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A news item involving Norman Lear was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the In the news section on 6 December 2023.

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Turns out the 2017 image was a cropped image which showed him with other Kennedy Center honorees

This is the full image

I am not at all comfortable with a photo of the Even This I Get To Experience/Just Another Version of You era Norman

On the first page of his autobiography preface, he even praised Charles Lindbergh and didn't bring up how Lindbergh was someone who had some Nazi sympathy. Lindbergh even got a Service Cross of the German Eagle medal from Hermann Goering and once claimed "There is no escaping the fact that men were definitely not created equal...".[1]. The Norman who boosted Lindbergh's kid appeal and who even credited Lindbergh for inspiring his dad to fly to Oklahoma is not comforting to me.Speakfor23 (talk) 00:08, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion regarding photo

Norman Lear lived 101 years, and so finding a photo in his "prime" is debatable. However I do feel the current photo best represents him as he would be known to many modern readers of Wikipedia. Using a cropped 1975 photo (without his trademark hat) would seem to be a disservice to the quality of the article.

One IP editor however had made repeated claims that Mr. Lear praised Nazis in his autobiography and that the current photo should not be used. Can we please start a discussion, rather than creating an edit war with the photo? 2604:3D09:6A86:F300:7419:4323:970F:D6A4 (talk) 21:04, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Milowent @Rosewolf88 For your consideration, thank you for your attention. 2604:3D09:6A86:F300:7419:4323:970F:D6A4 (talk) 21:08, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@ARoseWolf 2604:3D09:6A86:F300:787D:36D5:D807:DA1B (talk) 23:49, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, what was claimed was that he praised Charles Lindbergh, who was a Nazi sympathizer. It's in the preface of his autobiography Even This I Get To Experience.Speakfor23 (talk) 11:34, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't claim that I claimed he was praising Nazis when I claimed he was praising a Nazi sympathizer. Lindbergh received a German Eagle Cross from Hermann Goering and made very disturbing comments about the issue of race.[2][3] I don't feel comfortable with a photo with the Norman who praised Lindbergh.Speakfor23 (talk) 11:56, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Would like to remind everyone that Wikipedia does not censor based on if something makes you feel uncomfortable, however, I think that, with everything, it should be take into consideration. " I don't feel comfortable with a photo with the Norman who praised Lindbergh." He is still the same Norman in every photo. It is his life, good, bad, ugly, beautiful. We don't have to like things people do. We don't have to agree with their actions but his Song is written and it is the Human Song. For the record, I think the current photo is still best. --ARose Wolf 13:00, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]