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  • Zellner, William W. (2007). "Church of Scientology: Social Positions". Extraordinary Groups: An Examination of Unconventional Lifestyles. Worth Publishers. pp. 296–297. ISBN 0716770342. {{cite book}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)

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Just wanted to get someone's attention about the external links for this page. Those links linking to "Keith Relkin" now go to a blog that has no content. Any input on how to fix this?Matipop (talk) 23:17, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Should the page be renamed to Scientology and homosexuality?

The article is actually about homosexuality, not sexual orientation in general. Apokrif (talk) 03:18, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 8 August 2021

Scientology and sexual orientation → Scientologist views on homosexuality – Per above, the article is actually about Scientologist views on homosexuality not sexual orientation in general. Also, sometimes WP:AND is necessary in article titles, but in this case it just leads to unnecessary vagueness about the article's actual topic and is inconsistent with other articles on "Religious views on ____". (t · c) buidhe 11:58, 8 August 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 18:29, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

— Advertised at WikiProject Scientology.--18:37, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
— Advertised at WikiProject LGBT studies.--18:37, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Neutral At first I was sceptical. I assumed that the article would cover their views on bisexuality, pansexuality and asexuality as well as homosexuality, thus justifying the current broader title. After checking the article I see that none of those are even mentioned, so I guess I'm neutral on changing "sexual orientation" to "homosexuality" if there really is nothing to say on those other subjects. Replacing "Scientology and" with "Scientologist views on" does seems like a small but worthwhile improvement though. --DanielRigal (talk) 19:00, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Scientology and LGBT+ Kate Bornstein has published extensively about being in the church, having periods of practicing various sexual behavior, and doing a gender transition through it. This person talks about how the church reacted to all this. There is the potential to talk about sexuality and gender in addition to just orientation. I recognize that the article does not currently contain content for this, though, and also Bornstein's stories are dated and not a reflection of the church's changes over the decades. Blue Rasberry (talk) 16:24, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I would prefer sticking with a name that accurately reflects the current scope of the article rather than preemptively retitling in anticipation of a possible expansion of scope later down the line. If someone does later want to add content about the church's views on gender identity they may find it makes more sense to do so in a separate article (depending on the degree of overlap in sourcing between the two sub-topics). Colin M (talk) 16:58, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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