegate decisions to communities.

In January, I started thinking that it would be convenient if I could delete certain pages instead of using {{delete}}. A request for adminship at WB:RFA is a way for me to ask Wikibookians whether they would let me delete pages and read their histories. I will do a request for adminship when I have time. --Kernigh 02:58, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Elements of Style on WS

A message awaits you! Kind regards 213.120.56.41 20:33, 24 January 2006 (UTC) AKA Apwoolrich on WS

Message

Check your Wiktionary talk page. I left a message for you there. Happy editing! --Cromwellt 00:32, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Nomination for Adminship

Just an FYI, but you have been nominated for adminship here on Wikibooks, thanks in large part due to your contributions. We certainly can use a few more admins here, and I would ask you to accept this nomination if you are interested. --Rob Horning 02:29, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

thanks

Thanks for your help with deleting the pages I'd merged -- much appreciated! Sorry for the hassle; I should have been more careful.--Bcrowell 03:27, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

BTW, Kernigh, I hope you know who Bcrowell is likely to be.... Dr. Ben Crowell who wrote the Physics textbook that can be found at http://www.lightandmatter.com/. If he is contributing to Wikibooks I am incredibly impressed. I hope this is not a userper of the name but the actual guy. I hope we can encourage him to continue on Wikibooks but not overwhelm him. --Rob Horning 14:58, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

m:Transwiki:Wikimania05

I got a major complaint today about the transwiki of this Wikibook to Meta, and the user is so pissed that he invoked Jimbo. I basically replied "bring it on! I'd love to see Jimbo try to defend this Wikibook."

I sorta doubt that Jimbo is going to be so forceful, but I finished off the transwiki yesterday with deleting all of the Wikimania content. I suggested that he put up a proposal on Wikibooks:Votes for undeletion if he really is that pissed over the whole thing. This is an FYI because your name is attached to a part of the transwiki to Meta.

I knew I was stepping on some "powerful" toes by doing a transwiki of this content, and I'll see just how independent we as a Wikibooks community really are going to be with this transfer. This book should not have been here in the first place, and I did complain about it back elsewhen. I think I have a stronger backbone on this now, and am willing to even go against board members (who BTW encouraged the Wikimania content to be added in the first place to Wikibooks). --Rob Horning 01:05, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

This was a fair bit of work. I don't see this as stepping on toes so much as being courteous to current users of the content; replacing this page with a stub that points visitors to the right place (and protecting it), &c.

Meta is a fine place to have the proceedings end up. I am not sure which board members you feel encouraged the proceedings to be added to Wikibooks last summer; I seem to recall it being the book-like nature of traditional conference proceedings that suggested using WB in the first place. Sj 07:10, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

The board members who encouraged this to be on Wikibooks were Anthere and Angela. Both contributed to it here on Wikibooks, and certainly did not raise any objection to it, dispite a strong protest by Aya at the time. I didn't know that at the time, but after I was about half way through the process of deleting the content did I notice both names on the edit history log of many of the pages, as I noticed yours as well, SJ. --Rob Horning 10:02, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

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BTW, I guess I need to thank you at least partically for your defense of my removal of this content. There are more pages that Brion restored that need to be deleted as well, but you provided a good start. And thanks for the redirects as well. I've been a stick in the mud about the redirects mainly because of the "demands" that I perform the action instead of one of the Wikimania participants stepping in and doing it themselves. It didn't require sysop privileges to add the redirects. Thanks anyway, and I hope this whole thing quiets down real soon. --Rob Horning 10:02, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations

Congrats, Kernigh, you are a sysop now. Make good use of your admin tools. --Derbeth ^talk 02:22, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

I normally edit with Konqueror, but some of my Firefox windows were too narrow to hold all of those new tabs. --Kernigh 00:50, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Congrats tambien. Don't be afraid to ask for help with admin tools if you are unsure about something. --LV ^{(Dark Mark)} 02:38, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

My RFA

Kernigh. I thought I would write you concerning my RFA. I thought I would ask (and hope) that you would reconsider your vote of Oppose. While I know my contributions weighs heavy to my own project, if you look closely you will see where I have contributed to other projects (primarily with suggestions and comments.) I have taken your advice and began watching the locations you have suggested. I will admit I am not a die hard vandal hunter, I feel I can be an asset in taking what I've learned from Wikibooks and help others to improve their materials. I guess I could become a major vandal hunter if that's what it takes to help others with development, but I feel that my assistance in the area of development would be my strength. I completely understand if you choose not to, but I thought I would at least ask for your consideration. Thanks.--Mfinney 10:00, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Deleting Things On Wikipedia

