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List of Russian supercentenarians

It looks clear that the article has been deleted after a false argument that there are only 26 verified supercentenarians ever while there are more then 1000 of them and 85 are currently living. The community consensus was to Keep the article.--217.67.189.2 (talk) 09:44, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Other neat portal ideas for longer term

  • Longer term ideas to think about from other portals:
  1. Events section, like: "On this day" e.g., Biography, Religion, United States; "Selected anniversaries" e.g., War; "Calendar" at Holidays. Interesting idea of "Month selected anniversaries", at Oregon.
  2. Model intro with some rotating images, after Portal:Oregon, Portal:Indiana, Portal:Iceland/Intro and Portal:Philosophy of science/Intro.
  3. Revamp DYK sections w/ free-use images, model after Portal:Criminal justice and Portal:Oregon.
  4. Portal palettes at User:RichardF/Palettes/Portals. Comparable color schemes can be developed from the various hue lists at User:RichardF/Palettes. Also see Portal:Box-header.
  5. If there are a lot of categories, then categories section to 2 columns, like in Portal:Indiana.
    Also take some time to check out style/formatting at Portal:Indiana Cirt (talk)

Note to self

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See models at The General in His Labyrinth and Mario Vargas Llosa.

More info. Cirt (talk)

More at Wikipedia:Harvard citation template examples.

And Template talk:Harvard citation no brackets.

Cirt (talk)

Dispatch

Cirt, Awadewit suggested that you might be interested in writing a Signpost Dispatch article on Featured portals (the only area of featured content we haven't covered). Sample previous articles are at {{FCDW}}. We've covered:

None of them start out looking like that: if an editor initially just chunks in some text, many others chip in to tweak it up to Signpost standards. For example, someone wrote this, which Karanacs, Royalbroil and I turned into this, so if you just chunk in some text as a start, others can help finish it off. Another example, I put in this outline, and Karanacs brought it up to this. Other editors have written almost complete and clean Dispatches without much need for other editing. If you're interested, please weigh in and coordinate at WT:FCDW In case you're interested, you could just begin sandboxing something at WP:FCDW/Portals and pop over to WT:FCDW to leave a note when you're ready for others to help out. Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:26, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Will mull this over and most likely draft something up. Cirt (talk) 11:54, 18 November 2108 (UTC)[reply]

Razzies progress

Cirt (talk)

Deletion of Eva McConnell page

Cirt Is there any reading of the reasons given for deletion? JJR made the comment that Eva is not even a supercentenarian. Eva is the oldest person born in Australia since it became a nation. Australia is less than 110 years old. It becomes 110 on 1 January 2011. Libstar made the comment that it is ridiculous because she is the 4th oldest person in her country. But that is not the point. Edison made the point that being the 4th oldest is insufficient. But again, that is not the point. Yeti Hunter states that he/she agrees with JJR. (see above). The only person who does not make a mistaken point is David in DC. Anyone deleting the page must surely take this into account. Take away these mistakes and the vote is to keep. These people may agree with David in DC, but that is not what they said. Alan Davidson (talk) 03:23, 2 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Consensus determined the article to be deleted, after the deletion discussion. However, I would be most willing to provide a copy for you to work on, within a subpage of your userspace, if you so wish it. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 03:49, 2 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
What I am pointing out is that all the "delete" comments except one were in error. Surely that cannot be a consensus. I don't believe it is a matter of opinion. The reasons given for deletion were in error. My concern is to blindly delete based on incorrect reasons and perceptions. Alan Davidson (talk) 07:23, 2 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Respectfully disagree with your opinion that it was "blindly" deleted. -- Cirt (talk) 07:25, 2 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that there can be different opinions which diagree; and I gave an example of that, namely David in DC. The others all gave reasons that were in error, making assumptions why the page was significant. I don't believe that is disputed. I believe that "blindly" counting the fors and against without looking at the reasons is the problem. I am asking you - don't you think the reasons count? I am happy for David in DC to disagree and others, but the others did not - they wanted it deleted for spurious reasons. The proper vote for the reasons is one against. Alan Davidson (talk) 08:48, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Not going to rehash the AFD at this page. Again, I emphasize to you my willingness that I would be most happy to restore a version of the page within a subpage of your userspace, so you can work on a proposed draft version there - if you so wish it. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 09:20, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I am asking quite politely for your rationale, which you seem to be avoiding. I suggested you "blindly" followed the votes without looking at the reasons. Please address my questions like "don't you think the reasons count?" Please don't fob me off. I sincerely am stating that all but one reasons against was wrong in fact, from either a biased or unbiased view. It seems so wrong to delete a page on these misconceptions. Alan Davidson (talk) 09:12, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Now you are repeating yourself and this discussion is going in circles. If you refuse to take my offer of userfying the page to a subpage of your userspace so that you may work on it further there as a proposed draft version, and your only desire is to re-argue the AFD over and over, then perhaps the next step is WP:DRV. -- Cirt (talk) 14:12, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I am politely asking for your rationale. Why avoid that? I am only asking again because you refuse. Should this go to arbitration? I thought it was a reasonable thing to ask? Truly. Look at my record, I am not beligerent. I am simply trying to point out what I believe is an error, and you respond by not responding. Please copy it to my page if you wish, but that is not what I am asking for? Please answer me. Alan Davidson (talk) 00:39, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well almost a week and still no response to any of my questions. That speaks for itself. I understand the haste for your actions... I will now unwatch your page. Alan Davidson (talk) 03:48, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edwin Ubiles

