Template talk:Did you know
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Using a DYK suggestion string (see below examples), list new suggestions in the candidate entries section below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any user may nominate a DYK suggestion; self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination. Every approved hook will appear on the main page.
DYK criteria
How to list a new nomination
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Please use one of the strings below to post your DYK nomination, using the "author" and "nominator" fields to identify the users who should receive credit for their contributions if the hook is featured on the main page.
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Older nominations
Articles created/expanded on 30 June
W. J. Gordy
- ... that W. J. Gordy was a highly influential potter in the 20th century, once mentioned as the "foremost potter in the southeastern United States" by the Encyclopædia Britannica?
- Comment: Forgot to nominate this orphaned article.
Created by LynGirl (talk). Nominated by FMasic (talk) at 18:39, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, DYK is for recently expanded or created articles, within the last 5 (or so) days. 28bytes (talk) 19:28, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 16
Awaaz Foundation
... that it was Awaaz Foundation’s advocacy against noise pollution in India that forced the government to make rules and implement it?
Created by Sachinvenga (talk). Self nom at 15:33, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
The article, like the hook, needs a serious copy edit before it can be reviewed. Yoninah (talk) 23:22, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
- OK, Please give me some time. -- . Shlok talk . 13:50, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. I did an even more thorough copy edit, and found that many of the references are just newspaper or court articles about an event, which do not show any connection between Awaaz's advocacy and the adoption of new laws (for example, see footnote 17). Could you please review the references and take out any that don't apply to what you've written, and add references to back up each paragraph in your article?
- Here is a stronger version of the hook, which needs a reference:
- ALT1: ... that the Awaaz Foundation has successfully petitioned both local and state governments in India to impose stricter noise pollution laws? Yoninah (talk) 16:30, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 17
Johnny Dyer
- ... that the American electric blues harmonicist, Johnny Dyer, on his Rolling Fork Revisited album, did reworkings of songs by another Rolling Fork native, Muddy Waters?
Created by Derek R Bullamore (talk). Self nom at 20:49, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
Hook fact requires a supporting citation in the article. Source cited in the article for the hook fact ([1]) makes no mention of Muddy Waters and in fact contains no analysis of the album, just a listing of song tracks and production credits. --Allen3 talk 18:05, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- I am not too sure how specific I need to be. The song listing gives songwriter credit for most tracks to 'Morganfield'. A click on that name leads to McKinley Morganfield, which was (as the article states) Muddy Waters' real name. As far as I am aware, Waters used his real name for all his songwriter credits. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 19:22, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- I've added a ref confirming that the album is a collection of Muddy Waters' songs. Ghmyrtle (talk) 14:10, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- I am not too sure how specific I need to be. The song listing gives songwriter credit for most tracks to 'Morganfield'. A click on that name leads to McKinley Morganfield, which was (as the article states) Muddy Waters' real name. As far as I am aware, Waters used his real name for all his songwriter credits. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 19:22, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Fluorescent glucose biosensors
- ... that the prevalence of diabetes is the prime drive in the development of biosensors, such as Fluorescent glucose biosensors?
Created by Squidonius (talk). Self nom at 01:13, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
This is some article creation! A few problems though, two paragraphs in "Theory of fluorescence" and the last paragraph in "Encapsulation in dialysis membranes" has no citations. Also, the hook in the lead has no citation as well.--NortyNort (Holla) 08:16, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 18
Birtoxin, Bestoxin
- ... that the venom of the South African Spitting scorpion (pictured) contains the neurotoxins birtoxin and bestoxin?
- Comment: Birtoxin is late by 1 minute (time of first edit= 23:59, Oct.17, UTC). I hope it's okay. --PFHLai (talk) 16:49, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Created by Zhanmin (talk), Sander.lindeman (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 16:49, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Nidaros (newspaper); Bør Børson
- ... that Johan Falkberget's satirical story Bør Børson was a feuilleton in the newspaper Nidaros before being released as a book?
5x expanded by Oceanh (talk), Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 13:36, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
The article states it was printed as a "series" in Nidaros.--NortyNort (Holla) 08:28, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- I thought a serial story, or a serialized novel, meant the same as feuilleton. Have changed the word to feuilleton to avoid confusion. Oceanh (talk) 14:25, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
I guess a feuilleton can be in a series. Both verified, AGF of the offline reference.--NortyNort (Holla) 21:40, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Posthumous Fragments of Margaret Nicholson
- ... that the Posthumous Fragments of Margaret Nicholson was a hoax collection of poems, actually written by Shelley and Hogg, in which they attacked the concept of monarchy??
Created by 76.234.154.210 (talk). Nominated by Chzz (talk) at 20:24, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
only a 2x expansion in prose, not 5x — Rlevse • Talk • 13:12, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
List of Shakespeare authorship candidates
- ... that Queen Elizabeth and King James are among the 75 people who have been nominated as the true author of the William Shakespeare plays (pictured)?
- ALT1:... that Francis Bacon and Christopher Marlowe are among the people who have been nominated as the true author of the William Shakespeare plays (pictured)?
5x expanded by Tom Reedy (talk). Self nom at 18:23, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Prose size is only 386 characters. Please note that "list" items in a list article do not count towards the 1500 characters required. See WP:WIADYK for more info. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:32, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
I think the biggest problem with this list article was summed up by user:hamiltonstone when he wrote (see point 8) "no one should be on this list without a citation that demonstrates that the person is in fact proposed by a reliable source to be a candidate for the authorship. Not even one in five now meet that very basic requirement. Only if their candidacy has some significant coverage in the literature should it then be discussed in the article's body text."
- Most of these candidates come from a list found in one source, and that source failed to even discuss these candidates. Many others seem to be OR. It seems that the minimum requirement should be precisely what was already noted above - "Only if their candidacy has some significant coverage" - The great majority of so-called candidates on this list fail miserably on that basic requirement. Smatprt (talk) 20:04, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- Looking at the source further, this issue only gets worse - it appears this source only goes into any real detail on one candidate, not the 58 represented in this list article. Good grief. Smatprt (talk) 20:13, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- I fail to see why it is relevant that the "source only goes into any real detail on one candidate, not the 58 represented in this list article.". The list is a list of all those who are known to have been proposed. At least one of them (Anne Whateley) almost certainly didn't even exist. But that's neither here nor there really. Paul B (talk) 12:01, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
- Paul, it's no great mystery why it's being disparaged and a comment being dragged in from another discussion, but all sources are WP:RS and prominently discuss the authorship topic, not just as a passing mention. Tom Reedy (talk) 12:30, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
- The remark that it failed to satisfy Hamiltonstone's observation is wrong. HS made that of a draft version, and, if I recall, in forking off this article TReedy then supplied the footnotes, as HStone asked for. (b)There is no WP:OR infraction involved (c) I see there is a problem with the wordage. That is easy to fix, simply by introducing a modified, rewrite of the usual introductory paragraph that exists on several other pages, but unfortunately the three editors are voluntarily refraining from editing mainspace pages until an arbtration issue is resolved, if ever! (d) Most importantly, for your consideration, this figure was established, as far as we know, by wiki, is the most up-to-date figure available to date, since the old sources couldn't count what has occurred since 2004, and missed a few. We simply totalled up what all reliable sources established as candidates, and the figure is 75. That is not WP:OR, but simply fidelity, as per notes, to the available lists and references. It is a wiki first, and would, I think, be a shame not to get profiled eventually in a DYK notice, given the world's fascination with Shakespeare. Nishidani (talk) 13:11, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
- I have adapted the current intro to the main SAQ article for use as a preamble to the list. I hope it is acceptable. Paul B (talk) 14:09, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
To respond about the notability of the various candidates, the great majority of these listed were simply copied from one list (in one source) directly into this article. That in itself does no make them notable. How many of these candidacies have been discussed in detail... anywhere? Just because one person, somewhere in time, in an interview, or a bar, or in some passing comment said "I think that so and so wrote Shakespeare's plays" - well, that hardly makes the candidate notable as required on these pages. Smatprt (talk) 15:21, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
- That is simply answered. 68 of the 75 candidates have wiki pages on them. All, except Ann Whately, were notable in their day, and history has decided they are notable now. We don't make conjectures over why things are included in sources: we simply cull the best sources on a question, and harvest it for wiki. It is not our fault if the academic specialists on the subject cite that number of candidates. I repeat, this is a wiki first, as far as I know of, and that, I think, on its own, is important in considering whether this should figure as a DYK.Nishidani (talk) 16:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
It is not necessary to cite the original nominations, as most of them are non-RS anyway. The list is from an impeccable academic source that discusses authorship in a prominent way, and as such conforms to WP:RS. All the other names are sourced from reliable sources, although they're not all necessarily academic works, as is the source he is challenging in a misunderstanding of WP:RS. And their credibility is beside the point. None of their cases are credible by scholarly, academic standards. An infinite number of zeros = zero. Tom Reedy (talk) 16:41, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Date and prose size (now at 3243 characters) are fine. However, the hook fact does not have an inline citation. As for the above concerns, I'll leave it for others more knowledgeable on the subject to decide their merits. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:30, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
In answer to Nishidani, I'm afraid its not that simple - that the individuals are themselves notable is hardly a valid reason for them to appear in this article. Are they a notable candidate? (That is the question). Tom admits that most of the candidacies are from non-RS sources. In any case, a simple search in google scholar would probably settle this. Simply take each name along with "Shakespeare authorship" (or some such) and see what the results are. Then reference the actual source. If the results support your assertion, then I will gladly withdraw my opposition. Otherwise, you are just copying one list into another. Smatprt (talk) 23:35, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
- No, I did not say that. The article is sourced from WP:RS sources. They were all 75 of them nominated in non-RS sources, including the "notable" ones such as Oxford, Marlowe, et al, because by their nature as fringe promotional material they cannot be considered RS. Those nominations were then written about in RS journals, books and magazines, which are all used to reference the article. Whether the nominees themselves are "notable" as Shakespeare candidates is beside the point. The title of the article is not List of notable Shakespeare authorship candidates.
