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Template:Z33 Icewhiz (talk) 09:45, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Test / POINTy edits

Edits such as diff are not acceptable even if reverted immediately. Icewhiz (talk) 09:48, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

You are quite right, they only serve to draw attention to oneself, and to those perhaps in b’nail about the degree to which their spying on US citizens (even if performed through intermediates) is noticed, and it makes no difference if such edits are performed spontaneously, unlike a long-planned campaign visit to Moscow to recover a brither’s remains Vesuvius Dogg (talk) 12:25, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

And this diff in 777 characters probably won’t impress the gematriastical establishment, those who have planned so far ahead, who never take a day off, even and aspecially for an auto-da-fé of election Vesuvius Dogg (talk) 19:05, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

?sick למה את מתכוונת Vesuvius Dogg (talk) 19:20, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Αντεr Νοωrυz 2019...

البته Trump معتقد است که حمله به ایران او را مجددا انتخاب خواهد کرد و او با حمایت نتانیاهو برای دستیابی به هدفش دست خواهد یافت.

יש צרות מתבשל ב ... נהר הירדן ...

as well اما در ایران نیز گزینه هایی وجود دارد

من یک نماز قدیمی می گویم ... 12 بار بیش از Vesuvius Dogg (talk) 23:26, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Thε Dαγ Αντεr Ταmarowlαηd...

When I see that dual-loyalty charge coming from a congresswoman who first signaled opposition to B.D.S. and then support for it, when I see it coming from a congresswoman who has never been to Israel, when I see it coming from a congresswoman who, to my knowledge, has never criticized the Palestinian leadership for its corruption and failure — time and again — to seize on peace overtures from Israeli leaders who, unlike Netanyahu, actually wanted to forge a two-state solution, when I see it coming from a congresswoman who seems to be obsessed with Israel’s misdeeds as the biggest problem in the Middle East — not Iran’s effective occupation of four Arab capitals, its support for ethnic cleansing and the use of poison gas in Syria and its crushing of Lebanese democracy — it makes me suspicious of her motives.

Something there is that’s churlish in quoting at length a three-time Pullet Surprise-winning columnist I largely and broadly agree with on matters concerning Israel (that hat trick puts Ol’ Tom Friedman right up there with Frost, possums!), and particularly in regard to my old nemesis-in-spirit and stalker-in-real-life for more than 30 years, since before even his election to the Knesset, dating to my conscious knowledge from the time he paid a visit to the Oxford Union, and the minions surrounding him pointed me out to him in a crowd of a thousand... who was I then, but a Kansas Kid on a Rhodes Scholarship, who had spent all of eight days in his life in Israel, whose direct matrilineal Jewish lineage was a closely-kept family secret within the United States for—at that point—nearly 90 years? What interest did this Heroic Figure, who had taken a bullet decorously through his shoulder while his brother died, have in me, a student of poetry, music, and history? I scarcely involved myself in politics, then or now; I was not then nor since an advocate of BDS or Israeli boycotts. Why, I hadn’t even visited the Occupied Territories in my brief December 1987 passage through the Holy Land, and scarcely aware that the First Intifada began the eve of my arrival; so what interest did Netanyahu have in having me pointed out in a crowd for him from the dais, and in studying me so intently, before he began his speech? I was the littlest ‘x’ on panic’s bottom line, and surely that reality hasn’t changed now, has it?

Friedman is always worth reading carefully and in full; his columns ask for engagement, and it is in that spirit that I call him out on what I most strongly disagree with, his assertion thst Iran is an effective “occupier” of four Arab capitals. If ever an aside deserved to be supported with a hyperlink to well-sourced New York Times reporting, it would have been that; I fear the confusion between (mere) Shiism and non-Saudi/Sunni sentiment with « occupation » is a bit glib, particularly with BiBi and Trump ginning for war; it certainly misrepresents Iran in its territorial ambitions, I think, “region of influence” being quite a different animal than “occupation”.

As for Ilhan Omar, her “transgressions“ are easily forgiven, by me certainly, and by her constituency, one hopes, in the fullness of time. IT IS all about the Yahoos on this Election Eve (“It’s an Election, Eve, not ‘Election Steve’,” as the wag once writ) we ought soberly to consider what is at stake, and whether a unifying peace or a dividing war (that will surely sweep Israel up in ruin) will define the time to come. It is 5:00 am on the 9th Avril in Tehran as I post this, 3:30 am in Tel Aviv. It is no surprise that Trump and BiBi are on the same page. Good lick to them both in the 9th Avril, Jane.. it is all in your hands now.

Vesuvius Dogg (talk) 00:30, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

BIRD

Really a great notion, you see...

Αdvice to you good from me...

Respect the long “in-quietude“

As besht as possible, for me...

Vesuvius Dogg (talk) 03:03, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Αηd τhεrε fοLLοωεd τhειr sενεη-fοιd αντεrβυrηεr...