Would you mind restoring Edwin Ubiles? He is now a professional basketball player, which satisfies notability. ~EDDY (talk/contribs/editor review)~ 17:13, 7 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It was a poorly sourced WP:BLP. You can create a well-sourced version cited to WP:RS sources, and/or I could move the deleted version to a subpage of your userspace, and you could improve its sourcing there, before moving it into article mainspace. -- Cirt (talk) 00:52, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Or you could recreate the article and I could add sources right afterward. ~EDDY (talk/contribs)~ 05:18, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

User:Msm041/Tetrafusion

I've restored the article which I'd userified in the process of closing the DRV, which you were doing simultaneously. While the deletion was endorsed, there's nothing particularly problematic about the article from a BLP perspective. I assume you didn't see who moved it? I'm all ears if you've seen a problem I missed. Cheers, Jclemens (talk) 17:08, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

IP Block Exempt

Thanks much. I appreciate it. - Nellis 19:03, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, -- Cirt (talk) 19:05, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gbiasi

Cirt, could you chime in at User talk:Gbiasi? He's asking for a review of his username block, and I can't see anything obviously screwy. I presume there was some other activity going on at the time, but I'm missing it. thanks! Kuru (talk) 22:50, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Done, I unblocked the account. -- Cirt (talk) 15:56, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Beauty, thanks. Kuru (talk) 16:07, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Help

I created page I Love Bacon! and i wanted to you to look it over(its a stub right now). I dont know why the title is in italics. Spongie555 (talk) 06:01, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, okay, I will do some research on this. -- Cirt (talk) 15:56, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

I notice that you are working very hard over at DYK. I appreciate your dedication! -- Ssilvers (talk) 06:20, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Your kind words are most appreciated! -- Cirt (talk) 15:56, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Portal:Law

As part of a revamp of the portal, I've adedd Portal:Law/Selected article/9, in a blatant bid to win your support if and when I take it to FPOC! BencherliteTalk 15:53, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, thanks! ;) -- Cirt (talk) 15:56, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, forgot to warn the IP. Thanks for that. I'll try and keep an eye on things. BencherliteTalk 15:59, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Mission: Earth, Voyage to the Home Planet

The DYK project (nominate) 18:03, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Request for apology and undertaking to not treat others as you have treated me

Cirt,

I previously made several edits to Wikipedia, about a year ago. I approached them carefully, and I feel that you Cirt, dealt with me arbitrarily, and did not give due consideration to my acting in good faith.

The edits I made were with regard to Georgism ( http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Georgism&diff=prev&oldid=300020159 and http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Georgism&diff=prev&oldid=299028068 ) Local Currency ( http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Local_currency&diff=prev&oldid=182470175 ) the American Monetary Institute ( http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=American_Monetary_Institute&diff=prev&oldid=182077522 ) and the Way to Happiness ( http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Way_to_Happiness&diff=prev&oldid=315443336 ).

Of these, the only one that persists is the one on Local Currency. There was an agreement about the second Georgist edit, but it has since been lost in revisions.