- I hope that makes it clear. BTW, this is not the place for an authorship discussion or polemics. Tom Reedy (talk) 23:43, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, Tom, everyone is aware that you would like to stifle my participation on these pages. Be that as it may, are you saying that any candidate, no matter how far-fetched, and no matter if any mainstream critic ever detailed their candidacy (the way they have for some in this article), that they all belong on this list? Smatprt (talk) 00:58, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
- Of course thery do. The list is supposed to be as complete as possible. That's the whole point of it. Paul B (talk) 12:10, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, Tom, everyone is aware that you would like to stifle my participation on these pages. Be that as it may, are you saying that any candidate, no matter how far-fetched, and no matter if any mainstream critic ever detailed their candidacy (the way they have for some in this article), that they all belong on this list? Smatprt (talk) 00:58, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Doyers Street (Manhattan)
- ... that Doyers Street, in New York City's Chinatown, once known as the "Bloody Angle," was notorious for having more murders than any other street in the U.S.?
- ALT1... that Doyers Street, in New York City's Chinatown, was known as the "Bloody Angle" because of frequent gang murders early in the 20th Century?
5x expanded by ScottyBerg (talk). Self nom at 14:08, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- Length, sourcing and expansion for article and hook have been verified. Can I toss in ALT2 "... that the term "hatchet man" originated from the weapon of choice used in killings on Chinatown's Doyers Street, known as the "Bloody Angle" for its frequent gang murders early in the 20th Century?" Alansohn (talk) 03:32, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
U.S. Post Office (Le Roy, New York)
- ... that a local resident paid part of the construction cost of the Le Roy, New York, post office (pictured)?
- ALT1:... that the clock tower and limestone facing on the Le Roy, New York, post office (pictured) are unique among small postal buildings in New York?
- Comment: Fivefold text expansion
Created/expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 19:47, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
Shouldn't the original hook state he donated the land, not paid for the construction?--NortyNort (Holla) 08:33, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Shapley–Folkman lemma
- ... that the "approximate convexity" of the Minkowski sum of nonconvex sets is quantified by the Shapley–Folkman lemma?
Created/expanded by David Eppstein (talk). Nominated by Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) at 15:57, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- I've added the essential "that" at the start of the hook. Also, I like this unusual style, it's nice to have some variety even if the hook itself isn't immediately understandable to most readers including myself. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:50, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- David Eppstein's custom-made (& donated) graphic is the finest illustration of the Shapley–Folkman lemma in world literature. (Note my earlier nomination of this article, with the existing picture of Kenneth J. Arrow, before David included his graphic.) Thanks, Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 22:09, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
This seemed to have been nominated by KW twice (?!) so I've merged the sections and made the second hook an ALT. No opinion on which is better. Smartse (talk) 23:04, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
- The above DYK nomination with Eppstein's graphic has a more substantive hook and relevant graphic, so it should appear.
- On the other hand, it may be that more Wikipedia readers would look at the article through the Ken Arrow picture & hook, because the latter DYK hook is simple and Ken Arrow is a hero to thousands or perhaps millions. (Please note that Eppstein created the SF graphic after I had nominated the article using the Ken Arrow hook & picture.) Thanks, Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 12:13, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
ALT1 ... that Starr's corollary to the Shapley–Folkman lemma was proved by an undergraduate student of Kenneth Arrow?
Jon Folkman
- ... that Paul Erdős (pictured) challenged Jon Folkman to solve mathematical problems immediately after Folkman's surgery for brain cancer?
Created by David Eppstein (talk). Nominated by Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) at 10:48, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. Not sure if the picture is really effective for this hook. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 22:43, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Jim Fuchs
- ... that during two years in the early 1950s American Jim Fuchs won 88 consecutive meets and set four world records in the shot put?
5x expanded by Sholom (talk), Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 22:56, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
- Alternative: that while competing in the shot put for 14 months in 1949–1950, American Jim Fuchs won 88 consecutive meets and set four world records? Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 21:57, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
In the reference, I am having trouble connecting that all 88 of these meets were within that two year span. Also, where did 14 months instead of two years come from? --NortyNort (Holla) 09:10, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- Article has been reworded and source has been revised to better support the hook, which has been reworded. Alansohn (talk) 14:52, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
List of Chinese military texts
- ... that Chinese military texts have influenced strategists ranging from members of the Communist Party of China to former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld?
Created by Hongkongresident (talk). Self nom at 22:53, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
The reference for the hook, citation #2 is a book but you don't list a page number for where the information was derived from.--NortyNort (Holla) 08:38, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for notifying me. Page number has now been added.--hkr Laozi speak 21:34, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
James Clark (physician)
- ... that Sir James Clark (pictured), physician to Queen Victoria, has been implicated in contributing to the deaths of both John Keats and Lady Flora Hastings?
Created by Ghmyrtle (talk). Self nom at 22:28, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
Length and sourcing for article and hook have been confirmed. I offer ALT1 "... that physician Sir James Clark (pictured) is said to have contributed to the agonising death of poet John Keats by putting him on a starvation diet consisting of a single anchovy and a piece of bread a day?" Alansohn (talk) 03:49, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- No objection from me if that is preferred. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:26, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Francisco Vicente de la Espriella
- ... that the first Foreign Minister of Panama, Francisco Vicente de la Espriella, is the great grandfather of former Costa Rican president I aAbel Pacheco?
Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 19:29, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
Everything looks good but the most of the references aren't formatted properly. I added president in the hook too.--NortyNort (Holla) 08:57, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Round Church, Preslav
... that the 10th-century Round Church (pictured) in the medieval Bulgarian capital Preslav has been called "one of the most impressive monuments of medieval Bulgarian architecture"?
Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Self nom at 19:16, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: Hook ref towards the end of "Background".
- ALT1: ... that the 10th-century Round Church (pictured) in the medieval Bulgarian capital of Preslav features a monumental westwork claimed to be a Carolingian influence?
- Comment: Hook ref towards the end of "Location and style".
- ALT2: ... that the interior of the 10th-century Round Church (pictured) in the medieval Bulgarian capital of Preslav features medieval inscriptions in three alphabets and two languages?
- Comment: Hook ref in the first paragraph of "Epigraphy".
- — Toдor Boжinov — 19:23, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
Date, length OK. Foreign-language hook refs AGF. Sorry, I'm a little tired of these "most impressive" hooks. ALT1 and ALT2 say a lot more; personally, I prefer ALT2, and added "two languages" from the article. Nice article. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 09:48, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Venues of the 1948 Winter Olympics
- ... that all five venues of the 1928 Winter Olympics in St. Moritz were reused as venues when the Winter Olympics returned to the city twenty years later?
Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 14:57, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
The article checks in at 1,412 characters, just short of the required 1,500. I'm sure the article can be expanded to put it over the bare minimum. Alansohn (talk) 03:53, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- More characters added per request. Chris (talk) 21:57, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Current nominations
Articles created/expanded on October 19
Triflin
- ... that the venom of a Habu snake (pictured) contains triflin, a cysteine-rich secretory protein which reduces the contraction of smooth muscles?
Created by SKambizLMvanMegen (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 11:37, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 14:00, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- Please hold. I'll see if I can make this a compound DYK hook. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 17:56, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Triflin, Piscivorin, Ophanin, Ablomin
- ... that ophanin, piscivorin, ablomin and triflin found in the venom of the King Cobra (pictured), the water moccasin, the Mamushi snake, and the Habu snake, respectively, are all cysteine-rich secretory proteins that can reduce muscle contractions?
Created by Millesya (talk · contribs), Jstedehouder (talk · contribs), Danyasimone (talk · contribs) & SKambizLMvanMegen (talk · contribs), respectively.
- Comment: Ablomin may be a few days older, but they all appear to be assignments from the same zoology class. Latisemin may be a 5th one, but this wikipage needs about 450 characters for DYK purposes. --PFHLai (talk) 18:32, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Mayor of Invercargill
- ... that the incumbent Mayor of Invercargill, Tim Shadbolt (pictured), is currently the longest serving mayor in New Zealand?
- Comment: Moved into mainspace on 19 October; nominated on 24 October (New Zealand time; deduct a day of each date if you look at UTC times).
Created by Schwede66 (talk), Daveosaurus (talk). Self nom at 17:47, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Ready to go. Adabow (talk · contribs) 19:34, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Bubsy 3D
- ... that Bubsy 3D is considered one of the worst video games of all time?
Created by New Age Retro Hippie (talk). Self nom at 08:48, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- I've formatted the hook so that it has links and shows the new article in bold. I suggest you use the nomination guide for your next nomination to avoid these problems. Schwede66 17:54, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Age and size are fine. When I follow the reference, I get to see the games' score, but not that it is considered one of the worst video games of all times. In fact, when I browsed the website that holds those scores, I found this list, which appears to have scores far lower than Bubsy 3D. Can you please clarify, and find something that confirms the hook fact? Alternatively, you could come up with a different hook. Schwede66 18:09, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- Well, the GameTrailers and Seanbaby links list it as one of the worst (for reference, the Seanbaby.com article was published in Electronic Gaming Monthly), at eighth and 17th respectively. If the Game Rankings score is too conflicting with that, however, I could change the hook to be that it was one of the first video games to use 3D graphics. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 19:40, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Derrick Locke
- ... that University of Kentucky running back Derrick Locke set the Oklahoma high school record in the long jump?
Created by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 05:57, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Needs work before approval; article has no citations and is
>< 1500 characters, currently at 1470.--NortyNort (Holla) 08:43, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- I just added a sentence to the lead, which should make it > 1500 characters. The hook is cited in the article; the reason why I only cited that one sentence is because the rest of the article is covered by the links in the "External links" section. - PM800 (talk) 10:40, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- Ok, well the article should have citations. It will be linked on the main page. Citations are for verifiability, and when the article is expanded in the future, it helps other editors verify the information and ensure it is cited properly. Overall, I have never myself approved a nomination with so little citations, even as anal retentive as it may seem in this case.--NortyNort (Holla) 11:02, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, good point. I've now added citations to every paragraph. - PM800 (talk) 19:32, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Nice, it is good to go now, good job.--NortyNort (Holla) 21:32, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Dual system of government
- ... that Cho-sid-nyi means means "both Dharma and temporal" but may also be translated as "dual system of religion and politics"?
