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Ukraine Same Sex Marriage Petition

I included it on the timeline as it was brought about by heterosexual couples getting married before fighting the Russians, a teacher saw this, got upset that Same Sex couples couldn’t do it and started a petition for SSM. Often wars lead to massive social changes. It might be the beginning of a cultural change in Ukraine that the invasion has started. If you still feel it isn’t relevant then I defer to your judgement. Jjmclellan82 (talk) 12:10, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No it is not relevant to the progress of the war, nor will it impact on the war. Slatersteven (talk) 12:15, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As I understand it there has been movement on this issue in Ukraine at least in small part due to the war, as gay persons who are in a relationship with soliders who fight and and are injured or die have no legal rights(i.e. inheritance/visitation). Perhaps it won't impact the war itself, but... 331dot (talk) 13:02, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Edit Reversion on 2019 Jammu and Kashmir airstrikes

Hi, I've reverted your revert. I agree including location is helpful, but here in this case it's unnecessary, as it's already in the title. And your revert reinstated the 90 charactered shortdesc, which is almost double the recommended size. Thanks. Ahated (talk!) 10:56, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No its not, as Kashmir is divided between two nations. We need to be clear they did not drop bombs in their own part. Slatersteven (talk) 10:57, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah thanks for improving it further. It's much better than previous two. Thanks Ahated (talk!) 11:05, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, actually it is. Please see Kashmir (disambiguation)#Kashmir region. Pakistani one is known as Azad Kashmir and Indian one is known as Jammu and Kashmir. And secondly did you just violated the 1RR imposed on the page? I see there is an ARB imposed on the page, which stops us to do second revert. Ahated (talk!) 11:20, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but this is a quick description for people who have not read those articles. Slatersteven (talk) 11:22, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also I am unsure there is a 1RR limit. Slatersteven (talk) 11:24, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In fact "Jammu and Kashmir airstrikes" might read like attacks in two places to anyone not up on the subject. Slatersteven (talk) 11:25, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Request

This Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan terrorist group banned in many countries, but only few are mentioned in article info-box can you please add remaining countries by importing from Designated as a terrorist group, I'm requesting you here because this page is Extended confirmed protected. 103.141.159.229 (talk) 11:14, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please...

Could you please stop reverting me like this ? That feels a bit hostile. If you disagree, you may just manually undo what I did. Please note that I'm the one who put the "2019" date, as the page originally said June 22 2018. I'm pretty sure that 2019 is incorrect so I'm trying to fix this. Thanks. Psychloppos (talk) 16:07, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You being "pretty sure" is not enough, you need RS conforming it, please read wp:or and wp:v. Slatersteven (talk) 16:09, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well, as I said I originally put the June 22 2019 date, so allow me to feel responsible for what I think is a mistake. Psychloppos (talk) 16:11, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What does the fact that you name a mistake last time tell you? This is why we do not use OR, we can get things wrong. Also I doubt your source for this is an RS. Find an RS to confirm it, or remove it. Slatersteven (talk) 16:16, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I was convinced that I had put the 2019 date, but apparently that was an IP and not me. My bad. Anyway, I found a source stating that he did die in 2018. As for his exact birth date, we do not have very reliable sources either (and this time, I'm pretty sure I had nothing to do with this) except a Youtube video in which he said that his birthday is September 17. Psychloppos (talk) 16:35, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

OK, but you can't use youtube videos as a source unless they are by recognized subject experts (and maybe not even then). Certainly not by a self-appointed judge. You need to read wp:rs and wp:fringe. Slatersteven (talk) 16:38, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I didnt' add that video myself. The video I did add today was the one published by his disciple about the date of his death, and I only considered using that one because I had seen that a Youtube video was used as a source for his birthday. Psychloppos (talk) 16:42, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I did not say you did add it, I said it was not an RS. Slatersteven (talk) 16:44, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, so I just removed it. And sorry about the above confusion: I have no idea why I was conviced that I had added the 2019 date of death. Anyway, now we have a source stating that he did die in 2018, and the June 22 2018 date seems to be confirmed by several clues: we just need to have a reliable source for this, and for his exact birth date as well. Psychloppos (talk) 16:51, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

wtf

excuse me, what the fuck is this? If not a mistake thats grounds for an indefinite blocking. nableezy - 16:33, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea, must be some bizarre cut-and-paste error. After all I am agreeing with you. Slatersteven (talk) 16:49, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That edit would be very out of character for Slatersteven. It appears to be an inadvertent error. Jehochman ^Talk 16:52, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I can't imagine how it even occurred, as I would not have edited his signature. Slatersteven (talk) 16:53, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

All good, if nothing ill intended nothing ill taken. nableezy - 21:07, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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WW1 article

Hello Slatersteven !

I wrote multiple long compound sentences which required even more references to became a fairly well supported text. Why did you revert my edits? Thank you for your reply! Cheers!--Longsars (talk) 17:19, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Because I was unsure your edits were supported by wp:rs. Slatersteven (talk) 17:52, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Authors are academically highly skilled economic historians. Check their names and their academic careers. Longsars (talk) 18:49, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take it to RSN. Slatersteven (talk) 18:50, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm just telling, the value of their texts have not even comparable weight with the opinion of an average (layman) Wiki editor. Longsars — Preceding undated comment added 18:53, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You need to make a case at the articles talk page, not here. Slatersteven (talk) 18:56, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The references are from these persons:

Stephen Gross: Associate Professor of History & European Studies Stephen Gross.

Prof Ágnes Pogány: Professor of econonomic history, Corvinus University of Budapest

Prof Martin Horn Professor in the History department at McMaster University

Assistant Professor Nicholas Mulder Cornell University Assistant Professor of Modern European History in the Department of History.

Mr. Slatersteven, May I ask you, which university do you teach at and what is your title?--Longsars (talk) 19:10, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Why would Slatersteven need to be a university professor to know the details of sourcing policy on Wikipedia? Why would it help him to be one? Wikipedia editors should not be evaluating the merits of sources based on content. They should be evaluating the sources based on the provenance and adherence of the source to WP:RS. — Shibbolethink ^(♔ ^♕) 21:01, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Again, this needs to be discussed at the articles talk page, not here. Slatersteven (talk) 09:20, 23 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Project Veritas

Greetings.

I wanted to post some info at Talk:Project Veritas, but my account seems to be too new for that. I see that you have made quite a few edits to the article, so I thought you might be interested in this.

Apparently, PBS considers Project Veritas to be a reliable source. At least, reliable enough that PBS did not want to continue employing one of its lawyers after he was shown saying certain controversial things in a Project Veritas video.

In my opinion, this speaks highly in favor of the reliability of Project Veritas. PBS is usually praised by people on the political left, the very same people who claim that Project Veritas is not reliable.

I present these three sources, and ask that you consider adding to the Project Veritas article based on this content, if you think this content is notable enough to deserve being included.

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-entertainment-coronavirus-pandemic-8f586d687ab332777a7a059457ff818e

https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/pbs-lawyer-resigns-caught-veritas-sting-75208013

https://www.pbs.org/publiceditor/blogs/pbs-public-editor/pbs-addresses-project-veritas-video/

SquirrelHill1971 (talk) 15:28, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You really need to suggest this at the articles talk page. There other eyes can look at this as well. Slatersteven (talk) 15:32, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I see I just had to wait four days. Thanks for your feedback and comments. SquirrelHill1971 (talk) 18:47, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Revert warning citations

@Slatersteven: Please specify by link the three revert examples you refer to at American Civil War that justifies sending me a Revert Warning with your threat to ban me there. TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 07:31, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]