Previously to making several of these edits, I posted to the talk page about making them, see : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:American_Monetary_Institute ; http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Georgism&oldid=299051494 - which indicated a good faith attempt at edits, by posting edits to the discussion for a given web page, as suggested on that web page.

The posting made to my user site by you was a boilerplate/cookie cutter comment which showed no investigation as to the context and my own history of asking first, and making an effort to be reasonable about my my edits. I had in fact only put in the "fact" comment on another article. This is what you could have done with regard to my own edits, together with a suggestion that there be a dialogue about it, with you developing things in stages.

I was willing to agree to have some content taken off if was seen as not appropriate, I'm not sure about the conflict of interest claim, but I was certainly willing to discuss it at the time. Separately, the manner in which you operated left me cold to Wikipedia. My issue is not about any particular edit, but rather the way you conducted yourself.

The Mencius reference was done in good faith; I put in a web link because it would be easily verifiable, while I had a paper reference.

Likewise, the comment on the American_Monetary_Institute was done in good faith; the lack of content has since prompted bots to give it a "stub" status, with a suggestion that "you can help improve this page". Great. Yeah. Like I'd be motivated to after my experience. I still assert that my content was neutral and worthwhile for someone trying to make sense of Zarlenga's position. At the time I'd pushed things with the Mencius reference didn't have the stamina to go on.

I would like an apology from you on this and an undertaking to treat other new edits more fairly, making an investigation of the context of their edits and putting in "fact" comments rather than immediate edits, and not putting kneejerk boilerplate / cookie cutter comments on their talk page.

The whole experience has left me cold. I believe I make good faith and generally worthwhile edits to Wikipedia; I might have contributed more, but do not feel this will ever be the case. In any case, I would appreciate the above apology and undertaking from you.

JohnAugust (talk) 21:22, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, the bulk of your edits were non-constructive. They included inserting spam links [1], and posting of unsourced material [2]. -- Cirt (talk) 21:28, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You have made a bland assurance and not engaged with my content at all.I challenge your claim. If you do not engage with what I am saying I will take this to dispute resolution. JohnAugust (talk) 04:11, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong. I cited diffs of your spam links [3] [4], and your blatant insertion of wholly unsourced info [5]. -- Cirt (talk) 06:21, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Blatant ? While trying to figure out what was what, I noted on the chat page the material I intended to post. I think that in fact shows my genuine intent, my good faith, something you refuse to recognise. Further, you've not proven all the material is as you assert - I ended up putting in the Mencius quote in an agreed fashion - clearly the edit was genuine. Other edits could be likewise genuine if you don't assume that what you say is the case merely because you say it is. In addition, you've not engaged with the material I've put forth in my initial comment above. That's what I meant, and it should have been pretty clear. I plan to take this to dispute resolution around the 20th of this month, unless you make some engagement with what I'm saying. JohnAugust (talk) 09:59, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I gave you two templated warnings, no more, which is the appropriate manner in which to deal with new users adding spam links, unsourced info, and conflict of interest material. -- Cirt (talk) 13:53, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Energon (power source)

I know it's been a while since the AFD, but I'd appreciate it if you could userfy Energon (power source) for me.

Thank you for your time, --Divebomb (talk) 09:30, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Done, now at User:Divebomb/Energon (power source). -- Cirt (talk) 13:59, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Hopefully I can address the lack of references that caused the deletion in the first place now. ----Divebomb is not British 16:56, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome message

In fact, I'm [email protected], but even 6 years later, Mediawiki *still* does not have a "add your username and password to a posting, and post as logged in" feature, and I was too lazy to retype it all. Nice bot, though; thanks.  :-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.34.94.26 (talk) 16:20, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

User:Yrsukrutt alt of User:LyfjahonnunGroup1

It looks like the Lyfjahonnun group has created a new account. Since you used a spamblock and not a softerblock, I figured I'd let you know. We may need a subject matter expert in order to figure out whether these contributions are constructive or not.