Over there, the tag for speedies is {{csd}} and has to meet certain requirements, some of which are fairly contreversial and undefined. If it doesn't meet speedy requirements, it goes into a certain area (Articles For Deletion, Redirects For Deletion, Stubs For Deletion, Miscellaneous For Deletion, Templates For Deletion, etc.), although that varies from place to place and depending on who closes the debate, unfortunately. Karmafist 03:49, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the tips!

I will ask the site admin. Thanks a million! Template:Grin Renmiri 14:56, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

THINKSTARSHIP

hey, interested graphic you left for me. And an interesting trail. as long as we are playing with useful graphics, maybe you could try the "This module is under Construction" kind until I let you know things have changed? I'm only two weeks into this? Actually a little less. Give me like a month or two to get it together and then come knocking? k? Prometheuspan 23:51, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Talk:THINKSTARSHIP

i hope you don't mind, i moved your graphic to the talk page and put up a copy of the template but with something that doesn't give me anxiety to read, or make me have to scroll down every time i go to the main page. Prometheuspan 04:54, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Lord of the Flies and failed Google test

I've gone through the history of the content for this Wikibook, and I am convinced that the bundle of other web pages are all copies of the content that was originally developed here on Wikibooks. The first edit was done back in April 2004 (almost two years ago) and subsequent additions of content was very piecemeal with almost 300 different unique edits to this page. While there may have been some recent additions that did copy from perhaps previous copyrighted material, this Wikibook doesn't seem to be the problem here. Instead, I think these other websites are violating our copyright at Wikibooks, for failure to disclose the GFDL and acknowledging that Wikibooks is the source of this material.

I'd like to dig up some more information about this, but I think you found a really good copyright violation I'd like to hand over to the Wikimedia legal team. I'm sure a couple of appropriate letters sent to a couple of website owners about misuse of Wikibooks content.... --Rob Horning 03:05, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

As requested in #wikimedia-irc

"I am IRC Kernigh" Kernigh 03:49, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your help. I could have figured much of it out by reading the guidelines forever, but you definitely saved me a bunch of time. - Taxman 06:34, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi, this is Martha Whittington

You wrote a note on the page I so 'bolded' created. If my comments don't fit this wonderful site then go ahead and delete it. I meant no harm.

Thanks for explaining what Wikibooks can do.

Thanks for your time, take care.

MW

Novial book

I'm changing the naming convention for the pages to conform to the agreed standard. Old pages will become redirects to new copies. I'm the only person working on this book so there shouldn't be confusion. I won't finish it all in one day either. Novialiste 00:19, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

On the front page of the Novial book I have indicated which old pages can be deleted. Could you or another administrator delete those? Thanks. Novialiste 11:05, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

RuneScape Cheats

Hey man. In votes for deletion, you said this about the RuneScape Cheats article.

The bot community is trying to make contractually illegal the informing of JAGex or the public about bots; maybe we should mention that somewhere in the book.

I don't fully understand what you're saying there. Can you go further into detail please?? Richard 01:37, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

To write a Wikibook module about RuneScape cheating robots, or to verify that the mentioned bots actually exist, one would need to research them. However at this time I guess that JAGeX has suppressed most cheating bots, and their remaining users are hiding behind forums such as aryanrune, and applying terms of use that impede anyone from describing these bots in public.

The most problematic part of their terms reads, In these Terms and Conditions "images" refers to the images used by the domain and host of AryanRune.com. To view any image on fagex.net or its server that it is hosted on, you must not be in any way affiliated with Jagex Ltd you must not be affiliated with RuneScape and/or Employed by either. / Viewing the images on the site means you are in no way trying to report, send, capture or scan this sites server or images.

For now, I ignore the difference between AryanRune.com and fagex.net. These terms not only bar JAGeX/RuneScape from accessing the "images", they also bar third parties – such as Wikibook authors – from describing ("report") the contents of the images.

However, it is also possible that I only misinterpreted the terms. --Kernigh 03:07, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

K but I got another question for you.

A user made an Experience Table for RuneScape. I was wondering, if its possible, can you please rename it to RuneScape/Skills/Experience Table? Richard 20:32, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

I took care of this one, thanks for making the request though Richard. --Rob Horning 04:34, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Coq au vin

Thanks. A book could be written about this dish, but I'm just trying to add my recipe to the Cookbook. I started this tonight after a good meal, using methods I learned on WP, so I think I'll come back here tomorrow and pick up the technical stuff.--Shtove 23:56, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Meta on Cabalism

Great, that sounds like a good option. I'll focus on it there instead of here if I build it up again. Thank you for your kind and considerate input there. Karmafist 17:40, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Mythology/Greek Mythology and Greek Mythology

Hi, back in February, you expressed a desire to merge these two books together. I merged the two on Greek Mythology because it has considerably more pages than Mythology/Greek Mythology, and changed the latter's pages to redirects. The only pages that still need to be merged are Talk:Mythology/Greek Mythology and Talk:Greek Mythology. Now the only issue that remains is whether the book should be part of Mythology or stand on its own. I'll leave that up to you to decide. Cheers! --Hagindaz 05:50, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Lolo 2 (Japanese) info

Hello. I saw your message and see how the format works. I'm doing well so far, I believe. I had 6 of the 17 levels pre-written, which is why progress was so fast. I intend to reword some things to make them not be first person.

I also wanted to ask you a question with the way my guides are structured: Is my use of images for each level acceptable? I'd like to think that it is, but if you have any recommendations I would like to hear them. If you wish to see what I mean, please use this link for a quick demonstration. Thanks for your help at the beginning. --Sivak 05:55, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

RuneScape/Popular item price guide

Man, I need some help with this page. It gets vandilized every fricken day. Retards remove whole sections and put swears all over it. I'm really angry, REALLY angry over what people are doing and I'm deciding on deleting it to avoid the problem. But before this, I was wondering if maybe you could do something about, like make it on a 'high risk for vandilism' or something that can keep it watched often. It's just so annoying to see everyday that someone messed up the page. Thanks for the help you've done before, and maybe you could do this last thing.

Oh, and can it be renamed to RuneScape/Guides/Item Price Guide? Thanks. Richard 12:58, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Current location is RuneScape/Guides/Item Price. --Kernigh 17:48, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Page moves

What is it with these odd page-moves?? --TurretTower 15:18, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism. If you see any more vandal page-moves, you can report them to Wikibooks:Vandalism in progress. --Kernigh 17:48, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism attack on our user pages

I just reverted some vandalism by an idiot who moved both of our user pages and user talk pages. I put them back, but I also added move protection, and even edit protection on the main user page. You are certainly welcome to reverse that for your own page, but I felt that would be a good general protection to you in this situation, especially since you have admin authority anyway to do what you want on these pages. I want to nail this idiot, and I want to thank you for bringing up the current discussion on Foundation-l. --Rob Horning 13:37, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

I share my IP address with these vandals. Ignore them... they'll get bored like most Wiki-vandals do! --TurretTower 14:55, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

DickyRobert?

On my talk page, I got a DickyRobert template. What the heck is it? Can it be removed? --Richard 00:28, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

It was vandalism; you can revert it. It looks like User:Robert Horning already reverted the template and blocked that vandal. --Kernigh 16:32, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Wikibooks Embassy and technical help

Kernigh,

I started an English Embassy page, which is pretty much a copy of the english wikipedia's embassy page. I was wondering, if it should be Wikibooks:English Embassy instead, or anything like that. Also, I would like to ask people who speak other languages if they would like to list themselves on the page, to be available for any non-english speaking people who would need help- I was wondering, should I look at the different language categories and ask people on their personal page, or just post on the staff lounge?(I don't want to keep posting stuff there every day if it isn't appropriate)

Also, I have been preparing to contribute to the Russian Language wikibook, but don't know much about using templates and making boxes(you know, the things that make wikibooks look pretty). I was wondering, are there people out there who can make a bland wikibook look better as content is being added, based on the needs of the wikibook? Maybe I should ask about it in the staff lounge too, I don't know. I basically am asking you this because you seem to know what you're doing more than anyone else here. Thanks in advance, DettoAltrimenti 19:58, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Image:Wikiversity-logo-zs.png

I clarified the legalities of the licensing issue at Wikipedia commons for Wikiversity-logo-zs.png. I hope this helps.

