User talk:力

• If I did something, please start a conversation here.
• I generally reply inline to comments posted here, and only rarely use {{replyto}}.
• I am aware of the General Sanctions involving crypto-currencies and professional wrestling. power~enwiki (π, ν) 15:02, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Discretionary sanctions alert - gender and sexuality

This is a standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect. It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date.

You have shown interest in gender-related disputes or controversies or in people associated with them. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Wikipedia's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.

For additional information, please see the guidance on discretionary sanctions and the Arbitration Committee's decision here. If you have any questions, or any doubts regarding what edits are appropriate, you are welcome to discuss them with me or any other editor.

Just letting you know about the stricter rules for gender and sexuality related topics on Wikipedia. Don't worry, it's just a standard notice that has to be given and you've not done anything wrong. P.S, I didn't see this one in your ds-aware block :) Sideswipe9th (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 19:40, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. I do know the DS exist, but don't consider myself aware of them in the "how dare anyone suggest I don't know exactly when and where they apply" sense I feel about the ones at the top of the page. So I plan to stick to the yearly reminders for this one. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 02:25, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Lynn Barton

Hi @力 I think you're right about PROD and actually on reflection, I think that article requires improving rather than deleting. It's rubbish as it is, but actually the subject is definitely noteworthy and I'm going to see if I can improve. Thanks and All the best, Emmentalist (talk) 07:55, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Bob Dole

On 6 December 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Bob Dole, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 02:08, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

article deletion

I disagreed that this can be converted a redirect, a bold move. ~ cygnis insignis 13:25, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Wikibreak

While I may be active with declared limited-scope alternate accounts for the rest of this week, I don't plan to make any more edits with this account until January 2022. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 22:07, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Hey, are you still on Discord? I just wanted to say hi. Hope you're well. Benjamin (talk) 11:05, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

I am no longer on Discord. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 03:51, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

My brother got COVID don't worry about him. Christmas is canceled. My plans have been shuffled. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 03:51, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Invitation to take part in a survey about medical topics on Wikipedia

Dear fellow editor,

I am Piotr Konieczny, a sociologist of new media at Hanyang University (and User:Piotrus on Wikipedia). I would like to better understand Wikipedia's volunteers who edit medical topics, many associated with the WikiProject Medicine, and known to create some of the highest quality content on Wikipedia. I hope that the lessons I can learn from you that I will present to the academic audience will benefit both the WikiProject Medicine (improving your understanding of yourself and helping to promote it and attract new volunteers) and the wider world of medical volunteering and academia. Open access copy of the resulting research will be made available at WikiProject's Medicine upon the completion of the project.

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Holiday greetings (2021)

Power,
I sincerely hope your holiday season goes well this year especially with what we went through last year. I'm optimistic that 2022 will be a better year for all of us: both in real life and on Wikipedia. Wishing you the best from, Interstellarity (talk) 13:12, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

A butterfly for you!

	Hoping for you.
	I hope things start looking up for you soon. I'm excited for your return from WikiBreak! ––FormalDude talk 04:03, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Your RfA and Merry Christmas!

Not going to lie, had I run across the comment TheresNoTime referenced in her nomination, I would've happily co-nominated (TNT: any others, feel free to ping me). I have been itching to nominate various different editors and am happy to see you running. Wishing you the best on that! On a separate note, from my family to yours, wishing you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 05:30, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2022!

Hello 力, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2022. Happy editing, TheSandDoctor Talk 05:30, 25 December 2021 (UTC) Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

I shall let the gallery dissect the results of the RFA, and hopefully find something productive to make of it. I plan to make myself scarce while that process occurs. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 18:23, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

I'll give you my take straight away: people claim to care about the impossible standards at RfA, but are perfectly happy to oppose at a split second based on a candidate who runs for RfA in a slightly different way or answers questions in a more blunt but still correct/appropriate manner. Pile-on opposes snowball as soon as one person has written something that kinda sounds reasonable on the face of it ("your username causes accessibility and searchability problems") but which they have no interest in actually raising as an issue anywhere outside of RfA (such as on your talk page at any time since you've changed username, or at a wider forum to discuss a ban on non-Latin characters in usernames). Nor will anyone even approach you about it again after the RfA has finished, in a clear demonstration that people do see admins as an elite class of users more important than simple experienced editors like you and me.