Then there's the original article:

I'm not sure what needs to be done to untangle this. Gigs (talk) 17:33, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest you file a report to WP:SPI. -- Cirt (talk) 17:34, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Is that really the way to go? I mean we did ask them to change their username or create a new account because it was against policy. Gigs (talk) 19:34, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hrm, perhaps WP:COIN. -- Cirt (talk) 19:36, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Werner Erhard vs. Columbia Broadcasting System for deletion

A discussion has begun about whether the article Werner Erhard vs. Columbia Broadcasting System, which you created or to which you contributed, should be deleted. While contributions are welcome, an article may be deleted if it is inconsistent with Wikipedia policies and guidelines for inclusion, explained in the deletion policy.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Werner Erhard vs. Columbia Broadcasting System until a consensus is reached, and you are welcome to contribute to the discussion.

You may edit the article during the discussion, including to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. -- Cirt (talk) 17:51, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not at all. I read the article and found it most interesting - and sourced up to the eyeballs as is the norm with your work. Fainites barleyscribs 18:46, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah I had to do that on Attachment therapy and other attachment articles for the same reasons. You have to be prepared to source every sentence, post long quotes on the talkpage and cite qualifications/publishers and what have you for the sources. SPA's have various ways of getting round this that you kind of get used to. The AT socks used to conduct polls to state sources said the opposite of what they actually said. The anti-Bowlby editor used to start new articles and then remove selected posts from discussions to new talk pages leaving the meat of the argument behind! Fainites barleyscribs 18:55, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The only solution I've found is meticulous sourcing, posting chunks of sources on the talkpage and maintaining an icy calm. SPAsock behaviour usually becomes apparent over time but it's hard going.Fainites barleyscribs 21:56, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Spacefarer (talk) 17:35, 13 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]


WP:OUTING

Please review this policy, and don't make that irrelevant and offensive personal attack again. In case you didn't notice, I was the one who made the other AFD nomination. Review WP:COI, too, before you falsely accuse me of violating it. THF (talk) 22:00, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You self-disclosed your COI, here [6]. -- Cirt (talk) 22:02, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And I disclosed it in the AFD itself. Which is what WP:COI asks one to do. So why are you making a false accusation that's (1) entirely irrelevant and (2) a personal attack? THF (talk) 22:04, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hooray

For removal of unsourced articles from the main page. The chattering classes at Talk:Main Page are pretty ridiculous; calling for a decrease in compliance with core policies eg WP:V by replacing FAs with random unsourced articles, instead of bothering to look for an article that is actually sourced. lol YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 01:00, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. ;) Hope you are doing well, -- Cirt (talk) 14:15, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

IP address and user having suspiciously similar edits

Sorry to bother you with this. I couldn't really find a forum where this would go. I went to portal film looking for an administrator and found your name there so...

I have been editing the article mumblecore for the past few weeks. One anon editor User:99.48.214.16 has been taking out films listed as mumblecore, with references indicating some connection to mumblecore. I have been adding them back in. Today, an editor User:Ohwhataslaughter removed the same three films but gave an edit summary, something I requested the IP to do. Because of that, instead of reverting the edits, I took the conversation to the talk page.

However, the edit histories of the IP and Ohwhataslaughter are very similar, although the last time Ohwhataslaughter edited wikipedia, before today, was 2008.

I am wondering if this is something that should be pursued or not? XinJeisan (talk) 08:33, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I would suggest filing a request at WP:SPI. -- Cirt (talk) 14:15, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I just did so. Thanks for your help XinJeisan (talk) 03:53, 13 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your comment blanking on Talk:Sharron Angle

Some good reason for this, Cirt?[7]24.18.132.13 (talk) 11:04, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is block evasion, see the IP's block log. -- Cirt (talk) 14:14, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unblock request fromTropicallanterns

There is an unblock request at User talk:Tropicallanterns. The user is offering to change user name. A quick look at their edit history does not give me the impression that their is any problem, so I am inclined to accept the request, but thought it better to check with you first. JamesBWatson (talk) 12:03, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No objections to an unblock in that case. -- Cirt (talk) 14:14, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

alt text in infoboxes

Hi. I was adding alt text to an image in I Love Bacon! and went to do it for the image in the book infobox as well, but they don't seem to have that facility/option. I had the same problem with the play infobox at La Tosca. Given the requirement for alt text for FA and DYK images, I would have thought infoboxes should have it, or at least an option to add it. Any suggestions? Voceditenore (talk) 14:35, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am not the best expert on that issue, sorry. :P -- Cirt (talk) 14:36, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your harassment

Please read the WP:COIN introduction:

Please note that the conflict of interest guidelines do not require editors with conflicts of interest to avoid editing altogether. An editor who has disclosed a conflict is complying with the guideline when they discuss proposed changes on a talk page, or make non-controversial edits in mainspace consistent with other Wikipedia policies and guidelines. Furthermore, accusing another editor of having a conflict of interest in order to gain the upper hand in a content dispute is prohibited.