Created by JFHJr (talk). Nominated by Spongie555 (talk) at , 22 October 2010 (UTC)
I am unable to find a reference to this translation in any of the 3 citations you provided. Yoninah (talk) 14:23, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Charles Coffin Harris
- ... that New Hampshire-born Charles Coffin Harris (pictured), who served as cabinet minister and judge in the Kingdom of Hawaii, also had a business selling fern hair?
Created by W Nowicki (talk). Self nom at 22:33, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Date, length, hook ref all verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 14:28, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Venues of the 1948 Summer Olympics
... that two venues of the 1948 Summer Olympics served as host venues for the 1908 Summer Olympics while two more 1948 Summer Olympics venues will serve as host venues for the 2012 Summer Olympics?
- ALT1: ... that cars were brought into the Empire Stadium venue to illuminate the last two decathlon events at the 1948 Summer Olympics?
Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 14:52, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. I like your more descriptive hooks. Tweaked ALT1 and it's good to go. Yoninah (talk) 14:51, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Howard Russell Butler
- ... that Howard Russell Butler (pictured), who persuaded Andrew Carnegie to build Princeton's rowing lake, was later employed to paint a solar eclipse in 1918?
- Comment: alts welcome for this renaissance man
Created/expanded by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 13:19, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- I have worked on Solar eclipse of June 8, 1918 which was an odd article. It was about 200 chars of text and then lots of boilerplate text and pics called in. See it yesterday. If you agree that its "expanded" then bold it so readers can see the "new" article - if not then its fine as it is.Victuallers (talk) 16:41, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Gonzalo García Gudiel
- ... that the "chivalrous" request of Cardinal Gonzalo García Gudiel that his body be brought his native city of Toledo for burial, and its fulfillment by his former scribe, forms the starting point for a contemporary romance?
Created by Srnec (talk). Self nom at 04:47, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. But the hook is over 200 char. How about:
- ALT1: ... that the body of Cardinal Gonzalo García Gudiel, returning from Rome to his native Toledo, was reportedly greeted in the streets by a delighted crowd of Christians, Jews and Muslims? Yoninah (talk) 15:05, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Athletics at the 1952 Summer Olympics – Men's shot put
- ... that Parry O'Brien won the gold medal in the men's shot put at the 1952 Summer Olympics in Helsinki as part of a 4-year long streak in which he won 116 consecutive meets and set 17 world records?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 01:26, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Date, length, hook ref all verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:30, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Henry Sandham
- ... that Canadian artist Henry Sandham (pictured) won an award at the 1878 Exposition Universelle for a composite photograph consisting of 300 separate pictures?
Created by Howcheng (talk). Self nom at 00:22, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Length and sourcing for article and hook all check out. Alansohn (talk) 03:58, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Naheed Nenshi
- ... that Naheed Nenshi became the first Muslim mayor of a major Canadian city when he was elected mayor of Calgary in the 2010 civic election?
5x expanded by Resolute (talk). Self nom at 00:18, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- Expansion from redirect, credit should also go to User:Bdell555 if this is promoted.
Note that I have also nominated it at WP:ITN, though I'd be a tad surprised if it got promoted there.Resolute 00:18, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- ALT: "... that Calgary's new mayor Naheed Nenshi successfully used social media websites to score a surprise win in the 2010 municipal election?" (This seems the more important legacy of his campaign and vote) Resolute 13:57, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Bjørnsletta (station)
... that Bjørnsletta Station of the Oslo Metro is so named because a bear was spotted there in 1852?
5x expanded by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 22:24, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
- thanks Victuallers (talk) 13:25, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Excuse me for expressing concerns over an already reviewed article. The hook may be catchy, but it's in many ways inaccurate. First of all, to me "there" implies that a bear was spotted at the station, which is obviously untrue. Also, the station wasn't really named so because of the bear spotting: the area was named after the bear spotting, and in turn the station was named after the area. Finally, the hook says "a bear" was spotted, wheareas the article speaks of "bears". Which is true? — Toдor Boжinov — 16:52, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- To take the first thing last: in Norwegian (which the source is in) it is not possible to distinguish between a bear and several bears (at least not the way the source is written). For the rest, how about " ... that Bjørnsletta Station of the Oslo Metro was named for a bear sighting in 1852?" Not quite as catchy, so I've you've got a better idea up your sleeve, feel free to play it. Arsenikk (talk) 17:46, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- Ah, the lack of a different plural form in Norwegian never occurred to me. "Bear sighting" is a clever getaway :) There's still the confusion that the station was directly named after the event rather than after the surrounding area though. I would suggest something like "... that the name of Bjørnsletta Station of the Oslo Metro is ultimately derived from a bear sighting in 1852?". We're losing even more catchiness, but at least in my book factual accuracy is always more important. — Toдor Boжinov — 18:19, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- Its a bit obsessive... whats the difference between "derived" "ultimately derived" and "named after" ... factual accuracy is important in articles, IMO hooks can make do with being merely true.... and there was a bear there in 1852. Whether it had family and friends present or was about to catch a metro train the hook does not say. Victuallers (talk) 13:03, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Yes, but the hook was not true to begin with. "There" cannot mean anything but the station in the original hook, and there was no station in 1852 for a bear to be spotted *there*. Having reread the paragraph, there's actually no area/residential neighbourhood/whatever named Bjørnsletta (I don't know where I got that), so the station is directly named after the bear spotting. I'm verifying the alt hook (Google Translate for ref) and striking the original. — Toдor Boжinov — 07:56, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
BSA A65 Star
- ... that in 1967 the BSA A65 Star (pictured) helped BSA win a Queens Award to Industry and by 1969 BSA were responsible for 80% of the British motorcycles exported?
Created by Thruxton (talk). Self nom at 17:16, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
I think we are stretching the meaning of "helped" as it implies "caused" but OK Victuallers (talk) 13:27, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Super Skidmarks
- ... that the video game Super Skidmarks allowed players to race caravans and wheeled cows?
Created by Bridies (talk). Self nom at 16:28, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
Is there any real-world application/connection that can be applied to this hook?--NortyNort (Holla) 08:47, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- Magazines commented on it, which I would have thought was enough. Alternatively something about the 8-player link mode would be fine I guess. bridies (talk) 09:48, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that the ability to have eight people play simultaneously on Super Skidmarks “elevates the game to near divine status”?--NortyNort (Holla) 11:11, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
1366 Technologies
- ... that 1366 Technologies has created a technique to cast solar cells directly from molten silicon, cutting costs for such cells by 40% and making power generated using the cells cheaper than from coal?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:08, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
I'm not really happy that the "making power generated using the cells cheaper than from coal" is referenced to the company president - of course he is going to say that! I'm pretty sure that solar cells are currently far above 40% more expensive than coal. Maybe I'm overly strict, but the whole article is rather advert like at present IMO. Smartse (talk) 21:16, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what to say. I can assure you that I have no connection to the company other than being fascinated by an article about the firm published in The New York Times and had enough interest in the subject to create an article. I will try to conceive of an alternate hook. Alansohn (talk) 22:24, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- I wasn't suggesting that you are linked to the company, just that we need to be careful be repeat a company's claims without checking them to see if they are realistic. Are there any more independent sources that have comments from people unrelated to the company, but knowledgable in the field? I'm just always a bit suspicious when there is a sudden flurry of news articles, as they are almost certainly based on press releases from the company, and the journalists might not have done much research themselves. I'd welcome anyone else's comments, as like I said before, I may be overly strict when it comes to things like this. Smartse (talk) 00:50, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
- I see you're going through the article and an additional pair of eyes is always appreciated. I tried to include multiple sources to address any imbalance that might appear in a single source, but I will work on better sourcing and an alternate hook. Alansohn (talk) 01:06, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Melvin Lane Powers
- ... that in "one of the most spectacular homicide trials ever", a jury acquitted Melvin Lane Powers and his aunt – and lover – Candy Mossler for the murder of her husband?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 03:47, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
Some changes were made to the article by another editor which seem to mess things up. Could you correct it and then I'll review it? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 15:11, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- Edits in question have been reverted. Alansohn (talk) 15:15, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- Date, length, hook ref verified. Just wondering what you think about this alt hook:
- ALT1: ... that after a jury acquitted them in the murder of her husband, Candy Mossler and Melvin Lane Powers kissed each other on the lips and drove off in a gold Cadillac?
Metacarcinus starri
- ... that the extinct crab Metacarcinus starri from Washington state is related to the graceful rock crab?
5x expanded by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 00:36, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
5x expansion verified. Date, length, hook ref verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:23, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Mary Malcolm
- ... that Mary Malcolm, one of the BBC’s first female announcers, was a granddaughter of Victorian actress Lily Langtry, mistress of King Edward VII of England?
Created by Philg88 (talk). Self nom at 02:56, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:07, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 20
Jacob P. Perry House
- ... that the Jacob P. Perry House (pictured) in Pearl River, New York, is one of the few post-Revolutionary Dutch Colonial houses in Rockland County built in a prewar style?
5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 22:03, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Achany
- ... that the most northerly outpost of Harrods is located in a former tourist information office in the Scottish Highlands between Achany Forest and Shin Falls?
5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 19:28, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
HMS Esperance (1795)
- ... that the official proclamation of the abolition of slavery by the French government in 1794 was delivered to the Caribbean colony of Saint-Domingue (present-day Haiti) by the corvette Esperance?
Created by Acad Ronin (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 17:16, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Getu Feleke
- ... that Ethiopian long-distance runner Getu Feleke set a new course record when he won the 2010 Amsterdam Marathon earlier this month?