In other words—the people who claim to care about the toxic atmosphere are the ones creating it (not all of course, as you did get 50% supports, and several notable abstentions; and I think some of the opposes on other grounds were completely justified and reasonable). I have to say, I thought your RfA would last around 36 hours, but I knew it would be tanked in the manner it has. I wonder if this is anything like what John Cline meant by their comment here, which I wholly endorse. — Bilorv (talk) 18:43, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

I just saw you chose to withdraw your RfA. Although I was following it, I seldom ever participate in the RfA process, though I can understand the reasons behind the concerns raised. We haven't really had any interactions of note between us, but I feel for you, especially on a day like today. I hope you keep in good spirits it doesn't put you off wikipedia. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:52, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Also agree with the John Cline comment that Bilorv mentions above. Wasn't a fan of things like the username, the El_C spat or the pre-nomination performance art, but these seem like small beer in the context of your overall excellent contribution history. Sorry to see that the RfA turned out as it did, and all the best for the holidays and 2022. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Euryalus (talk • contribs)

I did not expect the username to be an issue. It is utterly non-negotiable - I would quit the project and move to Wikidata full time before I would change it. The El_C spat ... I will not apologize for going to the mats there. I probably should - ANI is at its worst when people turn it into a wrestling match, and my comments did not help anything. If people care in a month, I may make a longer statement then. The pre-nomination stuff: trying to squeeze three months of debate and discussion into one hour never works as well as one hopes. I should have told TNT not to mention it in the nom statement. And apparently when one speaks in conditionals (if this happens, I will do that), editors feel you are a super-villain? User:力 (powera, π, ν) 19:36, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	For stepping up at RfA. Sorry it didn't work out, but your offer is appreciated. Ad Orientem (talk) 18:50, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Quick Post-Mortem on the RFA

A few thoughts:

1. The "community" is schizoid and has a Frankenstein consensus on RFA matters. The community appears to believe that (A) there is a critical shortage of admins; (B) this is not caused by a shortage of new users; (C) there is no urgency in fixing problems with site processes regarding adminship. I know respected and sensible editors who agree with any pair of those, but believing all three is nonsensical. Yet that is where "consensus" is.
2. There is no mechanism for "peer review" apart from RFA. This is surely a cause of much of the problems at RFA, but I don't have a solution.
3. The nomination process has turned into a ceremonial ritual - and one that I believe the community does not really understand. One purpose of it is to demonstrate that you are not a NOTNOW candidate, and to have someone who can deal with the paperwork. There are certainly others, but I will not comment on that just yet.
4. A new recommendation - votes should be hidden from the candidate - probably by having a separate /Vote subpage. If candidates can't respond to votes, they should be permitted (and even encouraged) to not even read them during the RFA. That will certainly decrease stress - it has many of the benefits of a SecurePoll vote with none of the drawbacks.
5. There is a legitimate argument that admins should have ASCII-only usernames. We'll see if there's an RFC about that, or if I have just discovered an unwritten rule.
6. Regarding anything else - yeah. If people still care about any other issue raised at my RFA once it is late January, I will give an answer then -- it will be more productive when there isn't motivation from certain oppose voters to make me look bad.

User:力 (powera, π, ν) 18:57, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

I've thought of you as an awesome Wikipedian for a long time. Best of everything to you and yours this holiday season and beyond! P.I. Ellsworth - ed. ^put'r there 19:32, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

I agree with Paine. Have a great holiday and don't let this get you down. - Ret.Prof (talk) 21:14, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas anyway, and a Happy New Year!

Whatever!

Hi 力, Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:53, 25 December 2021 (UTC)