Then please apologize to me and strike your false allegation. You're going to get both of us sued. THF (talk) 14:55, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  1. Warned by Jehochman: "THF should not be commenting here. By his own admission, he's involved in a lawsuit with the subject."
  2. Warned by Nomoskedasticity: "You really need to stay away from the Wolk article. COI couldn't be clearer on this, and it's beyond obvious that as a target of the subject's lawsuits you do indeed have a COI. I would request that you strike your recent comments on the AfD."
  3. You have been warned about COI by multiple other editors, before I filed the COIN report. Are you going to threaten them with lawsuits, as well? -- Cirt (talk) 14:57, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I responded to both Jehochman and Nomo. Neither claimed I did anything wrong once I pointed out their mistake. I haven't threatened anyone with lawsuits. Why do you think it's permissible for you to ignore what COIN says and harass an innocent editor? THF (talk) 15:01, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, and you have failed to abide by their warnings, as well. -- Cirt (talk) 15:03, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Please answer the question: why do you think you're allowed to harass editors by ignoring the appropriate use of the COIN messageboard? THF (talk) 15:06, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with this comment, by Uncle G (talk · contribs). -- Cirt (talk) 17:48, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Slee

Thank you for your improvements. I still believe the article should reflect more of the chronology of the case as well as the facts of Slee's death. I have replied on the GA1 sub-talk listing sources and the information I found in them. I certainly want to conclude this review as quickly as possible, but I suggest that it would be worth your time to restructure the sections describing the lawsuit to give more of a sense of the passage of time, what happened when, etc. For example, you could take the complaint and list the different causes of action used to bring the lawsuit. Then describe the discovery battle, the fact that both sides offered expert witnesses, the trial, and then the appeal including the issues raised on appeal. Please let me know what you think of this suggestion. I just want this article to be NPOV and complete. Thanks, Racepacket (talk) 16:46, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

inre Cad Bane

This article was originally an unsourced plot-only article that had turned into a reasonable redirect in April of 2009.[8] Editor User:Jhenderson777 felt it had potential and expanded and sourced the old redirect to recreate the article.[9] However, problems arose with possible copyvio and the article was tagged for such.[10] He has userfied his work so that he can address concerns, but out of mainspace. As an admin, could/would you please revert the article back to its safe April 25, 2009 redirect status?[11] Jhenderson777 would like to continue work on his improvements in userspace and not have it considered for return to mainspace until all agree that the concerns have been completely addressed. Do-able? Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 21:37, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hrm, perhaps you could raise this issue at Wikipedia:Content noticeboard or at WP:ANI. -- Cirt (talk) 05:11, 13 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thought a simple Admin-only type rollback was right up your alley. But as I do not believe the concern raised by User:The Bushranger about the JJhenderson777's recent version reflected an intentional intent to copyvio on the part of Jhenderson777, and most specially as Jhenderson777 wishes to have the concern removed from article space while he addresses the issue, I do not think ANI is quite the correct venue. So I have taken your advice and posted the question/rerquest at Wikipedia:Content noticeboard#copyright problem at Cad Bane. Thanks for the advice. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 06:53, 13 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ball Park Music

Hi Cirt, can I please get the deleted article for Ball Park Music restored so I can expand and reference it. Thanks. duffbeerforme (talk) 04:50, 13 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Done, now at User:Duffbeerforme/Ball Park Music. -- Cirt (talk) 05:13, 13 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pittsburgh Tri-State

[12] Hi Cirt, I'm not familiar with how to exactly go about this, I will I guess just add a hotlink line to my profile but the discussion I'm not sure how that will manifest itself. Sorry if this sounds jumbled not used to defending cited pages that are guilty to be proven innocent but it was my intention to take you up on your offer. I will however educate myself on wikipolicy on this though and I appreciate your efforts to put this to consensus. Thank you. Hholt01 (talk) 15:28, 13 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Done, userfied now at User:Hholt01/Pittsburgh Tri-State. -- Cirt (talk) 11:53, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ANI notice

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Concern about administrative conduct on deletion request. Thank you.

