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Yellow there! I did some reformatting; there are guidelines at MOS:DAB, if you want to take a peek. The most important one (in my opinion) is to keep wikilinks as sparse as possible (to avoid confusion). Thanks for creating it, though! Cheers, Ignatzmicetalk 15:35, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

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He restored the copyvio again. Dougweller (talk) 16:32, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

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Article on "Republic"

Could you fix the vandalism in the first paragraph of the article on "Republic" (deletion of the words "panda bear" and general revision to the text to revert that paragraph to the language of August 22)? I do not edit well and I see that you have previously curated that article.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mccarthd (talkcontribs) 17:39, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Oops, missed it. Fixed now. Thanks for the note.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 18:21, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

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Intelligent Design

Hey, this is about the ID thing. Wasn't sure what the protocol is for replying. I replied on my own talk page. Do I have to reply here? BabyJonas (talk) 23:32, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Ayala's review

Hi, I've just emailed you a hard-to-read copy of that review. Yopienso (talk) 16:05, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

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I have undone your recent edits at Talk:Intelligent design. Please add any comments you wish, but refrain from refactoring mine. I am obviously not devoting as much time and energy to the issue as some editors, so I concede that I may be mistaken (although I was not referring to WP:UCN), but moving stuff around needs stronger justification. Johnuniq (talk) 11:19, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Impolite behaviour

I am writing here to object formally to the way you have been addressing me on WP. I hope that after reading this your conduct will improve and that you will be polite towards me, and others, in the future.

I note that WP:npa says, "Insulting or disparaging an editor is a personal attack regardless of the manner in which it is done."

I have collected all the insults and impolite language you have used to me over the past few days. Please reflect upon these and change your behaviour.


After a large piece of my edits were deleted by you saying they were OR, I wrote:

Recent changes by Andrew Lancaster

These have completely destroyed my carefully cited entries in the new section, which we

have been discussing quite amicably, and replaced them with something of your own,

which has not been agreed by those involved. This is not on! I am reverting your edits. I

suggest strongly that we ask for a 3rd opinion or go to a dispute.

AL wrote:

"My"? This is not your article and in the end the "important" thing is whether my edits

made the article worse or better. Please try to explain in terms of what is good or bad for

the article. Amicable is a nice word, and I do indeed think I have been, but please keep

in mind that telling me not to edit (not even to post drafts) is not amicable from your

side, and you are certainly not being amicable. I did attempt to explain concerns here

and in my edit summaries but you have not been very interested.

I wrote:

You know that I have altered a good deal of my original stab at this section in order to

incorporate your ideas. So to say I have not been interested in them is just not true. I

never said you could not post drafts. Where does that come from?

AL's comment to me:

You have no right to insist that other editors accept your work as un-improvable.

Myrvin: Anyone's work can be improved. I disagree with your reason for the change


After me requesting a Third Opinion and AL producing a detailed list of the edits in question:

AL:

If you simply refuse to give reasons not to ignore your desires, then obviously that is

what I will eventually do. You do not own this article and stop me from editing it without

giving reasons


So without checking any facts, you are going to assume I am telling a lie with my

explanation on the talkpage


That really is a hopeless response


I wrote:

I await the third opinion. Myrvin (talk) 12:04, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

AL wrote:

I am not sure if you are looking for a third opinion actively or just hoping someone will

turn up, but in any case I believe there is no reason for me to stop editing and I do

intend to start editing again. I am quite confident that any reasonable third opinion is

going to start by pointing out to you that you should try responding to reasonable

questions and proposals in a rational way on the talk page.

I said:

Another insult. I have contacted 2 possible 3O people - I don't know who they are. If

nothing happens in a day or two, I'll raise a Dispute - or you can do it if you like.

AL said:

I am just going to edit. I see no dispute as such, and neither will any third party. There is

just one editor who wants to try to stop another one from editing, without having to

bother trying to understand the other editor's positions, or read the sources he cites. By

the way, I doubt making obvious false accusations is going to help you. (There is no

insult in the above post, or in any other where you claimed to see them.)


I am quite confident that any reasonable third opinion is going to start by pointing out to

you that you should try responding to reasonable questions and proposals in a rational

way on the talk page.


After my response to the 3O:

And of course your remark implying that you looked in the Phaedo and only found

mention of his criticism of another philosopher basically tells me that instead of looking

at the Phaedo you looked at what I'd cited previously about the Phaedo, because that is

exactly a bit I had extracted.


you just ignored my explanations and claim to have done another search which, for some

reason, avoids looking at either the dialogue, or the sources I named.


