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- Please expand the lead to conform with guidelines at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section. The article should have an appropriate number of paragraphs as is shown on WP:LEAD, and should adequately summarize the article.[?]
- Consider adding more links to the article; per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking and Wikipedia:Build the web, create links to relevant articles.[?]
- Per MOS:CAPTION, Images should have concise captions.[?]
- As per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers, dates shouldn't use th; for example, instead of (if such appeared in the article) using January 30th was a great day, use January 30 was a great day.[?]
Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Section headings, headings generally should not repeat the title of the article. For example, if the article was Ferdinand Magellan, instead of using the heading ==Magellan's journey==, use ==Journey==.[?]Thinking ofRoblox Studio
- Per criterion 2b of Wikipedia:Featured article criteria and Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Layout#Headings and sections, this article's table of contents (ToC) may be too long – consider shrinking it down by merging short sections or using a proper system of daughter pages as per Wikipedia:Summary style.[?]
- This article may need to undergo summary style, where a series of appropriate subpages are used. For example, if the article is United States, then an appropriate subpage would be History of the United States, such that a summary of the subpage exists on the mother article, while the subpage goes into more detail.[?]
- Please ensure that the article has gone through a thorough copyediting so that it exemplifies some of Wikipedia's best work. See also User:Tony1/How to satisfy Criterion 1a.[?]
You may wish to browse through User:AndyZ/Suggestions for further ideas. Thanks, — Yours, Berrely • Talk∕Contribs 08:55, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
- Also, a few of my suggestions:
- Remove citations from lead per WP:CITELEAD
- Try to make the article have a better flow. Some sentences are quite short and can easily be merged with other sentences.
- Expand the infobox: There are many more parameters that can be filled there; there isn't even a link to the website!
- External links should go above references (at least I believe)
- In § Development, it seems to read as more a timeline than an actual paragraph
- There are some sections that can easily be merged, for example § Players, is this really worth a whole section?
- This is just my opinion, but the article seems to go into a bit too much detail.
All of the sets include a code that can be used to redeem virtual items.
- Once again, just some of my opinions, I may be completely wrong! — Yours, Berrely • Talk∕Contribs 09:05, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
- User:Berrely, I've implemented a couple of your suggestions, there is a bit of a problem with LEADCITE, since most of the content in the lead is not actually cited elsewhere in the article, we have to keep the citations there for now, or otherwise it would fail WP:V. I'm not entirely sure how to fix that at the moment, but expanding the "Development" section (which is definitely the weakest one IMO) to include a more general overview of the history of Roblox might help, and would also help with the other problems with that section. I am fairly sure, from looking at a few prominent articles, that References are supposed to be above external links though. Devonian Wombat (talk) 03:46, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
- Devonian Wombat, sorry for replying so late! Apologies I was viewing on mobile and got confused by the references, you are correct on that front. The reason there shouldn't be citations in the lead is that the lead is meant to relay information already said in the article, but this is not a huge problem. Good job on massively improving this article (really comparing the current article from when you first edited it and now is astounding)! — Yours, Berrely • Talk∕Contribs 09:19, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
- I suggest splitting the Erik Cassel article from ROBLOX; Why on earth is Erik Cassel not a separate article? Erik is a vital person to ROBLOX's history, and articles like Alex Balfanz, Uplift Games or Adopt Me! have already been developed without any questioning from the community, so the Erik Cassel page should also be a separate one from ROBLOX. This does not deserve to be a redirect page. It's way more important than that. He also doesn't have a minor appearance like the developers mentioned in this, he literally was one of the creators of the game. MatEditzWiki (talk 15:03, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- Notability is not inherited. Every topic is evaluated separately. For Erik Cassel to have an article, reliable secondary sourcing that meets WP:GNG must be provided. -- ferret (talk) 15:10, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- Good source for Erik Cassel's huge involvement in Roblox - [1][2] I believe these two together at minimum are sufficient reliable secondary sources. Countless articles from large outlets mention and build upon this trove of information. Shredux (talk) 23:06, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
- Notability is not inherited. Every topic is evaluated separately. For Erik Cassel to have an article, reliable secondary sourcing that meets WP:GNG must be provided. -- ferret (talk) 15:10, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- User:Berrely, I've implemented a couple of your suggestions, there is a bit of a problem with LEADCITE, since most of the content in the lead is not actually cited elsewhere in the article, we have to keep the citations there for now, or otherwise it would fail WP:V. I'm not entirely sure how to fix that at the moment, but expanding the "Development" section (which is definitely the weakest one IMO) to include a more general overview of the history of Roblox might help, and would also help with the other problems with that section. I am fairly sure, from looking at a few prominent articles, that References are supposed to be above external links though. Devonian Wombat (talk) 03:46, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
References
- ^ Russell, Melia. "The lesser-known cofounder of $45 billion Roblox was the architect of its blazing success and the 'nicest guy'". Business Insider. Retrieved 2022-03-10.