Am notifying for discussion starter. Strange Passerby (talk • contribs) 17:34, 13 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for this notice. -- Cirt (talk) 11:53, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Retrieving deleted Wikipedia:Sandbox/Chess

On Oct. 25, 2010, you speedy deleted Wikipedia:Sandbox/Chess. Is there any way you can get it back or at least get the information in it back, including the History? There is a chess game I played in there, which I would like to copy to another place. H Padleckas (talk) 23:09, 13 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry but there's a lot of deleted edits there, not sure that is an adequate rationale or encyclopedic. -- Cirt (talk) 11:54, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

South Park vandal

I was minded to suggest those two reports of yours at AIV go to ANEW, however, I've blocked both for a week because it's obvious they're trying to avoid a block by logging out and editing as an IP. I've hard blocked the IP, so hopefully you won't have to put up with any socks for a week. Anyway, at first glance, I can only see an edit war over images and caption in various South Park episode articles, so I'm just wondering if this is just someone determined to make a nuisance of themselves in an edit war or if there's something else going on that I'm missing. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:54, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much. ;) -- Cirt (talk) 11:53, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Alito RFPP request

I hear what you're saying, but I can't help but think that's a little premature given James' lack of direct involvement in the other articles. I'll keep my eyes on it (and SPI in mind), but for now I think the benefit of the doubt is appropriate. - Simon Dodd { U·T·C·WP:LAW } 15:14, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, sounds good. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 15:14, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GAN

Hey Cirt, I don't know if I should ask you since you and have shared some bacon together in the past, but I was wondering if you could have a look at the two articles I have listed at GAN--Guillaume de Dole and The Land of Green Plums. I know you've reviewed a lot of books and I think you're an equal opportunity offender; I have faith in your objectivity. As an aside, I had a look at The Book of est, and I think it looks great, but it made me realize that there's a lot I need to learn here to help reviewing GANs--give me some time and I'll come to help the project there. Thanks in advance, Drmies (talk) 15:58, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I will strive to get to that soon. -- Cirt (talk) 17:09, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oh! Cirt! Since I see you're not busy, can you take care of this also? And walk my dogs? Thanks--you're great! Drmies (talk) 19:31, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Can you take a look?

I was alerted to TheTimesAreAChanging (talk · contribs) by YellowMonkey on my talk page. I just went by to check the contribs and saw that you had already researched something and posted on the related ANI discussion and warned him on his talk page. There are now subsequent edit summaries like "undo random, blanking of sourced material for no stated reason by YellowMonkey, who has privately told me he intends to vandalize this article because he hates Kissinger the evil war criminal", "ditto; outlandish and absurd conspiracy theories from far-left propagandists and chomsky cultists should not be obsessively regurgitated in a barely literate fashion on Wikipedia, you poor adolescent" etc. I've got to step out now and don't have the time to investigate, but since you've already had a look-in could you relook at this? cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 18:26, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. -- Cirt (talk) 18:35, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. —SpacemanSpiff 21:12, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

John W. Flores

I believe that you are an admin. Can you please look at the talk page of the John W. Flores article. There is a name and phone number given, as well as an e-mail address of an unconfirmed user. It seems to me that this kind of info can't be verified and should be removed. I'd do it myself, but I am uncertain about deleting the content of other people's comments...as well as how to delete it from the history. Your attention would be appreciated. Thanks! The Eskimo (talk) 20:00, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion despite meeting Wikipedia requirements for notability

Hello Cirt,

Why was the Artificial Peace page deleted despite meeting FOUR Wikipedia requirements for notability for musicians and ensembles? Please note that the rules state a band must only meet ONE such rule to be deemed notable.

Below are the criteria listed on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_%28music%29 that Artificial Peace satisfies:

1) Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable and are independent from the musician or ensemble itself.

Artificial Peace has been the subject of at least THREE books:

ONE: Andersen, Mark & Jenkins, Mark (2001), Dance of Days: Two Decades of Punk in the Nation's Capitol, New York, NY: Akashic Books, ISBN 1-888451-44-0.

