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Interstate 90 was a good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
January 29, 2005	Featured article candidate	Not promoted
January 31, 2007	Peer review	Reviewed
August 28, 2016	Good article nominee	Not listed
December 24, 2020	Good article nominee	Not listed
Current status: Former good article nominee

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Replace I-77 with I-39?

Hmm, I was thinking about this. While I-39 is not as notable as I-77, and is shorter, there is already an Ohio link for I-75. None for Wisconsin. It's better to spread it out. (On a side note, it might be worthwhile to give it a Pennsylvania link, minus the fact that there isn't anything better. We might be better off replacing I-77 with I-79.) Pinging active USRD participants Dough4872 Imzadi1979 Destroyeraa Needforspeed888 Cards84664 Fredddie WashiOtaku this is not a canvassing attempt rather to notify people into a discussion who are active so it doesn't go stale. --Hurricane Tracker 495 23:51, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't really have a preference. All of those can be considered major junctions. Needforspeed888 (talk) 00:05, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There’s currently 11 junctions in the infobox. We have a limit of 10 junctions in the infobox. Therefore I would probably just remove the I-77 junction since Ohio is already represented with I-75 and generally for longer Interstates we usually include junctions with major Interstates (those ending in 0 or 5). Dough4872 00:19, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, we've got one too many, so I-77 should go and nothing should replace it. Imzadi 1979 → 00:21, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That's right; there is 11. I'll go fix it. --Hurricane Tracker 495 00:29, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Interstate 90/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

I'd say a fairly good article, I've worked on a bit. But its definitely not perfect. --Hurricane Tracker 495 14:57, 24 December 2020 (UTC) Reviewer: Destroyeraa (talk · contribs)[reply]

Comments—I think this nomination is fairly premature. Just looking at things, the RD section is mostly unreferenced, and the history section is way too short to meet the GA criteria. Start looking at all of the state-level articles and pull summaries of the construction history over and make sure the RD has more footnotes. Until then, this will never pass. Imzadi 1979 → 16:34, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

✗ Fail. Sorry, but many places are missing citations, especially in the Route description section. ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 16:45, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- To answer your question, I nominated it and can't review. --Hurricane Tracker 495 19:53, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - @HurricaneTracker495: you'd do well to read the previous GAN review and work on those issues before nominating. Basically, nothing was done of substance to address them, so this article is still a quite a ways from meriting listing as a GA. Imzadi 1979 → 22:47, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    - @Imzadi1979: I looked at the Aug 24 2016 revision can you show me the 1st GA? --Hurricane Tracker 495 22:52, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      - @HurricaneTracker495: Talk:Interstate 90/GA1. 02:02, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
        Notification did not get sent out(extra ~)but I see. I-90 is not close to GA yet. --Hurricane Tracker 495 02:37, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@HurricaneTracker495: Some tidbits. First, you should not create the review page. The reviewer should. Second, it is futile to nominate an article for GA when it is clearly not ready. Make sure that the article meets the six criterion stated on WP:GAI. I’m sorry, but if an article is clearly not ready and has missing citations, it is almost a guaranteed speedy fail. I hope this helps. Happy holidays! ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 02:48, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I see now. (I may have to wake up at christmas before 630 am due to the windstorm). --Hurricane Tracker 495 02:50, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

B-class?

I know why Imzadi1979 and Destroyeraa failed the GA review, but is the article at least at B class quality or still only C class quality? --Hurricane Tracker 495 20:03, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@HurricaneTracker495: As much as I want it to be B-class, it fails the citation criterion of B-class. Many places need citations. ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 20:06, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's not B-Class, not because of the citations, per se, but because the History section is so deficient. Imzadi 1979 → 20:57, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It fails both b1 and b2, which is referencing and citations and also coverage and accuracy. ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 21:06, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Destroyeraa: USRD doesn't use that set of criteria. See WP:USRD/A. Imzadi 1979 → 21:14, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Imzadi1979: Aw, ok. Thanks. I was using the WPTC criteria :) ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 22:33, 25 December 2020 (UTC)~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 22:33, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In USRD after C-class it requires an in depth review. --Hurricane Tracker 495 22:48, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If the history section were any more deficient, this would be Start-Class. Imzadi 1979 → 00:36, 26 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not too easy to expand, either, without going into nitty gritty details from every state. --Hurricane Tracker 495 00:45, 26 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I hate to break it to you, but you've chosen one of the most difficult U.S. road articles to try and get to GA. --Rs chen 7754 00:48, 26 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Rschen7754: Better article? --Hurricane Tracker 495 01:00, 26 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You picked the longest Interstate Highway. Not only is it over 3000 miles long, it goes through several states. That means that you have to go and research the history in each state - not every single last detail, but enough to give a good overview. This is just about the worst article to start with in all of USRD. Even something like California State Route 125 which is a lot simpler, can take me several days to research and write. This one? Maybe a few months. --Rs chen 7754 02:01, 26 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Huh. It's really the history section that needs most work with a few sources. I was thinking maybe Interstate 87 (New York), but its already a GA. Maybe i should work on Interstate 95 instead? --Hurricane Tracker 495 02:14, 26 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) And yet, that's what we have to do. That section should be a summary of the overall history of the full length. It doesn't have to go into every detail, because the sub articles do that, but it should provide a summary of the highlights: when were the toll roads built that preceded the Interstate designation. When was the highway finished, etc.? Nothing on the post-completion highlights (Big Dig in Boston?) either. You may have content in the RD that should be moved to the History for starters. Imzadi 1979 → 00:53, 26 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]