Created by Sillyfolkboy (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 10:14, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Date, length, and hook reference all check out. First Light (talk) 19:13, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Sprinkles Cupcakes
- ... that Sprinkles Cupcakes is credited with pioneering a worldwide cupcake bakery craze?
Created by Nicolesprinkles (talk). Nominated by Goodvac (talk) at 23:11, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Since the above hook could be considered spammy, I've switched to the one below:
- ... that sales at Sprinkles Cupcakes increased 50% after the store was featured on The Oprah Winfrey Show? Created by Nicolesprinkles (talk). Nominated by Goodvac (talk) at 06:14, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Lamparello v. Falwell
- ... that in Lamparello v. Falwell, Jerry Falwell lost one of the earliest cases of trademark infringement based on cybersquatting?
Created by LisaFowler (talk). Nominated by TJRC (talk) at 20:54, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
- suggested rephrase: that in Lamparello v. Falwell, Jerry Falwell's attempt to take down a gripe site resulted in a significant case for domain name use and trademark law? LisaFowler (talk) 21:59, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Jacob Hyer
- ... that boxer Jacob Hyer has been called "The Father of the American Ring" although he broke his arm in his only match, in 1816?
Created by Milowent (talk). Self nom at 17:06, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Ardelve
5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), PamD (talk), and Iridescent (talk). Self nom at 13:13, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
- Img added and title corrected
Achanalt
- ... that Sir Arthur Bignold, MP for Wick Burghs was the proprietor of the Achanalt Inn?
5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 11:31, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Adobe Systems, Inc. v. Southern Software, Inc
- ... that Adobe Systems, Inc. has successfully sued for the copyright infringement of a computer font, even though typefaces are not protected under U.S. copyright law?
Created by ToastIsTasty (talk). Self nom at 23:33, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Wesley Bennett
- ... that Wesley Bennett scored 21 points to lead Westminster College to a 37–33 victory over St. John's University in the opening game of the first college doubleheader played at Madison Square Garden?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 17:04, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Mac Morgan
- ... that in the requiem mass for John F. Kennedy in 1964 Mac Morgan performed the bass solo of Mozart's Requiem?
Created by 4meter4 (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 11:49, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
- (shorter) ... that in the requiem mass for John F. Kennedy, Mac Morgan performed the bass solo of Mozart's Requiem?
- Not sure Rockwell adds to hookiness and makes it tricky to read Victuallers (talk) 13:16, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for improved wording, comma removed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:54, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
- Cannot use pic of front page as fair use. (as noted by 4meter4). I have removed pictured. Victuallers (talk) 23:17, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
I Hear You, I See You
- ... that "I Hear You, I See You", the second season premiere of the comedy-drama series Parenthood, marked the first of several appearances by William Baldwin?
Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 03:17, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Brison D. Gooch
- ... that the historian Brison D. Gooch researched the Crimean War and concludes that Great Britain and France practically ignored their ally, the Ottoman Empire, in the two-year fight against Russia?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 02:32, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
My Week with Marilyn
- ... that Michelle Williams was the only actress that producers met with for the role of Marilyn Monroe during casting for the upcoming film, My Week with Marilyn?
- ALT1:... that Julia Ormond was given the role of Vivien Leigh in the upcoming film, My Week with Marilyn after Catherine Zeta-Jones turned it down?
5x expanded by JuneGloom07 (talk). Self nom at 22:01, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Princess Eugenia of Leuchtenberg
- ... that because his wife Princess Eugenia Maximilianovna (pictured) was a Russian princess, Duke Alexander of Oldenburg was the Russian nominee for the Bulgarian throne?
Created by Ruby2010 (talk) 21:56, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that despite her French title and ancestry, Princess Eugenia Maximilianovna of Leuchtenberg (pictured) was born and raised in Russia, and was entitled to the rank Imperial Highness?
Date and length verified, AGF on hook references. — Toдor Boжinov — 12:03, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Maxwell Street Jimmy Davis
- ... that American electric bluesman, Maxwell Street Jimmy Davis, remained a regular performer on Chicago's Maxwell Street for over 40 years?
Created by Derek R Bullamore (talk). Self nom at 20:26, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
St John the Baptist's Church, Wakerley
- ... that the capitals of the Norman chancel arch of St John the Baptist's Church, Wakerley, Northamptonshire, (pictured) are said to be "some of the finest in England"?
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 19:30, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Steven Girvin
- ... that Yale theoretical physicist Steven Girvin is working with experimentalist colleagues on building a quantum computer?
Created by SPat (talk). Self nom at 18:10, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Very dull hook (saying that he is doing his job - many, many others are building quantum computers). Any chance for a more interesting one? Materialscientist (talk) 11:35, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that theoretical physicist Steven Girvin won a bronze medal for superior federal service from the Department of Commerce?
- I still think the first one is better. "Quantum computer" is still quite a buzzword right? SPat talk 12:45, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, but merely saying that someone is building them is not. Materialscientist (talk) 00:52, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that Steven Girvin's group has successfully implemented quantum algorithms on a two-qubit quantum processor?
Louis F. Bantle
- ... that Louis F. Bantle saw U.S. Tobacco's income rise tenfold to $1 billion led by sales of smokeless tobacco, telling managers "we must sell the use of tobacco in the mouth and appeal to young people"?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 16:58, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
P. V. Sindhu
- ... that Indian badminton player, P. V. Sindhu, reported on time at the coaching camps despite traveling 56 kilometres (35 mi) on a daily basis?
Created by Mspraveen (talk). Self nom at 16:21, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
St Cuthbert's Church, Holme Lacy
- ... that most of the memorials in St Cuthbert's Church, Holme Lacy, Herefordshire, (example pictured) are to the Scudamore family?
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 16:05, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Althea Garrison
- ... that Althea Garrison, who was elected to the Massachusetts House of Representatives as a Republican, is believed to be the first transgender or transsexual state legislator in the United States?
Created by Metropolitan90 (talk). Self nom at 05:37, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- Please note that Garrison is not a current candidate for office; as discussed in the article, she lost in the primary for her most recent bid for office last month. Also, if editors here believe that this hook is too controversial or otherwise too sensitive to be used as a DYK for an article about a living person, I will defer to their judgment. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:37, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- She lost the primary => she is not a candidate => I have no objection. DS (talk) 00:08, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Rudolf of Geneva
- ... that Count Rudolf of Geneva performed the act of homage to his overlord, Peter II, Count of Savoy, in an orchard outside of a castle in 1263?
Created by Srnec (talk). Self nom at 04:37, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
William VI of Montpellier
- ... that Lord William VI of Montpellier (1121–49) looked out for the interests of the merchants of his town, since his revenues depended on theirs?
5x expanded by Srnec (talk). Self nom at 04:37, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Unión General de Trabajadores de Ecuador
- ... that the Ecuadorian trade union centre U.G.T.E. was legally recognized only after twelve years of existence?
Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 03:26, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- Why is that significant? It seems like a long time. Grsz11 04:15, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- It's a curiosity of English idiom that "only after" means the opposite of "after only". Thus, the hook is expressing that existing for 12 years before being recognised, is indeed a long time. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:04, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Temple Israel of the City of New York
- ... that since it was incorporated in 1873, Temple Israel of the City of New York has had only five senior rabbis?
- ALT1:... that the current Brutalist synagogue building of Temple Israel of the City of New York was completed in 1967?
Created by Jayjg (talk). Self nom at 01:46, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- I prefer the first version, but find either acceptable.--Epeefleche (talk) 06:26, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- I like the word "Brutalist". :-) Jayjg (talk) 00:49, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Everybody Wants You
- ... that Billy Squier's number-one mainstream rock hit "Everybody Wants You" has been performed by Damone, The Unband, Ringo Starr & His All-Starr Band, and players of Guitar Hero 5?
5x expanded by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 14:32, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Bo Shepard
- ... that Bo Shepard and Norman Shepard are the only siblings ever to have both coached North Carolina Tar Heels men's basketball?
Created by Remember (talk) along with User:Jrcla2 and User:Rikster2. Self nom at 17:48, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Rodrigo Rivera Salazar
- ... that Rodrigo Rivera Salazar, Colombia's new Minister of Defence started working in politics when he was only 20 years old as a Councilman in his native Pereira?
Created by Mijotoba (talk). Self nom at 21:47, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 21
Oliver Filley House
- ... that the Federalists of New England did not support the War of 1812, so Captain Oliver Filley of Connecticut, who built the Oliver Filley House, commanded forty militiamen under state control?
Created by Sphilbrick (talk). Self nom at 20:44, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Blue Monday (Orgy song)
- ... that Orgy's cover of "Blue Monday" was said to help pave the way for the cyberpunk trend around the turn of the second millennium?
5x expanded by Theornamentalist (talk). Self nom at 17:33, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Maurice Douglass
- ... that Maurice Douglass made an interception on his first play from scrimmage for the Kentucky Wildcats?
5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 19:25, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- (Alt 1) ... that American football defensive back Maurice Douglass was a favorite of head coach Mike Ditka in part because of the way he dressed.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:48, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- (Alt 2) ... that eleven-year National Football League veteran defensive back Maurice Douglass was once a professional stripper?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:48, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Dinis Sengulane, Tree of Life (Kester)
- ... that the idea for making art like the Tree of Life (pictured) from AK47s and other old guns came from Bishop Dinis Sengulane of Mozambique?
Created by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 14:09, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Both check out except ref 8 in the TREE article is generating an error. — Rlevse • Talk • 00:06, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review - the ref is fixed. cheers Victuallers (talk) 09:35, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
appr — Rlevse • Talk • 18:32, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Venues of the 1952 Summer Olympics
- ... that the Tennis Palace venue that hosted some of the basketball games for the 1952 Summer Olympics in Helsinki, was later converted into an art museum?
Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 14:28, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Barnum’s Kaleidoscape
- ... that Barnum's Kaleidoscape was the first Ringling show to be held under a tent since 1956 and also its first one-ring presentation in more than a century?
- ALT1:... that Kaoru Ishibashi and Zac Colwell first met when hired for the orchestra of Barnum's Kaleidoscape and subsequently formed the band Jupiter One?
