User talk:Care4elderly

Note, please add new comments to the end of this page - I have moved your help request down there. Chzz ► 11:48, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your uploaded image

I had to reword the description of your image to prevent Conflict of Interest. I suggest you keep it that way to prevent yourself from getting hard-blocked from Wikipedia.

Also, your username is of concern, so if you can change it you may be able to add your article to Wikipedia with a few adjustments. mechamind 9 0 06:11, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Counsel and Care

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A tag has been placed on Counsel and Care requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article, which appears to be about a real person, individual animal(s), an organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, does not indicate how or why the subject of the article is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that you can assert the notability of the subject, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} at the top of the article, immediately below the speedy deletion ({{db-...}}) tag (if no such tag exists, the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate), and providing your reasons for contesting on the article's talk page, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. You may freely add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Wikipedia guidelines.

You may want to read the guidelines for specific types of articles: biographies, websites, bands, or companies. Mean as custard (talk) 16:37, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

HELP!

I need help with creating an article for a UK National charity called Counsel and Care for the Elderly. I created the page and got a comment from an editor below which I read to be quite positive. I thought I was on the right track and that I could publish it soon. However, it got speedily deleted. Is there a way of recovering this or challenging this as I didn't write it like an advertisement and didn't get a chance to correct whatever 'Mean as Custard' deemed wrong. Thanks, Philip.

~~Answering this now, please wait a few minutes.~~

Before doing anything else, please change your username.

It is not permitted to have a company name as a username, see WP:CORPNAME.

Because you have very few edits, the easiest way is to simply 'abandon' this account - change the password to something very long, and forget it - and create a new one.

Once you have done that, please use a {{helpme}} on the talk page of your new user name, and explain that your old name was "Ccarewiki", then we can look at userfying the deleted article.

Alternatively, if you wish, you can request a change of username in WP:CHU.

Either of those would be acceptable, but it is essential that you change your username, before we do anything else.

Best, Chzz ► 11:53, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome CcarewikiCare4elderly

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Part of the solution.

The only thing I can really suggest is to go to WP:CHU for a new username.

I'm not an expert on deletion criteria for A7, though. It may require an administrator who is very familiar with A7. All I know is that it generally means the article did not indicate how it was connected to a well known subject (a safe bet being that subject has its own Wikipedia article)
The other thing I know you could do is request to restore the deleted page to your user space.
Note that you should only do the above after changing your username.

mechamind 9 0 16:10, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My reply to your Help page query...

I am copying the relevant parts of my reply here, in case you have not seen it on the Help page

Do you have reliable, independent sources which can verify the information? Does it meet the general notability guidelines and the notability guidelines for organisations? -- if you weren't aware, if you click on the underlined words/phrases in that sentence, it will link to the relevant policies and guidelines which Wikipedia has for reliable/independent sources, verifiability, the general notability guidelines and the notability guidelines specifically for organisations.

The most important part of my response is the fact that the organisation needs to be notable as Wikipedia understands it: this is not the same as "noble" or "worthy" - there are many charities, organisations and companies who perform excellent services, such as C&C, but which do not meet the criteria for inclusion on Wikipedia. Wikipedia does not exist to publicise charities.

Regarding reliable and independent sources - none of the sources which you provided would meet the criteria, all of them being from the organisation itself, and so not independent. It may seem strange that an organisation cannot be counted as being "reliable", but the organisation's website will usually not be neutral - it exists to promote the organisation, after all!

The best sources are national newspapers (such as the Times, the Telegraph, the Independent, the Guardian, etc) or sources like the BBC.

I would have to disagree with what Gandalf61 said in his response to your query, as I do not think that the BBC News link provided meets the "significant coverage" which is required - the whole mention is His call for a levy was supported by Counsel and Care, a charity for elderly people. Stephen Burke, chief executive of the charity, said: "With our ageing population, the care funding gap will continue to grow without radical reform and proper funding.". However, if further coverage could be found at reliable sources, then that would be great! Looking at Google News/Archive, there were no references to the charity (all the references were to "<name> council and CARE" meaning a council, and CARE (relief agency) - I presume).

If there is any way in which I can help, please feel free to contact me on my talk page (you can get there by clicking the 'talk' link in my signature), or leave a message here, I'll see it! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 17:26, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your comments. The charity is Counsel and Care - not Council. It's a charity for older people (over 65). Please can I have the page restored which was created in the username CCarewiki so that I can make it more Wikipedia moderator friendly. Thanks. --Care4elderly (talk) 10:42, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]