- ^ "10 Facts You Didn't Know About The Making Of Roblox". TheGamer. 2021-02-06. Retrieved 2022-03-10.
Joey Kuras, the actual creator.
Mr. Tallarico, who's been known to be something of an absolute braggart, lied about the creation of the "Oof" sound. http://joeykuras.com/credits/ https://venturebeat.com/2019/06/22/robloxs-famous-oof-death-sound-allegedly-came-from-a-tommy-tallarico-game/ Here is evidence and articles which should sufficiently prove this. The only credit that Tallarico potentally has is the ownership of the sound library, as Joey Kuras was an employee of Tallarico Studios at the time of Messiah's creation. 2601:540:8200:135:2B28:91AD:BE72:32B8 (talk) 02:45, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- While the latter article does state that the audio file is credited to Kuras, it also states that Kuras and Tallarico have collaborated, so it would be original research to use these sources to state that Tallarico is trying to steal credit from Kuras. All we can state as a matter of fact is that the Roblox Corporation and Tallarico entered a dispute regarding the well-known "oof" sound effect, and that it resulted the platform removing the sound. Vanilla Wizard 💙 23:17, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- I've slightly modified the language to clarify that the creation of the audio file is credited to Tallarico Studios (the original wording claimed that it was produced by Tallarico himself). I'll still want more secondary sources before going further and publishing a version that reads that it was created by Joey Kuras because many sources published around the time of the dispute between Tallarico and Roblox don't clarify this well enough, but the new language is at least more accurate based on the information we have readily available. Vanilla Wizard 💙 02:27, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
Roblox Developer Conference
Can someone fix the Roblox Developer Conference(RDC) section? It's incorrectly spelled multiple times as "Roblox Developers Conference". Along with that, it is stated that "content creators" are invited, most people consider content creators as YouTubers, streamers, etc. Although in the last RDC, YouTubers and other influencers were invited, it was still mostly developer based. RealColdshot (talk) 14:24, 30 September 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by RealColdshot (talk • contribs)
- No, "Developers" is correct, this can even be seen in the logo. "Content creators" is also correct. Games are content, as are virtual items such as UGC (user-generated content) clothing items. Vanilla Wizard 💙 17:12, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
Seperate article for Roblox Studio
I created a section on the talk page for the Roblox Studio redirect. I think that this is a discussion worth viewing, as the game engine seems notable enough for a seperate article. slo double 4 (talk) 18:58, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
- Respectfully, the way Wikipedia determines which articles are notable enough for inclusion is through the use of reliable, secondary sources. Secondary meaning that the source must be separate from the subject itself. It looks like the only sources in your draft Roblox Studio article are primary ones, such as the Luau website and Luau GitHub repository. If you could find online articles written about Roblox Studio itself as a game engine, that would help to establish the independent notability of Roblox Studio as a subject. As of right now, it seems that Roblox Studio is a topic inseparable from Roblox itself. One way a topic can merit splitting from a main article is if the sub-section about the topic gets long enough that it'd help the reader to split it off into a new page, but the section on Roblox Studio here is only one paragraph long, and it seems to contain more information than the draft you submitted to AfC. Vanilla Wizard 💙 08:51, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
Merging my article into the Roblox Studio section
My AfC submission for my Roblox Studio article was declined (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Slo44/Roblox_Studio), but it seems that I am able to merge it into this article, is this possible? slo double 4 (talk) 19:35, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
Categorizing Roblox as a Game
As the first line of the pages states, it is an "online game platform and game creation system". While it lets you play games, it is not a game itself. Should it still be categorized as a game or should the categories categorizing it as a game be removed/modified? DemonStalker (talk) 01:34, 2 April 2023 (UTC)