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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Jellypuzzle (talk | contribs) at 07:15, 25 May 2007. The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

It seems that, by inference, this song is pro-illegal immigration. Is that relevant to this article? I would argue that it is considering the fact that Jack White has previously avoided engaging in political commentary...

Under Wikipedia policies, it's only relevant if you can find a reliable source which draws that inference. Reliable source would be something like Rolling Stone, NME, not a blog. Notinasnaid 09:27, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Having read the lyrics, I'd say it's easy to conclude the song is pro-immigration, but songwriters may also put opinions into the voices of characters. Few people, for example, think Pete Townsend think Nick Cave actually murders people, or that David Bowie went in to space. This is a dangerous area, and the reason Wikipedia requires some reliable source to make connections, rather than editors to have an insight. If a reliable source is found, for things like this it is better to report this as what a source says rather than a simple fact (e.g. -- --, writing in the -- -- (citation) said that the song was --; or --, in an interview in --, said that the song was --). Hope this helps, Notinasnaid 10:16, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sure some "reliable source" will mention it once the album/single is released. The music video also pretty clearly shows the immigration thing with the "Great Wall of Mexico" at the end etc. If we do find sources then it makes sense to include it. Someone's already put it in the main article:
"Jack White does not write about the politics, as a rule. However, "The Big Three Killed My Baby", could be considered as a political song because the lyrics attack the automotive industry's lack of vision and the fall of the major labor unions of the 1960s to 1980s. Moreover, in an altered version of the song played on stage, Jack sings, "and Bush's hands are turning red… and I found out your baby is dead." Also, in the song "Icky Thump", he sings "White American / What? Nothing better to do? / Why don't you kick yourselves out? / You're an immigrant, too".
Jellypuzzle | Talk 07:14, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]