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Question

Thanks for all your help. I appreciate it. I will keep plugging away trying to improve the citations for the information on this page. It's not easy getting the hang of this but with time i am sure that I will. Wikipedia is really an incredible resource that has changed the information game in a profound way! I will be back later to keep working on these issues that have been clearly identified. Best, Auerbach88 (talk) 17:32, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]


How do you add references? Rileyschneider (talk) 04:34, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • a. you can click on edit and see what I did; b. look at Wikipedia:Citing sources (that's maybe more than you want; c. drop a note at Wikipedia:Teahouse, which is full of nice people willing to help. Make sure your sources are good--don't go around citing commercial websites and fan sites and what not. Newspapers are best for your topic; see also WP:RS, in case you haven't done the research paper in Freshman Comp yet. And that source I added says he won that competition three times, not four--I have to take their word over yours.

    I saved your article for the moment by adding a few citations and toning the language down a bit (that whole "best rider ever" stuff doesn't fly in an encyclopedia); good luck with it! Drmies (talk) 04:38, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

OK, now he's socking. Softlavender (talk) 17:11, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, it's kind of silly. Ha, no good deed goes unpunished. Drmies (talk) 18:53, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
My thoughts exactly. Softlavender (talk) 06:12, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

For a hagiographer

Time to pull the plug

Since you are an admin that took part in the "Slow-walking, sweet-talking Jones" discussion at AN/I, can you please pull the plug and end this, one way or the other? Nothing good is coming of it. There are new personal attacks that are drawing in bystanders. What is the point of letting this run on? --Dennis Bratland (talk) 20:57, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • I agreed to use greater care and respect AGF and WP:CIVIL. User:Skyring has decided this is his opportunity to attempt to taunt and provoke me [2] because he's decided to build a case against me: User:Skyring/DBPromises. When I asked him to respect civility policy[3][4], he responded with more taunts [5]. This comment spells it out clearly: he thinks I'm vulnerable, and therefore an easy tartget for taunts, baiting, and personal attacks, and if I object, he thinks he can use it against me. So he has free license to hound and provoke me.

    If I take this back to ANI, it's just going to be yet another 10,000 word shouting match. Skyring was clearly Wikihounding me before, and now he has decided to take it to another level, without fear of consequences. I don't see a point in a block, but can he be put on notice to find another target for his uncivil behavior, or else face sanctions? --Dennis Bratland (talk) 20:03, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Skyring, Pete, I really don't want to get in between you and another editor again. Nor do I want to look at all the diffs Dennis Bratland has provided, and maybe a set of counterdiffs, and etc. I will say that WP:POLEMIC applies to that page in your user space. Back in the old days you could have such material if you were preparing an RfC/U, but those days have gone. Right now it says you can't have such materials "if they will not be imminently used", so please keep that in mind. Dennis Bratland may be wrong in all kinds of ways, I don't know, but hounding is still a policy violation. I really, really, hope that you two can leave each other alone. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 20:26, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Time to pull another plug

What is your issue with my updates to Independence Day? How do you reference "apparently destroyed" to anything except the imagery in the film?

Bd64kcmo (talk) 21:11, 13 January 2016 (UTC)bd64kcmoBd64kcmo (talk) 21:11, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • It's redundant, a waste of words--and original research. This is an encyclopedia: we don't do "presumably" unless a reliable source says it. As a side note, I was the third editor to revert you; that should tell you something. Drmies (talk) 03:17, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

RegardingvWarning

Why did u send me the warning notification?What wrong I have done? Ultrastar1989 (talk) 23:09, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Cullen, that's a really good option. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 13:04, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Assistance Might Be Required

Hey Drmies, I might need your help regarding the West Virginia Radio Corporation page. User:Patrickrinehart made several edits (including several removals) to the page back on the 6th.

He posted to my talk page saying he was the company's "Corporate Director of Digital". I responded back and made the changes requested with the exception of the removal of stations.

The user posted again today regarding the same issue. The language ("I need to make changes" and "the same changes I made originally") along with the obvious not reading of my last post, show that this user might become a problem. I did respond to the new post.

I believe there is a clear COI problem here and I believe the company might be trying to whitewash their Wikipedia page as part of a station buy. The station buy has brought their operation of a few stations (the same ones the user is wanting to delete from the page) into question by the FCC.

I'm not completely sure how to proceed at this point, so I am bringing this to your attention. I'm also pinging Diannaa and Mlaffs as they are knowledgable in radio stations as well. - NeutralhomerTalk23:18, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I've notified the user about our conflict of interest guideline and our disclosure requirement regarding paid editig. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 23:26, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Diannaa! Good enough, Homer? :) Drmies (talk) 03:12, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, that'll work. Thanks! :) - Neutralhomer has EscapedTalk07:27, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

ANI

All the old dudes

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Ed 11 ed (talk) 06:55, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

My oh my, is he persistent... PS: I put my LP-player at the livingroom again, connected with two computer-speakers, and played my old Bowie-LPs again. Bought most of them in 1992, and had to find a job then because I spent too much money on buyig second hand LPs. Those were the days! Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 07:31, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
All The Young Dudes, Joshua Jonathan. I owned a "rock and roll hits" record store in the Detroit suburbs in 1971-1972, when Bowie was first taking off in the U.S. Selling his records was total enjoyment, apartment rent and 99 cent Coney Island hotdog meals. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 08:09, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Low and Station to Station in the kitchen, Diamond Dogs in the car, The Man Who Sold the World at work. I'll switch em out today. Cullen, you are rock and roll. Drmies (talk) 13:06, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, a great loss, notwithstanding his penchant for thermally challenged vagrants: [6]. Vain Man Rest 123 (talk) 20:14, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ha, that's from a Dutch show--TopPop. I wonder what kind of guitar that is; maybe a Burns or something? Yes, you look divine. Drmies (talk) 04:08, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
What a groovy show. Yes, maybe a Burns, but more of a statement I feel. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:50, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Grammatical assistance

Have you seen the notification (I highlighted your name)? Then, get busy man! I forgot to write it in my summary, it's reference #5 in the article (the last). Indeed, RIP Ziggy, but also Scott Weiland and Lemmy (they will continue to fall like over-sarcastic ripe melons, sadly; Justin Bieber(s), where are you when you are needed?)...