You are quite demanding to me, but your own efforts seem not to be very diligent.

Myrvin:

Once again, I am "not very diligent" and "I haven't looked at" the book, and only

"claim" to have done a search. Please stop attacking me.

AL: Your approach is impractical. It can not be that every time I post something and give a

source, that you can delete it and call in a third party, instead of just checking the

sources or making a real concern clear? This way of working is not really allowed

according to my understanding of WP norms, and if you are calling for third party

opinions maybe you should ask whether I am right about that


After me suggesting a quotation:

AL: I have made a proposal above, and you have not explained what was wrong with it. (You

said you were not sure about the sourcing and the correctness, but that is not really a

constructive opinion.)


I said:

please stop insulting me


In the Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard started by AL:


After I gave a source and quotation in support of the doubted citation:

AL: Myrvin, a reason for using this noticeboard is to isolate out specific questions related to

sourcing, one at a time. You have swamped this with a whole bunch of points that would

need extensive discussion. Can't you stick to the one above? I feel compelled to give

some comment because you are clearly trying to give an impression

Myrvin: Saying that I am "clearly trying to give an impression" is another insult to add to the many you have made to me on the Talk page. I have asked you to stop doing this. Why can't you just be polite for once? I am pointing to the problem at hand and giving a citation that supports my view. You gave 7 sources above to support yours.

After my response to another editor's view:

AL: Myrvin you are highjacking this thread! If you want to raise other questions for this

noticeboard or others, please post them separately! Myrvin (talk) 17:11, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Appreciation returned

Andrew, I replied to your comment on my talk page. Thanks! -- MisterDub (talk | contribs) 20:45, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Intelligent design is not a battlefield

Andrew, you've put a lot of effort into making proposals at Talk:intelligent design, and have brought up some good points, but despite requests by others to make clear simple proposals and format your posts so that it's more feasible for others to reply, you keep on adding large chunks of text, while throwing in allegations about other editors. Offtopic talk of "culture war" really doesn't help. Please slow down and take more care, Wikipedia is not a battleground. It may be frustrating for you when other editors don't keep up with your flow of ideas, but time is needed to research and respond to your comments, and more patience will allow fruitful discussions. . . dave souza, talk 17:14, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

LOL. You've written this as a reaction to me posting on your talk page. Seen all this type of set-up before. Indeed it is not a battlefield User:Dave souza. --Andrew Lancaster (talk) 18:38, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
Seen it before? Then you should appreciate that such discussion is the first stage in dispute resolution, which I very much hope won't be needed. Please try to keep on topic and work in a collegiate way, . dave souza, talk 18:56, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
Just a note to say thanks for working together to find agreements on a direction for improving the article, I think we're making useful clarifications and appreciate the additional sources that you've found. . dave souza, talk 21:30, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

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Article on E-M35 and Languages

Hi, are you the author of: Y Haplogroups, Archaeological Cultures and Language Families: A Review of the Possibility of Multidisciplinary Comparisons Using the Case of Haplogroup E-M35? If so there are some things in it that aren't consistent with the archaeological record even in 2009. I also see these same mistakes in other very recent articles too. Aikavol3265381519 (talk) 21:01, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Re: Common Sense

Andrew, Hi. I just wanted to let you know that I replied to your comment on my talk page, if you had not already ascertained that. Thanks for your post and assistance. Steve. Stevenmitchell (talk) 17:22, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

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I have seen that you have removed some of the information I put into the Clan MacLea article with your reason being that the information related to the Lowland Livingstone family. Ok, well I have a question: Which family do the current chiefs, who have the actual surname Livingstone, come from ? There is nothing in the article to say who the current chiefs named Livingstone are descended from historically. Surely if they are from the Lowland Livingstones then information relating to the family of the Lowlands should be included in the article. I am curious because the article currently says that: "In the mid seventeenth century James Livingston of Skirling, who was of a branch of these Lowland Livingstons, was granted a nineteen-year lease of the Bishoprics of Argyll and the Isles. Sometime before 1648, James Livingston seems to have stayed at Achanduin Castle on Lismore, and it is thought that around this time that the surname Livingstone would have been adopted by MacLeas on the islands". (I have checked the official website of the Standing Council of Scottish Chiefs and found that the chief of Clan MacLea is indeed named Livingstone, so that is all in order).[1] QuintusPetillius (talk) 16:31, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

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