Basically, the licensing is the only thing that matters. The owner can grant as many licenses to use his image as he wants. Each license can have its own stipulations. He granted one license to the world under the GNU FDL and another license to me to make the logo. The logo license was issued separately and directly from the owner, and is therefore not subject to the GNU FDL. For that reason, I can grant propriety rights to the logo to the Wikimedia foundation. --Zephram Stark 16:49, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Videogame transwikiing method

In various postings you've mentioned your search for a transwikiing aid. MWDumper seems to be the answer. It can search an archive and extract pages based on a filter list, so all you need is a full dump. I've been testing its accuracy and so far I haven't come across any problems.

This is the tool StrategyWiki is going to use, and I've already begun creating automated filters for it to aid transwikiing. These are written in a compatible raw format; they can be pasted straight into a .txt for MWDumper's consumption. Garrett^Talk 12:08, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Actually, what I am interested in is a way to remove guides from this wiki, Wikibooks, after transwiki. Currently, if we move a guide to Strategy Wiki or elsewhere, then it is a fork; a copy remains at Wikibooks. I would like to have a Wikibooks policy that allows us to delete these guides.

Wikibooks:Deletion policy already allows us to use {{transwiki}} to delete stuff, but that only applies for transwikis to other Wikimedia projects. However, if most Wikibookians support it, then we can change the deletion policy to let us delete moved computer and video game guides. --Kernigh 18:51, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Oh, now I get what you're talking about! Well, I can't see anything like that being passed through any time soon what with all this chaos. In the meantime you could list them on Vfd. Since they now breach WB:WIW (or at least Jimbo's revision of it) the lack of a matching clause in the deletion policy is immaterial. Garrett^Talk 03:10, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Bureaucrats can now set, unset 'bot' flags

Yes, I did, and even changed information at WB:RFA in section about bots. --Derbeth ^talk 23:19, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Policy review

Policy is not the most exciting subject at Wikibooks but we do have some major unresolved issues.

The most important issue, in my opinion, is Dispute resolution which starts by declaring that:

"Currently there is no official organized process to resolve disputes between users"

The suggested remedy for this is: Wikibooks:Ad hoc administration committee which puts into place the absolute minimum in terms of an enforcement apparatus.

The second most important is Wikibooks:No personal attacks where a vote has recommended the policy be enforced but it still languishes as "proposed".

The third policy that is needed and which will prevent edit disputes from getting out of hand is Wikibooks:Editing disputes policy.

Other policies that need consideration are at: Policies and guidelines.

Please spare a minute or two to peruse these issues and add a comment and/or a vote. RobinH 12:35, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

empty pages

well, to tell the truth, i didnt understand anything you said, sorry. but i didnt create empty pages.... if you go to edit, youll see that stuff is there, i just havent added all the data yet, so i hid the stuff with <!-- and --!> so that it would be easier to add all the data later.... but thanks for deleting them without talking to me first... thatll be a biiiigg help... -Xornok 13:11, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Reply from Yunzhong Hou

Thanks for replying to the discussion page on the StarCraft Wikibook. You are the first person since my series of revisions to leave a comment, and I was becoming desperate.

I would like to point out to you that my High Templar page on Wikipedia is more than a 'poorly written article'; it survived the Deletion proposal by overwhelming votes, and many of the voters agreed with me that the StarCraft articles should be transferred to Wikibooks because doing so will make the subject's various pages more coherent. Although the task is daunting, I have already transwikified my High Templar page and many others.

However, I do agree with you that some components of the page are a bit irrelevant or crude, in which case I would be happy to make any changes that you deem important. If you can, please find people who may be interested in editing the StarCraft Wikibook. I know only a few Wikipedes. Thanks! --Yunzhong Hou 02:40, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Templates vs. screenshots

Hello there. You were the one who initially spoke to me about the Adventures of Lolo 2 (Japanese) book and ways to go about doing it. I've done some more work on it and I wanted to ask you: I've come up with a new template to assist in the guide. What I was doing before was posting screenshots, but using the template I can lay out things and hopefully eliminate screenshots. My question is: What is better? The template of the screenshots? The template could be applied to future books, though the screenshots are quick and simple.