All the best, as always, thanks a million in advance --84.90.219.128 (talk) 01:25, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'm not sure those pings work. I tweaked your translation--I never know the code in a template for translated title, but you do--of that rather awkward title: the "but" is uncalled for. I sang Ace of Spades on the karaoke on New Year's. Drmies (talk) 03:59, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Appeal to US editors

Apologies for using The Drmies NoticeboardTM in this way but I rarely do more than gnoming on US-centric articles. I've just expanded Tierney Dining Cars from a stub but need someone to check my spelling, terminology etc per MOS:TIES. One oddity is that the sources do in fact refer to toilet even though I'm pretty sure that the usual US term is bathroom.

Since I'm also struggling to find an image that is definitely not in copyright, if anyone happens to be in the Rhode Island area there is apparently a Tierney-based diner at 64 Brown Street, called the Wickford Diner. A photo of that might do the trick. (WP:RHODEISLAND is inactive).

Thanks in advance, and apologies once again to the owner :) Sitush (talk) 07:29, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sitush, just a small note on one of the things you queried: "Toilet" is perfectly fine American English terminology, especially since it's not clear in the wiki article whether the item referred to is the toilet itself or the room containing it (the term can refer to either; so you might want to clarify which in the wiki article if possible). "Bathroom" would not be correct in this instance in my opinion since, as the name implies, bathrooms generally contain bathtubs or showers (and thus are found mainly in residences or hotel rooms, not in public places or transportation). "Restroom" (singular, or plural if seeking both separate facilities for each gender) is the modern term/euphemism for a (generally public) room which contains only toilet(s) and sink(s), but I'm not sure when that term came into existence in case you are seeking historical-term accuracy.

(PS: Nowadays people also say "ladies' room" and/or "men's room" if being even more euphemistic, but by now in some quarters that's slightly passé except in very polite society [or maybe Down South where when I was living there some of my parents' friends still said "little girls' room" and "little boys' room" <eyeroll>]).

Hope that helps. Softlavender (talk) 08:32, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Softlavender, here in the really Deep South we say all kinds of things, depending on the time of day. I really have no opinion on what's proper and what's not, esp. now that one of the little people living in my house has reached double digits. Sitush, as you know no one "owns" anything on WP, and I gave up ownership of this page long ago--I want to thank you for the potty talk, of course. I'd love to chat--but I gotta pee. Drmies (talk) 17:45, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Restroom is the word I was thinking of, not bathroom. My ignorance is only bettered by my failing memory. (In the north-east of England, the traditional vernacular was "netty" - perhaps a prescient association of the web and where the human waste goes.) - Sitush (talk) 22:04, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
And don't forget the great euphemism "Summer house" - as in, summer for boys and summer for girls. (Sorry!) --MelanieN (talk) 22:17, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Or WC for "water closet" which makes no sense unless you know it's an old term for a bathroom. In schools, they were called "lavatories" but I never heard this term used anywhere else. Liz Read! Talk! 22:46, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • To be frank, I'd never heard the term WC / water closet before moving to Indonesia. I winced noticeably when I realized that, because of said term, Indonesians tended to associate the word "closet" with bathroom/restroom/lavatory as well; it causes physical pain to read a subtitle for "Let me get my coat out of the closet" that reads (translated) "Let me get my coat out of the bathroom."
As for euphemisms: we always used "boys' room" and "girls' room" back in school. No "little". — Chris Woodrich (talk) 02:59, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Astrid Roemer

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Cool...we had DYKs on the Main page at the same time.--Mark Miller (talk) 22:22, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Whoa: that's a pretty substantial article for such a little dish. Nice work. It's making me hungry. The Schnittchen don't look so appetizing (ha, it brings back a pretty funny memory, related to my ex-girlfriend's mother making Schnittchen for a friend of mine who was clearly trolling her with his enormous appetite...I hated her as much as she hated me, haha), but Ringier's 175th anniversary, that looks tasty. Drmies (talk) 03:32, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I gained ten pounds after I decided to field test some of the research through the holidays!--Mark Miller (talk) 04:22, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Out of touch but ...

Hi. It's been a while since I edited Wikipedia in earnest and so I am out of practice with the procedures. I was hitting random articles recently and stumbled across Helen Doron English which led to Helen Doron. I suspect the former is advertising and the latter is not notable. I have spent a fair amount of time examining both articles with a view to suggesting improvements. I cannot, however, find enough reliable sources and therefore both articles would be, in my opinion, candidate articles for deletion. I do not feel current enough to initiate that process and would thus welcome your recommendation on who, within Wikipedia, to approach. --Senra (talk) 02:24, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Eyes would be helpful

Your input would be useful: [7].Thanks. Montanabw(talk) 03:19, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oh, that's a lot of words, Montana. Drmies (talk) 03:26, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • True, perhaps just observe the actual article edits. I'm mostly concerned about keeping the personal attacks to a minimum. Skim the usernames, you'll figure it out. The crux of the talk page debate is basically a MEDRS dispute over the weight and balance between two meta-analyses ("Anestis 2014" and "Selby/Smith Osborne 2013" with a side debate over a literature review "Lentini 2015" -- all linked in the article refs -- at least last I looked) the most recent drama beginning here: [8]. Montanabw(talk) 07:23, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]