Created by Dgabbard (talk). Self nom at 22:36, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Crumstone Irma
- ... that World War II search and rescue dog Crumstone Irma barked differently depending on whether those buried by rubble were dead or alive?
5x expanded by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 22:08, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Date, expansion and hook fact all check out. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 23:53, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Oxon Hoath
- ... that five High Sherrifs of Kent lived at Oxon Hoath (pictured), a former manor house at West Peckham?
5x expanded by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 15:07, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Elisenberg
- ... that at Elisenberg, Oslo is the underground railway station Elisenberg Station, which was only partially finished and never taken into use?
Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 10:23, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
All good. Arsenikk (talk) 12:57, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
- However, the hook seems a bit awkward to me. I think it's better reworded as:
- ALT1:... that the underground Elisenberg railway station at Elisenberg, Oslo was only partially finished and never taken into use? MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 22:18, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Einar Johannessen
- ... that when Einar Johannessen was suspended from NRK television because of payments in his secondary job, the decision was overturned by the Ministry of Culture?
Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 09:24, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Verified. Arsenikk (talk) 13:03, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
St Mary's Church, Wormsley
- ... that in the churchyard of St Mary's Church, Wormsley, Herefordshire, (pictured) are the chest tombs of the writer Richard Payne Knight, and of his brother, Thomas, an expert on apple trees?
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 08:05, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the churchyard of St Mary's Church, Wormsley, Herefordshire, (pictured) contains the tombs of classicist Richard Payne Knight and his horticulturalist brother Thomas? DS (talk) 14:45, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
- The problem with ALT1 is that the link in the article does not actually say that they were (respectively) a classicist and a horticulturalist.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:11, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Jameela Jamil
- ... that Channel 4 music presenter Jameela Jamil was struck by a car at the age of 17 and told she might never walk again?
5x expanded by Chzz (talk). Self nom at 00:40, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
- Note to reviewers; mag confirming this is not officially online, but there is a scan you can check here. Chzz ► 00:40, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Joe Lombardi (basketball)
- ... that under head coach Joe Lombardi, the IUP Crimson Hawks men's basketball team advanced to the 2010 NCAA Men's Division II Basketball Championship just two years after being placed on NCAA probation?
Created by Grsz11 (talk). Self nom at 16:50, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 22
John Edward Bush
- ... that John E. Bush was sent on a mission to form a Polynesian empire with only one ship manned by a boy's band?
- Comment: In my opinion the hook sounds more interesting if you leave out the fact that it was 1887
5x expanded by W Nowicki (talk), Hawaii Samurai (talk). Self nom at 17:38, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Ladislav Žák
- ... that the Czech architect Ladislav Žák found design inspiration from ocean liners and airplanes?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Vejvančický (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 16:18, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Princess Maria Maximilianovna of Leuchtenberg
- ... that Princess Maria Maximilianovna of Leuchtenberg and her brother Nicholas were accompanying their uncle Alexander II of Russia on 4 April 1866 when he was almost assassinated?
Created by Ruby2010 (talk) 15:17, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Achentoul
- ... that the medieval Ca na Catanach, a drovers' road in Sutherland, begins at Dorrery Lodge and ends north of Achentoul?
5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 20:32, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Joseph Mitchell Parsons
- ... that Joseph Mitchell Parsons was the first prisoner to die in an execution chamber at Utah State Prison (pictured) designed to accommodate firing squads and lethal injections?
Created by KimChee (talk). Self nom at 07:42, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
MacArthur Airport disaster
- ... that in 1955, a United Airlines Douglas DC-6 (similar to the one pictured) crashed only days after a device that could have prevented it was installed on a sister aircraft?
Created by Wackywace (talk). Self nom at 06:37, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Li Jinglin
- ... that the Chinese warlord Li Jinglin (1885-1931), nicknamed "China's First Sword," was a renowned swordsman and baguazhang martial artist?
Created by Drmies (talk). Self nom at 02:26, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Irene Scruggs
- ... that the American Piedmont blues singer Irene Scruggs worked alongside Clarence Williams, Joe "King" Oliver, Lonnie Johnson, and Little Brother Montgomery, but today remains largely forgotten?
Created by Derek R Bullamore (talk). Self nom at 01:06, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, I had to remove two commas from the hook. Drmies (talk) 02:23, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Oregon Maneuver
- ... that the Oregon Maneuver (participating officer pictured) involved over 100,000 United States Army troops?
- Comment: Source of hook is a press release from Oregon Governor Ted Kulongoski
Created by Orygun (talk). Self nom at 00:59, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Operation Payback
- ... that Anonymous hackers redirected GeneSimmons.com to ThePirateBay.org during Operation Payback?
Created by Michaeldsuarez (talk). Self nom at 00:44, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Napki Malka
- ... that Napki Malka (pictured) was an Hephthalite King of the 6-7th century, who ruled in the area of Kabul, modern Afghanistan?
Created/expanded by Per Honor et Gloria (talk). Self nom at 22:17, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
James v. Dravo Contracting Co.
- ... that in James v. Dravo Contracting Co. in 1937, the U.S. Supreme Court established a test for determining the validity of state efforts to tax the U.S. federal government that is still used today?
Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 20:35, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
- ALT: - ... that the U.S. Supreme Court reheard James v. Dravo Contracting Co. in 1937 after Associate Justice Willis Van Devanter's retirement altered the judicial balance of the Court? - Tim1965 (talk) 20:38, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Kim Williams
- ... that Kim Williams was the longest ever running guest commenter on National Public Radio where she was a guest commenter on the show All Things Considered for over ten and a half years?
Created by Mifter (talk). Self nom at 20:25, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Date, article, length and hook verified.--SPhilbrickT 20:54, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Thiokol-Woodbine Explosion
- ... that all employees safely exited a magnesium tripflare production facility due to fire, but they remained nearby, unaware of danger; 29 were killed and 50 injured from the Thiokol-Woodbine Explosion?
- ALT1:... that 29 were killed and 50 injured from the Thiokol-Woodbine Explosion at a magnesium tripflare production facility?
Created by Mgreason (talk). Self nom at 20:10, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
McEvoy Motorcycles
- ... that in his short time with British McEvoy Motorcycles racer George Patchett set nine World Records?
Created by Thruxton (talk). Self nom at 19:16, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Date, Length, and hook verified. Best, Mifter (talk) 21:22, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
St Andrew's Church, Cranford
- ... that in 1847 a north transept was added to St Andrew's Church, Cranford, Northamptonshire, (pictured) to form a family pew for the Robinsons of nearby Cranford Hall?
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 17:41, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Date, Length, and hook verified. Best, Mifter (talk) 17:48, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Cracow Bishops' Palace in Kielce
- ... that the plafond in the Bishop Palace in Kielce (pictured) depicts its founder's victory over the Polish Brethren Protestant church, who taught the equality and brotherhood of all people?
or
- ... that the 17th century plafonds of the Bishop Palace in Kielce (pictured) were inspired by the ceilings of the Doge's Palace in Venice?
Created by BurgererSF (talk) 16:52, 22 October 2010 (UTC). Self nom at BurgererSF (talk) 16:52, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Nanao Singh Thokchom
- ... that in 2008, Indian boxer Nanao Singh Thokchom won a gold medal at the inaugural Youth World Amateur Boxing Championships that was held in Guadalajara, Mexico?
5x expanded by Mspraveen (talk). Self nom at 15:21, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Date, Length, and hook verified. Best, Mifter (talk) 21:16, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Munzur Valley National Park
- ... that a hydro dam was built by a state agency within the borders of the Munzur Valley National Park in Turkey violating the existing laws for its protection?
Created by CeeGee (talk). Self nom at 14:32, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 19:57, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
St Peter's Church, Northampton
- ... that St Peter's Church, Northampton is considered to be "the most outstanding Norman church in the county" of Northamptonshire?
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 11:48, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Date, Length, and hook verified. Best, Mifter (talk) 21:18, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Targeted Killing in International Law
- ... that the book Targeted Killing in International Law argues support in the Western world for targeted killing increased following the September 11 attacks?
Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 11:12, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Good piece of work. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 20:00, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Hemigrapsus estellinensis
- ... that until 1962, a salt-water crab lived in the Texas Panhandle, 500 miles from the sea?
Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 06:03, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Mycoplasma laboratorium
- ... that scientists at the Craig Venter institute have created a bacterium with a synthesised genome?
5x expanded by Squidonius (talk). Self nom at 02:02, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Interpretive science
- ... that interpretive science is a normative understanding of the scientific method contrary to positivist science?
Created by Terra Novus (talk). Self nom at 09:39, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Acheron class torpedo boat
- ... that the Acheron class torpedo boat along with the Avernus were sold separately after they were joint together to become part of the Commonwealth Naval Forces?
Created by Shem1805 (talk). Nominated by Minimac (talk) at 10:26, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Philadelphia Phillies all-time roster and its 20 sublists
- ... that the Philadelphia Phillies all-time roster has included Allens, Bateses, Covingtons, Delahantys, Ennises, Fultzes, Greens, Hamiltons, Jacksons, Kennedys, Lees, Morgans, Nicholsons, Powells, Robertses (Robin pictured), Schmidts, Thompsons, Vukoviches, Watts, and Youngs, but never a player whose surname begins with X?
5x expanded by Killervogel5 (talk). Self nom at 15:01, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
- Notes: The main article here, Philadelphia Phillies all-time roster is a 5x prose expansion (even though it's now much smaller if you're counting bytes); the other 20 articles are brand-new sublists of the first. So the DYK credit would be for 21 separate articles... which I'm too lazy to list here.
Confirmed. The only question I have is why the N-O hook is the only of the multi-letter articles to get both letters a name. Staxringold talkcontribs 01:25, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- Because it's the only one of the multi-letter hooks that has multiple names in each letter. I can change it if you'd rather; am OK with either. — KV5 • Talk • 01:27, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- I think it'd probably better if it was all consistent. Staxringold talkcontribs 01:30, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- Done. — KV5 • Talk • 01:59, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
The West Hants Club
- ... that the first professional tennis tournament was held at The West Hants Club in Bournemouth?