TWO: Connolly, Cynthia; Clague, Leslie & Cheslow, Sharon (1988), Banned in DC: Photos and Anecdotes From the DC Punk Underground 1979-85, Washington, DC: Sun Dog Propaganda, ISBN 978-0-9620944-0-8 .

THREE: Blush, Steven & Petros, George (2001) American, George Hardcore: a Tribal History Feral House, ISBN-10: 0922915717

5) Has released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years and a roster of performers, many of whom are notable).

  • In addition to the multiple Artificial Peace vinyl records released in the 1980s on Dischord and other labels (and later reissued on CD), Dischord Records just released the entire Artificial Peace 1981 sessions. Dischord, [one of the more famous independent labels (it says so on Wikipedia)] has demonstrated that, even to this day, the band has merit by releasing this music after 29 years in the vault.

6) Is an ensemble which contains two or more independently notable musicians, or is a musician who has been a member of two or more independently notable ensembles.

  • Members of Artificial Peace went on to form Marginal Man as well as become a member of Government Issue. Two other notable bands from the Washington D.C. music scene and have Wikipedia pages.

7) Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city; note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability.

  • Of Artificial Peace, Ian MacKaye has written, "their effect on the DC scene was significant and played a sure role in the evolution of the music." Please note that the Wikipedia page on the DC scene begins with the following sentence: "Washington, D.C. has had one of the first and most influential hardcore punk scenes in the United States since the early 1980s."

Only one of the four above criteria is needed to satisfy the requirements for notability for musicians and ensembles.

Please restore the Artificial Page page or explain why it has been deleted despite meeting the criteria for notability.

Thank you.

RM

67.189.13.84 (talk) 22:07, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest you register an account on Wikipedia. Then, you could work on a proposed draft version, within a subpage of your userpage space. -- Cirt (talk) 22:16, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Cirt,

Thank you for your suggestion. Is that standard operating procedure for such a situation? I've already spent a considerable amount of time building and formatting the page, as well as searching for and then citing multiple 3rd party references. And then I've spent even more time defend something that already meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability. I don't mean to seem cynical, but why should I believe I'll be treated any differently if I follow your suggestion? Please advise.

Thank you.

RM

67.189.13.84 (talk) 01:31, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I assure you, once you register an account on Wikipedia, I will provide you with a copy of the deleted page to work on as a proposed draft version, within a subpage of your userpage space. -- Cirt (talk) 01:35, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Allthing

Cirt, You recently deleted Allthing per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allthing. Could you re-create the page as a redirect to Althing, the Icelandic Parliament? Several users suggested doing this, and this is a highly likely misspelling which should be redirected. Thanks, D O N D E groovily Talk to me 02:29, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No objections to you doing so yourself. -- Cirt (talk) 02:33, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Grenfell College Student Union

Hi Cirt,

Recently, you deleted the Grenfell College Student Union page as per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grenfell College Student Union. I feel, again, quite disheartened by the fact that Wikipedians were given only eight days from when it was previously restored from Speedy Deletion to fix up the article. Furthermore, the note of one user on the discussion towards the deletion notes there only being a few sources directly integrated into page which mentions the Union in passing... while another user had posted several valid sources in the deletion discussion as examples of what was to be integrated. As we have only had a single day over a week to do so, we've not been successful in integrating all of the sources that I and a few other interested users have found to integrate into the page. I'd ask if you could restore said page so that we can have a real shot at getting those things properly formatted and having a legitimate article herein. I'm interested in trying to improve all of the pages related to Memorial University of Newfoundland and this is a just another part in doing so -- as all articles tied to it are fairly weak.

All the best, Brad Evoy (talk) 07:28, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

my user page

any way to get the data that was there, i don't want to recreate the page but i do want the data. Vlame (talk) 09:03, 16 November 2010 (UTC)vlame[reply]

DYK for Leavenworth Nutcracker Museum

The DYK project (nominate) 18:07, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

I can't finish the review

Send Don't Forget the Bacon! back to the GAN page. I'm being "investigated" for "too close paraphrasing". :) Brother, what next? I guess I'm expected to rewrite about a hundred articles. I can't do that. Anyway, check your article through for "too close paraphrasing" of the sources, revise if necessary, and resubmit. Susanne2009NYC (talk) 01:34, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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