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Interests

I have been around on Wikipedia since 26 November 2002 and deal with topics on science and mostly those of biological interest and especially that of relevance to the Indian region. Also liable to tinker with many other topics including evolutionary/molecular biology, applied computational and statistical topics.

Looking for information on

Cut&Paste


{{Taxobox | color = pink
| name = Common Palmfly
| status = 
| image = Elymnias_hypermnestra.jpg
| image_width = 240px
| image_caption = Common Palmfly, south India
| regnum = [[Animal]]ia
| phylum = [[Arthropod]]a
| classis = [[Insect]]a
| ordo = [[Lepidoptera]]
| familia = [[Brush-footed butterfly|Nymphalidae]]
| subfamilia = [[Satyrinae]]
| genus = ''[[Elymnias]]''
| species = '''''E. hypermnestra'''''
| binomial = ''Elymnias hypermnestra''
| binomial_authority = ([[Carolus Linnaeus|Linneaus]], [[1763]])
| synonyms = ''E. alternate'' <br/> ''E. alternate2''
| range_map = 
| range_map_width = 250px
| range_map_caption = 
}}

Coordinates

{{coor d|12.956245|N|77.638670|E|country:IN_type:landmark}}

New frog species ?

The genus could be Ramanella according to many. Perhaps R. montana but yet to be confirmed.

Wikipedia with database driven content

Wikipedia currently allows only unstructured data to be stored, this should ensure that it can also work with structured data. wikipedia:Transclusion Wikipedia transclusion needs to be more usable.

Wikipedia right now mostly uses linking of pages. Once it allows embedding to a greater extent, it would be far more interesting.

It may also allow for dynamic data analysis if macros and expression parsers can also be used. XML, XSL and XSLT seem like nice standards to make use of.

One way perhaps is that there could be an XML data page following a DTD or a schema. This could be validated on the server side. These pages would act as data pages upon which server side XSLT (transforms) are applied to produce the resulting pages. Xpath and query approaches could ensure that the same data sources can be queries in multiple ways to generate different views.

As an example, there could be a page of country statistics following an XML schema. All the country pages could take any country specific data from that page and there could also be nice country wise comparison pages. All of them would update themselves when the data source page is modified.

Musings

Sooner or later Google or its contemporaries will have to seriously use Wikipedia as a reference corpus for word-association building in the 'Cyc' style [1].

What would happen to Wikipedia then ?

Another nice application would be to track the way users forage through the wikipedia. Like ant-trails these could be used to put scent-trails and strengthen topic associations.

From: Jimmy (Jimbo) Wales
To: Shyamal
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 08:11:35 -0700

I do not own Wikipedia, it is owned by the nonprofit Wikimedia 
Foundation, which I founded and am the president of. It really isn't 
possible to sell Wikipedia to anyone. 

However, the concept of intelligent word association is a great one, 
and I've played around a bit with the data myself toward that end. I 
do expect people will make use of it. 

Perhaps the smartest or dumbest thing I ever did was to give Wikipedia 
to a nonprofit organization. :-) 

Shyamal wrote: 

> Hi Jimmy, 
> 
> Just a query out of curiosity. 
> 
> Sooner or later, someone like Google would like to make use of Wikipedia for
> intelligent word association identification (the 'Cyc' idea) and they are 
> probably going to be interested in getting more control as well i guess. 
> Would you sell Wikipedia off to Google if they made a huge offer ? 
> 
> I am interested merely in your stand on this. 
> 
> best wishes 
> Shyamal 
> ps: a very belated thanks for wikipedia :) 
> 
> 

Miscellaneous images

Thanks

A Barnstar!
The Bio-Barnstar

For contributions to articles on diverse taxonomic groups and species in the spirit of WikiProject Tree of Life, especially many within the speciose class Insecta.

Samsara (talkcontribs) 14:17, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

For your large body of excellent contributions, particularly on various aspects of the Natural history of the Indian sub-continent and British-Indian Naturalists, I hereby award you this Barnstar.prashanthns
For excellent editorial work on BR Hills .prashanthns

Meinertzhagen

Yes, my question did indeed come up because I had just read the Rasmussen article. I didn't mention this on the talk page, but the article indicates that most of the work Meinertzhagen must now be considered suspect, and that there was even some deception in his account of the Haversack Ruse. I wish I could provide you with a copy, but it's not available on the NYer's website -- if I were you, I'd go to the local library. :) Thanks! — Adam Conover 19:27, 1 June 2006 (UTC)