Daniel 3:18

וְהֵ֣ן לָ֔א יְדִ֥יעַ לֶהֱוֵא־לָ֖ךְ מַלְכָּ֑א דִּ֤י לֵֽאלָהָיִךְ֙ ׳לָא־אִיתַיְנָא׳ ״לָא־אִיתַ֣נָא״ פָֽלְחִ֔ין וּלְצֶ֧לֶם דַּהֲבָ֛א דִּ֥י הֲקֵ֖ימְתָּ לָ֥א נִסְגֻּֽד׃ ס

Vesuvius Dogg (talk) 10:33, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Jeremiah 20:12

וַיהוָ֤ה צְבָאוֹת֙ בֹּחֵ֣ן צַדִּ֔יק רֹאֶ֥ה כְלָי֖וֹת וָלֵ֑ב אֶרְאֶ֤ה נִקְמָֽתְךָ֙ מֵהֶ֔ם כִּ֥י אֵלֶ֖יךָ גִּלִּ֥יתִי אֶת־רִיבִֽי׃ ס

Johannes 10:36

מדוע קוראים אתם 'מגדף' למי שקדשו האב ונשלח לעולם הזה על-ידו, ושטוען כי הוא בן האלוהים

Vesuvius Dogg (talk) 12:39, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Ezekiel 37:19

דַּבֵּ֣ר אֲלֵהֶ֗ם כֹּֽה־אָמַר֮ אֲדֹנָ֣י יְהוִה֒ הִנֵּה֩ אֲנִ֨י לֹקֵ֜חַ אֶת־עֵ֤ץ יוֹסֵף֙ אֲשֶׁ֣ר בְּיַד־אֶפְרַ֔יִם וְשִׁבְטֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל ׳חֲבֵרוֹ׳ ״חֲבֵרָ֑יו״ וְנָתַתִּי֩ אוֹתָ֨ם עָלָ֜יו אֶת־עֵ֣ץ יְהוּדָ֗ה וַֽעֲשִׂיתִם֙ לְעֵ֣ץ אֶחָ֔ד וְהָי֥וּ אֶחָ֖ד בְּיָדִֽי׃

Vesuvius Dogg (talk) 12:29, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

John 11:53

מאותו יום ואילך תכננו מנהיגי היהודים להרוג את ישוע,

Vesuvius Dogg (talk) 13:00, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

Luke 10:29

החכם רצה להצדיק את רגשותיו (מפני שלא אהב אנשים מסוימים), ולכן שאל: "מיהו רעי?"

Psalm 137:8

בַּת־בָּבֶ֗ל הַשְּׁד֫וּדָ֥ה אַשְׁרֵ֥י שֶׁיְשַׁלֶּם־לָ֑ךְ אֶת־גְּ֝מוּלֵ֗ךְ שֶׁגָּמַ֥לְתְּ לָֽנוּ׃

כל אחד צריך להיערך לתגובתו של ביבי הערב, רהוטה כמו שלו [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2awnEr4LNQ שפת אם]

Vesuvius Dogg (talk) 17:00, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

Comments

Please knock off with the non-English edit summaries; they do little but waste the time of people reviewing your edits. Why should I have to run to a translator to figure out you are making an appreciative, not a pejorative, edit summary when you write it in Hungarian or Arabic or whatever? --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇} 17:45, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

I will endeavor to give English edit summaries first — redoubling my diligence in that respect — but the non-English summaries (often as not from poetry) give context for native speakers, and I do edit with an international mindset, the English-language Wikipedia serving as flagship. I am flattered anyone might feel compelled to “run to a translator” to find out if my words are “appreciative, not ... pejorative”, but I must admit, it really is the people who can read them perfectly well in their mother tongue who are best left to make that determination, according to their own cultural contexts, with something (inevitably) lost in translation for those who require translation, or suspect I might be “wast[ing] the time” of those “reviewing your edits”.

Why, who would think my edit summaries should be under scrutiny—why me, of all people? I’m only one person, trying to improve the encyclopedia, and I always source my work... May I ask, was there a particular edit or comment which, in translation, seemed “pejorative” to you?

As a rule, when the subject is serious or happens to touch me on a personal level, such as here and here, for example, to be staid in my summaries.. [don’t finish that sentence a fictive voice tells me] Though perhaps when my editing touches a third rail, like this, I could do better than offer a glib summary such as “waterboi” ... people have been killed in this world for less, after all. And just as the Soviet Artist makes a reply to Just Criticism, I’ll take leave here on a note of contrituon, promising to drink more from the David-joon than the David-joob in the future... that last one funny in Farsi, by the way. Vesuvius Dogg (talk) 19:22, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Edward Shillito

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It already has two sources, and Shillito is already notable enough to be on Wikisource, but by all means, speedily delete it, it would be emphatically in keeping with the persecution of The Children of Abraham to do just that — speedily delete it, so there will be a red space on my User page, for the sake of posterity. There could be no better endorsement possible for the notion that NOTHING was learned from the World War I gas attacks or those who told the stories of the survivors: NOTHING was learned from Mr. HCN and his revenant Ministerial spirit that rode a Pegasus bareback to victory in Israel’s last election, a spirit that the zombie voters for United Torah Judaism drink in like water, because their rabbis tell them to.. and G-d forbid, you would find a gematraist in their midst who could read the fukking writing on the wall here, and stand up to the rabbinate... Oh G-d Forbid that, a measure of independent thinking, a thoughtful and sincere prayer for anything but one’s own own own ...

For the record, this'@ is the entry as it stands. I created it just a few hours ago.. But in the spirit of Wikipedia that cannot tolerate Good Faith article starts, partiularly on religious subjects that are “disagreeable” to some, that migh bear at least enough scrutiny, by dint of independent internet searches, to realize this subject is notable, oh no, G-d forbid that!

The very POINT of Wikipedia is that some people and some subjects are so offensive in the mere fact of their existence, their existence needs to be erased... Just like my family. And Eretz Israel has invested hundreds of millions in trying to do JUST THAT, mark my words.

Time will trach you... I mean, track you... teach you... trach you all.

Meanwhile, here is the offending entry, on a man who did no harm to this earth except for standing against injustice and writing poetry... By all means, delete him: