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Church Name

Today, I reverted all of the changes naming this church "Holy Family Church." I could find no evidence that such a change has been made. Both the parish and the diocese continue to refer to the church as "Holy Family Cathedral." In a couple of places I have found the parish refers to itself as "The First Cathedral of the Diocese of Orange" and not as the former cathedral of the Diocese of Orange. Until a name and status change has occurred officially, we cannot change its name or status here. The dedication of Christ Cathedral in Garden Grove does not change this church's status or name in itself. We also should not assume what a new name might be until or if it happens. Some former cathedrals are granted the title "Proto-Cathedral," others are called "Old Cathedral," while others are not given such a distinction and are simply called "(Patron Name) Church." This page needs to stay as "Holy Family Cathedral" until an official change has been announced. Farragutful (talk) 17:33, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I note that the currently cited official page from the City of Orange refers to this is a church. Note that the statement Until a name and status change has occurred officially, we cannot change its name or status here. is absolutely incoprrect. Wikipedia uses the Common name that is tyhe most frequently used name in reliable sources. We do normally want sources for a name change, but they do not need to be "official" sources. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 15:40, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Original research

I added the original research template to the article as I can find no proof that Holy Family Cathedral is now Holy Family Church. I have reached out to Diegobcardenas who made the change, but he has failed to respond. Farragutful (talk) 20:47, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Farragutful I could find anything to substantiate this either, so I removed it. Lupin VII (talk) 23:16, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Lupin VII The original research I tagged this article for is renaming Holy Family Cathedral Holy Family Church. You removed information and the sources that support that information. That is the opposite of original research. Farragutful (talk) 12:31, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Farragutful Crap, sorry. Don't Wikipedia when tired is the takeaway from this. Sorry again. Lupin VII (talk) 13:53, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Lupin VII Well now, that gave me a good laugh! Kind regards. Farragutful (talk) 14:34, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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