Created by 03md (talk). Self nom at 16:49, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Saving My Heart
- ... that the Yes song "Saving My Heart" was originally intended to be a collaboration with Supertramp vocalist Roger Hodgson, but Yes vocalist Jon Anderson wanted to sing it himself?
Created by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 21:42, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
- length, date, hook reference all check out. First Light (talk) 19:08, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Fall of Agadir
- ... that the Fall of Agadir (pictured) took place in 1541 after a 6-month siege of the Portuguese garrison, by the future Moroccan Sultan Mohammed ash-Sheikh?
Created by Per Honor et Gloria (talk). Self nom at 05:41, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 20:36, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 23
Gary Clayton Anderson
- ... that the historian Gary Clayton Anderson of the University of Oklahoma likens the white man's advance into Texas in the 19th century to ethnic cleansing of the American Indians?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:57, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
James F. Neal
- ... that Johnny Cash cast Watergate scandal prosecutor James F. Neal to play a lawyer in the 1983 made-for-television movie Murder in Coweta County?
Created by Racepacket (talk). Nominated by Alansohn (talk) at 03:06, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Cheese ripening
- ... that the process of cheese ripening determines the texture and flavour of cheese?
Created by Hongkongresident (talk) 02:12, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Otto Schimming
- ... that Otto Schimming was the first Black teacher in Namibia?
Created by Namiba (talk). Self nom at 01:25, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Piccolo Quintet
- ... that the Piccolo Quintet, composed by Graham Waterhouse, was performed in a lecture concert of the first Sergiu Celibidache Festival in Munich?
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 23:15, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
List of UK charts and number-one singles (1952–1969)
- ... that before the official UK Singles Chart was formed, Elvis Presley (pictured) had eighteen number-one singles on the five main singles charts?
Created by Rambo's Revenge (talk). Self nom at 22:18, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Yoram Ben-Zeev
- ... that Yoram Ben-Zeev, the current Israeli ambassador to Germany, was born on 20 July 1944—the date of the attempted assassination of Adolf Hitler?
Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 21:36, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Length and sourcing for article and hook all check out. Alansohn (talk) 03:09, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Wolke Hegenbarth
- ... that Wolke Hegenbarth's first name means "cloud" in German?
- ALT1:... that Wolke Hegenbarth's father fought successfully in court to be allowed to give her her first name?
- ALT2:... that Wolke Hegenbarth wanted to be a makeup artist instead of becoming an actress?
Created by SoWhy (talk). Self nom at 21:26, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Amex House
- ... that Amex House (pictured), European headquarters of Brighton's largest employer American Express, is nicknamed "The Wedding Cake"?
Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 20:36, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Dypsis brevicaulis
- ... that fewer than fifty specimens of Dypsis brevicaulis, a Critically Endangered dwarf palm from Madagascar, have ever been found in the wild?
Created by First Light (talk). Self nom at 19:33, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- I realized, after the fact, that this could be combined with a similar one I nominated for Oct. 24. I have no preference for either approach—do whatever works best for DYK. I'll add a similar note under Dypsis humilis.
- Combination suggestions:
- ALT1 ... that two Critically Endangered palms in Madagascar, Dypsis brevicaulis and Dypsis humilis, have fewer than sixty known specimens in the wild combined?
- ALT2 ... that two Critically Endangered palms in Madagascar, Dypsis brevicaulis and Dypsis humilis, have fewer than fifty and ten known wild specimens, respectively? First Light (talk) 16:30, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Cincinnati Riots of 1884
- ... that in the Cincinnati Riots of 1884 many troops from the Ohio National Guard refused to report for riot duty, and one was even spotted joining the rioters?
I blame Aymatth2 for this, entirely. Uncle G (talk) 18:54, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Denis McDonough
- ... that Deputy National Security Advisor Denis McDonough played for Hall of Fame football coach John Gagliardi at Saint John's University?
5x expanded by BillyBoy01 (talk). Self nom at 18:05, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
All Saints Church, Aldwincle
- ... that the poet John Dryden was baptised in the now-redundant Church of All Saints, Aldwincle (pictured) in Northamptonshire?
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 18:01, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- It has been suggested that this be moved to 1 November (All Saints Day). I have no strong feelings about this; there are already two churches with this dedication suggested for that day and I do not mind when it appears.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 21:53, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
List of churches preserved by the Churches Conservation Trust in South West England
- ... that there are 62 redundant churches preserved by the Churches Conservation Trust in South West England?
Created by Rodw (talk). Self nom at 17:09, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Victor Jackovich
- ... that Victor Jackovich was the first United States Ambassador to Bosnia and Herzegovina?
5x expanded by Orlady (talk). Self nom at 14:52, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Franklin Egobi
- ... that Nigerian boxer Franklin Egobi fought for the Latvian heavyweight title in October 2008?
Created by Jimbo online (talk). Self nom at 12:47, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Omar Gjesteby
- ... that the removal of Omar Gjesteby as a union deputy leader in 1940 was partially investigated by his son some years later?
Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 11:02, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Olav Steinnes
- ... that politician Olav Steinnes was a hobby nuclear physicist who, in his own words, made "the most important discoveries ever made in history by a single man"?
5x expanded by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 09:53, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Henry Bird (artist)
- ... that the mural artist Henry Bird taught drawing to the modernist architect Will Alsop by insisting that he draw bricks for three months?
Created by LittleHow (talk). Self nom at 07:43, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Actinide
- ... that most actinides glow because of their radioactivity (example pictured)?
- Comment: See "physical properties", 2nd para, next to the image.
5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 08:59, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Nipple adenoma
- ... that Nipple adenomas are rare benign growths in the nipple that can look like cancer?
Created by Mattopaedia (talk). Self nom at 04:47, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Fort de Loncin
- ... that most of the approximately 300 Belgian soldiers killed in the explosion of the Fort de Loncin remain buried in the wreckage of the fort?
Created by Acroterion (talk). Self nom at 03:35, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- Note: I imported this article from the French Wikipedia on October 21, translated, edited and referenced it in my userspace and moved it into the English WP article space on October 23 - it's new to enwiki as of 10/23, but as an import retains its attribution tail from frwiki back to its creation there in 2005. Acroterion (talk) 03:39, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
William White (New Zealand politician)
- ... that William White built the Southbridge and Pleasant Point branch railways (Pleasant Point Station pictured)?
- Comment: Prose size after 1633 B; prose size before 121 B
5x expanded by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 02:41, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Betty Miller Unterberger
- ... that the American historian Betty Miller Unterberger, a specialist in foreign affairs, became in 1968 the first woman professor at the formerly all-male Texas A&M University?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 02:21, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
List of 1936 Winter Olympics medal winners
- ... that the most successful athlete at the 1936 Winter Olympics was Norwegian speed skater Ivar Ballangrud?
- ALT1: ... that nine athletes managed to win more than one medal at the 1936 Winter Olympics despite there only being 17 events?
Created by Strange Passerby (talk). Self nom at 01:38, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Shimon Stein
- ... that Shimon Stein, a former Israeli ambassador to Germany, and German chancellor Angela Merkel spent "a number of cozy evenings together drinking red wine"?
Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 00:53, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Article length, referencing and creation date all OK; hook fact checks out. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:05, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
List of World Heritage Sites in Cuba
- ... that World Heritage Sites in Cuba include two national parks and examples of the island's historic tobacco and coffee economy (Viñales Valley pictured)?
Created by Grsz11 (talk). Self nom at 00:28, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Khedivate of Egypt
- ... that Muhammad Ali, unofficial ruler of the Egyptian khedivate, was a de jure Ottoman governor, but invaded other Ottoman lands?
- ALT1:... that the khedivate of Egypt was abolished in 1914 when Khedive Abbas II sided with the Central Powers in World War I?
- ALT2:... that the Khedivate of Egypt was a de facto state as early as 1805, but its ruler was only recognized as a khedive in 1867?
5x expanded by User:DCI2026 (talk page). Nominated by DCI2026 (talk page) at 18:15, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
I significantly expanded an older, small stub article into a larger page. Is it still eligible for DYK?DCI2026 (talk) 18:20, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Billy Porter (criminal)
- ... in an 1883 gunfight, Billy Porter of the Dutch Mob shot and killed "Johnny the Mick" Walsh at Shang Draper's saloon?
Created by 129.10.105.90 (talk). Nominated by Chzz (talk) at 22:38, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 24
Venues of the 1956 Winter Olympics
- ... that three of the venues used for the 1956 Winter Olympics would appear in the 1981 James Bond film For Yor Eyes Only?
Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 21:51, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Cape Don Light
- ... that Cape Don Light, at the tip of the Cobourg Peninsula, Northern Territory, Australia, is Australia's northernmost traditional lighthouse?
Created by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 20:33, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Pauline Hall
- ... that, in the 1880s, stage actress Pauline Hall performed Erminie a record-breaking 800 times in the United States?
Created by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 18:55, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
St Peter's Church, Deene
- ... that St Peter's Church, in Deene, Northamptonshire, (pictured) contains a monument to the 7th Earl of Cardigan who led the Charge of the Light Brigade in 1854?
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 18:39, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Looks good - hook reference checks out, and the length and quality both far exceed typical DYK! First Light (talk) 18:57, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
HMS Vindex (1915)
- ... that a Bristol Scout from the British aircraft carrier Vindex made the first interception of an airship by a carrier-based aircraft on 2 August 1916 when it attacked a Zeppelin with explosive Ranken darts?
5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Self nom at 18:17, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Gervase Bennet
- ... that Gervase Bennet MP for Derby during the Commonwealth originated the name "Quakers" for members of the Religious Society of Friends ?
Created by Motmit (talk). Self nom at 16:15, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
BSA A65 Rocket
- ... that the 1964 BSA A65 Rocket motorcycle had a top speed of 108mph and was sold as the fastest BSA in production?