• One page that is using the new template is This one
• One page that is using the screenshot system is This one

I would like to hear from you about your opinion as you are an administrator and I don't want to get ahead of myself. Thank you. --Sivak 05:42, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Replied at User talk:Sivak. --Kernigh 19:22, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Vicious circle

I noticed that on Wikibooks:No personal attacks you seemed to support enforcement. There is a vicious circle occurring in Wikibooks Policies where the absence of an accepted policy on voting (see Wikibooks:General voting rules) can be used to prevent votes from becoming enforced. It seems to me that unless we get Wikibooks:General voting rules enforced we cannot get any other policy enforced. This is fine for the moment but I have looked over the wall at Wikipedia.... RobinH 10:20, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

I commented on Wikibooks talk:No personal attacks, where I wrote, "I prefer that we have only one policy to deal with user behaviour (limiting insults against users, implementing consistent voting rules, resolving various disputes) instead of creating so many pages." --Kernigh 01:27, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

"accredited institution"

You might want to read the comments I left for Rob at Wikibooks:Votes_for_deletion#How_To_Build_A_Pykrete_Bong. It seems WMF is not internally consistent about its mission for WB. Jimbo obviously has a particular view and could likely make that WMF policy, but it is definitely not 100% clear. I assume you've also read w:User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Wikibooks_Howtos. Kellen ^T 00:47, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Wikibooks:No personal attacks Change of text

You voted for enforcement of Wikibooks:No personal attacks. The text of this policy has been changed by Jguk during the vote, I have further modified these changes to restore some of the original "bite". This is highly unusual but without these changes Jguk is unwilling to allow the policy to move to enforced. I am happy that the changes are not sufficiently substantial to undermine the policy, if you disagree then please make your views known. Changes to text during a vote could be construed as a delaying tactic so I have proposed a move to "enforced" status by 1st June. RobinH 10:05, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Could you update the CSS files?

See http://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?limit=500&title=Special%3ARecentchanges&namespace=9. Thanks, hagindaz 17:04, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

votes for deletion

Kernigh, could you look at Wikibooks:Votes_for_deletion#Technical_Analysis and Wikibooks:Votes_for_deletion#New_Zealand_Economics, I'd really like to clean up the Business and economics bookshelf. DettoAltrimenti 22:12, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

XML/Firefox

Thanks for answering my question at the help desk. Your second idea sounds viable, but once I get the page, I have no idea how to selectively take out say the premieres for October 25th or something (or to make it easier, the first five lines). And none of the tutorials I read help me. They all assume the site has an RSS feed or are already written in XML in which case isolating information is a breeze, just include one link in your code. How do you import selected text from HTML sources into a firefox extension? - 131.211.210.16 07:54, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
P.S. You can answer at w:User talk:MacGyverMagic. - 131.211.210.16 07:55, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Blender Dokumentation seems to use non-GFDL license

Hallo Kernigh, I've written a comment on http://de.wikibooks.org/wiki/Benutzer_Diskussion:Kernigh regarding the topic. In short: no, http://de.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_Dokumentation is not a copy of http://mediawiki.blender.org/index.php/Manual.de/Handbuch, but I've written text as well for de.wikibooks.org as for mediawiki.blender.org. http://de.wikibooks.org/wiki/Benutzer:Soylentgreen

Wikibooks:General voting rules/Proposal

I want to call the attention of all wikibookians, especially active admins to the discussion about the new voting policy. Wikibooks currently does not have a concrete voting policy in effect, so the adaptation of this policy will potentially create immediate differences in the way business is conducted here. Due to large amounts of discussion, changes, and dissention, there are several versions of this policy being considered:

• Version 1 Written by User:Whiteknight
• Version 2 Written by User:Jguk
• Version 3 User:RobinH's revision of Jguk's version
• Version 4 Written by User:Kellen
• Version 5 Whiteknight's Revision of Kellen's Version.

Also, there are additional issues being discussed, such as the inclusion of a "minimum contributions" clause, that will limit users with less then 20 votes from editing. Also, there is a proposed clause that would allow this 20 vote minimum to be raised in response to abuse.

I am sending this same message to all currently active admins. I hope you are able to come in and give your opinions on this matter. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 20:48, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Your De-Adminship

Hello. I would like to inform you that you will have your sysop rights removed here on 8 Oct 2007 due to inactivity. If you would like to discuss the matter, please see WB:RFA. You can re-apply for adminship at a later date if you wish. Thanks. -withinfocus 01:06, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Kernigh,

After a request on meta I have removed your adminship on this wiki, according to local removal policy. Effeietsanders 14:49, 11 October 2007 (UTC)