Created by Thruxton (talk). Self nom at 15:58, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Epic Horse series
- ... that each book in the Epic Horse series has a new protagonist and setting?
Created by Derild4921 (talk). Self nom at 15:02, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Justus Smith Stearns
- ... that Justus Smith Stearns (pictured) built the first all electric sawmill in the United States?
Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 13:29, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Bawean
- ... that women constitute more than 75% of the actual population of Bawean island (pictured)?
- Comment: See the lead or the end of "Etymology".
5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 13:24, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Annie Meinertzhagen
- ... that Annie Meinertzhagen spent part of her honeymoon studying birds at Walter Rothschild’s ornithological museum?
Created by Maias (talk). Self nom at 12:45, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
St Michael and All Angels Church, Brownsover
- ... that the organ case in St Michael and All Angels Church, Brownsover, Warwickshire, (pictured) was originally made for St John's College, Cambridge?
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 11:39, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Makambako
- ... that Paul Theroux described Makambako as "not a town but a collection of hovels on stretch of paved road where idle people sat or stood"?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 11:03, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- Article looks OK. Quote is not quite worded the way it is in the book. Do you really want to use, for a DYK, such an "outsider's" perspective that provides quite a subjective, and negative, view of the city? Suggest an ALT hook that describes another aspect of Makambako. --La comadreja formerly AFriedman RESEARCH (talk) 16:06, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
St Swithun's Church, Brookthorpe
- ... that in the porch of St Swithun's Church, Brookthorpe, Gloucestershire, (pictured} is a wall plate with a chronogram hiding the date of the execution of Charles I?
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 09:04, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Shiva Thapa
- ... that Indian boxer Shiva Thapa, who was inspired by Mike Tyson to take up the sport seriously, started practice at the age of seven in his living room?
Created by Mspraveen (talk). Self nom at 09:00, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Simone Silva
- ... that when Simone Silva posed topless at the 1954 Cannes Film Festival, two photographers suffered broken limbs in the crush?
Created by Draggleduck (talk). Self nom at 08:35, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- Do you want to make this a pictured hook? The picture can be of the subject in that topless pose. Given that the subject is deceased, the picture can be used with a non-free fair use rationale. The topless picture will surely attract more views, but is it agreeable to use such pictures on the main page? Here's my alternate pictured suggestion. Thoughts?
- ALT ... that when Simone Silva posed topless (pictured) at the 1954 Cannes Film Festival, two photographers broke their limbs in the scramble to get the best pictures? Mspraveen (talk) 15:49, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Don't Forget the Bacon!
- ... that the children's book Don't Forget the Bacon! was used in an education case study teaching students about reliability of spoken language?
Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 07:45, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Aboriginal title in the Marshall Court
- ... that that the two earliest aboriginal title cases decided by Chief Justice John Marshall (pictured) were examples of collusive litigation?
Created by Savidan (talk). Self nom at 07:33, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Broderick – Terry duel
- ... that the duel (pictured) between US senator David C. Broderick, of California, and ex-Chief Justice David S. Terry, of the supreme court of the same State, was fought on September 13, 1859?
Created by Mbz1 (talk) and Invertzoo (talk). Self nom at 22:50, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
Louis Keppel Hamilton
- ... that Louis Keppel Hamilton took a 12-pounder gun from HMS Challenger 640 miles along the Niger and Benue rivers, then sixty miles overland, to assist the taking of Garoua from the Germans?
Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 03:43, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Date, length and sourcing all OK; offline references (three of them) AGF. Perhaps this incident is also worth mentioning here where WWI land service of these guns is discussed. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 06:39, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- I have now added an online reference, which is to the London Gazette. Moonraker2 (talk) 21:38, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Dypsis humilis
- ... that the Dypsis humilis palm of Madagascar has fewer than ten known specimens, all of them in an area threatened by logging?
Created by First Light (talk). Self nom at 03:35, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- I realized, after the fact, that this could be combined with a similar one I nominated for Oct. 23. I have no preference for either approach—do whatever works best for DYK. I've addded a similar note under Dypsis brevicaulis.
- Combination suggestions:
- ALT1 ... that two Critically Endangered palms in Madagascar, Dypsis brevicaulis and Dypsis humilis, have fewer than sixty known specimens in the wild combined?
- ALT2 ... that two Critically Endangered palms in Madagascar, Dypsis brevicaulis and Dypsis humilis, have fewer than fifty and ten known wild specimens, respectively? First Light (talk) 16:31, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Margot Leverett
- ... that clarinetist Margot Leverett started a band called the Klezmer Mountain Boys, which fuses bluegrass music with a traditional Jewish musical style called klezmer?
Created by La comadreja formerly AFriedman RESEARCH (talk). Self nom at 02:06, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Contra Dam
- ... that James Bond's leap off of the 220 m (720 ft) high Contra Dam (pictured) in the 1995 film GoldenEye was voted in 2002 as the best film stunt ever?
5x/self-nom--NortyNort (Holla) 05:02, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Frankism
- ... that Frankism, an 18th-century movement derived from Judaism, maintains that transgressing every boundary is one's most important personal responsibility?
5x expanded by La comadreja formerly AFriedman RESEARCH (talk). Self nom at 06:03, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Special occasion holding area
- Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' Day 2011 - see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.
For October 28
- ... that M-1 Global's Eastern European Champions Artiom Damkovsky, Magomed Sultanakhmedov and Americas Champion Kenny Garner (replacing injured Maxim Grishin) face their Western European Champion counterparts Mairbek Taisumov, Rafał Moks and Guram Gugenishvili for the lightweight, middleweight and heavyweight division championships (respectively) in mixed martial arts today in St. Petersburg?
Jointly Created by Paralympiakos (talk) and EdChem (talk). Self nom at 17:03, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- Please note: All 6 articles in this hook have been worked on by both nominators in user space, and were moved to article space today. For ease of checking, this link from M-1 Global confirms the match ups and the championships each fighter holds, this link confirms that Grishin was replaced due to injury. Suggestions for alternative (shorter) hooks most welcome, we had trouble coming up with something sufficiently short that mentioned all seven fighters (Taisumov is not a new article). EdChem (talk) 17:03, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- More compact hook to consider... EdChem (talk) 19:30, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1: * ... that today in St. Petersburg, M-1 Global's mixed martial arts world championships are being decided in the lightweight (Artiom Damkovsky v. Mairbek Taisumov), middleweight (Magomed Sultanakhmedov v. Rafał Moks) and heavyweight (Kenny Garner (replacing injured Maxim Grishin) v. Guram Gugenishvili) divisions?
- ALT2: * ... that today in St. Petersburg, MMA bouts will determine M-1 Global's lightweight (Artiom Damkovsky v. Mairbek Taisumov), middleweight (Magomed Sultanakhmedov v. Rafał Moks) and heavyweight (Kenny Garner (replacing injured Maxim Grishin) v. Guram Gugenishvili) Champions?
For October 29, 1AM London time
Dragan Tesanovic
- ... that the undefeated Dragan Tešanović makes his North American debut tonight in the Bellator promotion?
Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 22:04, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
For 31 October, Hallowe'en
The 2010 Halloween collection has started early. My interpretation of whats happening is ... 1. Move your hook to the bottom of the page (ie here) 2. You may get some more macabre, funny etc suggestions for a hook and it should get DYKtick'ed. 3. Then after its been there about 24 hours or so it gets moved off to the dedicated page. 4. Then about three or four days before Oct 31 we sort out the 40 or so hooks into "8"s (so they are ready to load on the 36 hours or so that is Halloween internationally). 5. We do the awards and 6 .... and please help with all of this. It only works if we all do a bit Victuallers (talk) 08:22, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
For November 1, All Saint's Day
- This is a holder for new or expanded articles for November 1, which is All Saint's Day.
All Saints Church, Highbrook
- ... that the isolated All Saints Church (pictured) at Highbrook, West Sussex, was paid for by two sisters who thought the parish church at West Hoathly was too far to travel?
- Comment: Will try a 5x expansion of West Hoathly as well if time permits.
Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 15:16, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
All Saints Church, Buncton
- ... that an ancient carving (pictured) of a person exposing their genitals, at All Saints Church in Buncton, West Sussex, was destroyed by a chisel-wielding vandal in 2004?
- Comment: Bit of an eye-opener... The Times ref (number [19]) relates.
Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 21:50, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
Verified. I've removed "of unknown sex" as it makes it less catchy and added some wikilinks to the hook. Smartse (talk) 15:39, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
November 2, 1800 UTC
American Samoa constitutional referendum, 2010
- ... that despite numerous proposed changes to the Constitution of American Samoa (coat of arms pictured), voters in today's constitutional referendum cannot vote on each of them individually?
Created by Strange Passerby (talk). Self nom at 14:58, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 16:52, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
- I have moved my nomination from Oct 18 to here as there was no objection after I raised it both here and at WT:DYK#Electioneering hooks. Please run this at 6 PM London time (7 AM in American Samoa) on November 2. Strange Passerby (talk • c • status) 11:04, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
For November 3
Scott Ashjian
- ... that the Nevada Supreme Court ruled Scott Ashjian would remain on the ballot as the Tea Party of Nevada candidate in the 2010 United States Senate election?
5x expanded by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 05:52, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
- Because he is a candidate in a current election (early voting in Nevada starts tomorrow), I would oppose having a DYK about this person on the main page during the election season. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:32, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
- I would support not including this DYK until at least after the election, if at all. Frankly, the DYK is not particularly interesting.--TM 02:55, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
- That would be most unfortunate, as it would invalidate the DYK due to time since expansion. Perhaps you could suggest another hook. I dispute its not being "interesting", I think it is quite interesting indeed that it went all the way to the Nevada Supreme Court to determine the candidate would remain on the ballot. -- Cirt (talk) 06:14, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
- Except that Nevada has only two main levels of courts, the Nevada District Courts and the Supreme Court of Nevada. So many cases in the state courts where someone has to appeal will wind up before the state supreme court. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 15:30, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
Initial report shown to be a bot error:
- Prose size (text only): 10660 characters (1792 words) "readable prose size"
- Article created by Kendrick7 on March 8, 2010
- Assuming article is at 5x now, expansion began 76 edits ago on July 30, 2010
- Article has not been created or expanded 5x within the past 10 days (78 days) DYKcheck does not account for previous versions with splits or copyright violations.
- plus the other person's hook did not feature an ongoing election, this one is not new and fails 5x rule too. — Rlevse • Talk • 15:36, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
- Um, Rlevse, I've double-checked it against the article history and it does appear to have been expanded 5x. Strange Passerby (talk • c • status) 15:42, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
- OK, I've never seen DYKcheck that far off before, but I still think we shouldn't run this as it's directly about a pending election. — Rlevse • Talk • 15:47, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
- Two alternates for your consideration to run the day after the election – if accepted, can be moved to the holding area for November 3. Strange Passerby (talk • c • status) 15:51, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
- ALT 1: ... that Scott Ashjian, the Tea Party of Nevada candidate in the 2010 U.S. Senate election in Nevada, was a member of the Republican Party when he filed his candidacy?
- ALT 2: ... that Scott Ashjian faced a legal challenge prior to the 2010 U.S. Senate election in Nevada as he changed parties after submitting his candidacy?
Oppose, those seem to focus unduly negative on aspects of a BLP. -- Cirt (talk) 20:01, 16 October 2010 (UTC)- I disagree, I think it's interesting that that was the reason he was challenged. I don't see it as being "unduly negative", and certainly ALT 1 does not mention a legal challenge so I'd think ALT 1 is perfectly fine. It's shorter and more to the point than ALT3 below. Strange Passerby (talk • c • status) 03:57, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
- You are correct, after I took another look at it. Perhaps we could work the Nevada Supreme Court into there somehow, as well? :) -- Cirt (talk) 04:03, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
- I disagree, I think it's interesting that that was the reason he was challenged. I don't see it as being "unduly negative", and certainly ALT 1 does not mention a legal challenge so I'd think ALT 1 is perfectly fine. It's shorter and more to the point than ALT3 below. Strange Passerby (talk • c • status) 03:57, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
- ALT 3: ... that Scott Ashjian voted for the U.S. presidential candidacies of Republicans Ronald Reagan, George W. Bush and John McCain, before forming the Tea Party of Nevada? — ALT 3, proposed, to run on November 3. -- Cirt (talk) 20:01, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
Choice of hook aside, date and expansion are fine. All suggested hooks are also supported in the article, including the two I put forward. I leave it to the final reviewer to pass the most suitable one. Strange Passerby (talk • c • status) 10:06, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you. :) -- Cirt (talk) 10:08, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
I am disturbed by the possibility of using the Main Page (whether TFA, ITN, OTD, or DYK) to spotlight a specific candidate in an election on the day of, or immediately before the election. I think this problem arises even if the day is chosen coincidentally, but is all the more obvious with a "hold". Because the DYK process only vets articles for compliance with Wikipedia policies like neutrality at the most basic level, this presents an opportunity for partisans to use Wikipedia as a political ad. The easiest way to prevent this (and the only feasible way given the realities of Wikipedia), is just to not run such hooks right before an election. Even if the article is neutral, well-referenced, etc., the prominence of the main page seems to provide an undue level of spotlighting, almost like an endorsement or lopsided voters guide. As for this specific hook, I recommend that it be run well in advance of, or after the election. For example, for the 2008 presidential election, both Obama and McCain were run as TFA; I strongly doubt that we would have run either article alone, even if only one of the articles was featured. Savidan 19:45, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
- Note: This is proposed to be run on the date November 3, 2010, the day after the election. Thank you, -- Cirt (talk) 20:54, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
For January 1, 2011, Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation
- ALT1 ... that the Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation represents the courage, valour, strength, cleanliness, truth, high moral standards and high level of motivation expected of FBI agents?
- ALT2 ... that the Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation was first used on January 1, 1941 and represents the values, standards and history of the FBI and its agents?
Expanded and self-nominated by ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
This nomination is a bit of a special case. I originally nominated Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation on August 3 following a 5x expansion (see discussion above under #Articles created/expanded on August 3). Everyone accepted that it met the DYK criteria but the nomination was derailed by a political dispute over timing. I've put forward a compromise at User talk:Jimbo Wales#Compromise proposal, which involves passing this DYK now but scheduling its appearance on January 1, 2011, which is 60 years to the day since the seal was first used. This proposal has been generally welcomed so I'm putting it forward here for formal consideration. I'm aware that the timeframe is somewhat longer than would be usual for scheduled DYKs, but in the circumstances I think a some flexibility would be justified. I've put forward two possible hooks: the original one as proposed earlier, and a new alternative tying the DYK in more directly with the date. -- ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Interesting compromise. It completely flipped my opinion of the matter. However, prior to providing said opinion, I'd like some clarification:
Are we nominating this (with whichever hook) sans image as you initially suggested on Jimbo's talk page?
--K10wnsta (talk) 00:39, 14 August 2010 (UTC)- Appended: I see that you removed the image from inclusion in the original nomination, so I'll assume this post-dated nomination would not include the image either. However, this necessitates further clarification:
- Are we excluding the image from this DYK solely because of the recent interaction with the FBI?
--K10wnsta (talk) 01:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)- In effect yes, but in my view it's a necessary evil if we're to reach a satisfactory compromise on this issue. -- ChrisO (talk) 01:16, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- Tentative Even if the motivation behind qualifying this article for DYK was questionable, I think you already achieved not just a satisfactory compromise, but a completely valid and justifiable use for it. In fact, it's use is so valid, refusing to use the image for no other reason than the recent hoobajoo with the FBI is blatantly (chilled) censorship...and I just can't get behind that. If we're going to censor it, we need to go whole hog or don't go at all.
Could we put it up for 'On This Day' to avoid reasoning for exclusion of the image?
--K10wnsta (talk) 01:51, 14 August 2010 (UTC)- No opinion on whether to feature on the future date; however, it would be better if this hook didn't remain on the suggestions page for the intervening months, as it is bound to attract further discussion and the page is unwieldy enough as it is. Espresso Addict (talk) 01:55, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- Espresso's suggestion may be useful for more than just making this page leaner. A delay in nomination would lend to better perspective for those establishing consensus. In other words, removing it from discussion for a couple months would also put some time between recent events and the article (and hopefully image) being contemplated for a main page feature (unless such a delay would disqualify it from use in DYK section).
--K10wnsta (talk) 02:12, 14 August 2010 (UTC)- Comment This hook should not "disappear" for a few months. It is far better to leave it here to enable a wide input from editors on the issue. I think this is a good compromise that involves common sense, the proposal and special treatment of the timescale fitting nicely under WP:IAR. Mjroots (talk) 13:53, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support ALT2 for use on 1 January, 2011. EdChem (talk) 10:32, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- Suggest scrapping this troublesome controversial DYK, the user that instigated the issue has also since retired, suggest retiring this idea as well. Off2riorob (talk) 13:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Would you please stop with your blatant pushing of the issue? Putting this off until January removes all controversy related to it. SilverserenC 13:44, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Your comment is just a simple personal attack, I have bigger fish to relentlessly pursue than this worthless disruptive DYK. Off2riorob (talk) 14:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Nothing of what I said was or is a personal attack. I know you greatly dislike ChrisO and myself, but could you please not try and push an already outdated issue? SilverserenC 14:42, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- I support ALT2 for the 1 January date. The anniversary makes this a very good choice for that day. -- L'ecrivant (talk) 22:55, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
I do not support 1 January 2011. The DYK section is for new articles. There are exceptions like April Fools and Halloween; I do not see the point of making every day of the year a possible exception. Geschichte (talk) 20:28, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose Anniversary or not, a four-month wait at DYK is an overkill. The point of DYK is to present new or newly expanded articles, not to present "on this day". By then this article will be more than four months old. If this line of though is going to be followed, DYK is going to end up in a mess. The length of this entry is plain evidence for why keeping things around for almost five months is not a good idea. Arsenikk (talk) 13:55, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
per IAR. I would count this as a valid use of IAR. This could have gone up for today. The only reason it isn't going up is for political reasons. I disagree with Jimbo and others on that matter and think we should run it now, but there is no need to reject it entirely on that basis. NW (Talk) 03:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Support as this would have been promoted in the usual time window if not for the decision to shelve it until the political heat was off. To kill it now because a delay was agreed to would be an egregious abuse of trust. - Dravecky (talk) 09:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose per Arsenikk. The UtahraptorTalk to me/Contributions 22:49, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
- Support per NuclearWarfare and Dravecky—Chris!c/t 20:05, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
- Support, per Chrishomingtang (talk · contribs). -- Cirt (talk) 06:13, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
- Support - This was initially nominated in a timely manner, with an image of the seal, but due to political considerations (public dispute between Wikimedia Foundation and the FBI over the use of the image of the seal) it was agreed that the image should not be used on the main page, and that the hook should be held and run at a later date, when the dispute was not so much in the news. The 60th anniversary of the first use of the seal makes a perfect tie-in, and while it is longer than DYK hooks are normally held for special occassions, Dravecky is correct that it would be egregious to reject it now on the basis of timing. cmadler (talk) 19:07, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
- Support - cmadler really sums up the issue for me. The circumstances of the original nomination and the fact of the 60th anniversary are significant enough that we ought to make an exception to the requirement that DYK items be from recently-created articles. -- Black Falcon (talk) 19:32, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
- Support I agree with NW, but don't think we need to IAR, considering that hooks are regularly kept back for months for the April fools and Halloween main pages. I don't think we should treat this any differently. Smartse (talk) 10:28, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
- Support - The Bushranger Return fireFlank speed 17:12, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- Conditional support if, and only if, the squabble with the feds is over. ScottyBerg (talk) 17:14, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
See also
- User:AlexNewArtBot/GoodSearchResult – This is an automated list of promising new articles generated by AlexNewArtBot (talk · contribs · logs).