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Um, hi. This is Emily Schooley here, same as but the actual person not whoever posted the original article. (Feel free to email me at one of the addresses listed on my site for confirmation.) i appreciate your mature stance on things... yes, i did out Frozen North and will provide appropriate evidence of poor practices where it's necessary (ie not here.) i'm flattered someone made me a page, and kind of disappointed that what seems like the guys at Frozen North are trying to harass me (again) by trying to have it deleted. What do i need to do to calm everything down and put the drama llamas to sleep? :P (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily_Schooley) —Preceding unsigned comment added by EmilySchooley (talk • contribs) 23:50, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
Afd Emily Schooley
Hi Addionne, I'm not able to post on the dispute page due to the semi-protected status, but I was curious about the comment you left stating "WP:NACTOR states that if an actor has significant roles in several notable movies, then they would be considered notable. I think Miss Schooley meets this particular requirement. Just because something doesn't have a Wikipedia article, does not mean it is not notable - and some of the films have been the subject of significant coverage in multiple sources, and several have won awards from reputable sources." Specifically which of these 'several films' Schooley has appeared in are considered notable from reputable sources? I should note that FernTV is not a credible source and is a blog where many of the articles do not even have a byline. In addition, the igossip.com website is a website that exclusively posts user-generated content. I see one notable film on Schooley's resume- "Small Town Murder Songs", in which she plays "News Reporter". I don't see any awards from reputable sources either. In fact the first line in Schooley's article is an un-cited claim that she has "won awards for her on-screen performances". I see some coverage for a film called "Black Eve", but that appears to still be in post-production and Schooley is not a top-billed actress. I understand that Schooley is "an up and coming actress" and she wants her fans to be able to "track her progress" as an actress- but that's what her website/twitter/facebook is for- Wikipedia is an encyclopedia for already-notable subjects. Thanks for any clarification.
Edit: additionally, the two films for which Schooley has received nearly all of her 'coverage' are "Black Eve" and "One Week In Windchocombe". Two films that are not completed, have no studio affiliation, no distributor or plans for theatrical release (or even a wide DVD release). Who knows, these films could strike it big on the festival circuit in the next couple of years, but neither film at this point is notable.
Deepsix66 (talk) 21:46, 16 October 2010 (UTC) Deepsix66
- Hey,
- One Week in Windchocombe has coverage in several sources independent of it's release.
- Black Eve has articles at joBlo.com and Fangoria, among others.
- The fact that these movies come out in the future has no impact - they both have coverage in multiple, independent sources. That is sufficient to make them notable under WP:GNG, according to my interpretation. The community may not agree, but we will see how the AfD discussion goes. -Addionne (talk) 22:02, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for the quick response. JoBlo and Fangoria are definitely legit sources. Almost every article I saw in the google link you provided for "One Week..." seems to be from indie blogs with lax submission policies in terms of the material they cover (http://www.fatally-yours.com/contact-us/) In fact, I'd go as far as saying none of them are reliable, unbiased sources. Several of the Google results are from iGossip as well (user-generated content). The fact that the films have not yet been completed is incredibly important for one reason- the films themselves may already be notable (although I don't agree), but by your definition Schooley must have "significant roles" in several notable films. Until these films are completed and released to the public, we really have no idea how significant her role is. A lot can change in the editing process and for all we know, her role may be far smaller than is being written. For an example of this, see how her role in "Two Bucks Short" was described on her page and then view the link I provided in the article, which confirms her role was only 4 seconds long. Finally, considering Schooley's television experience was in a "series" that was filmed in 2008 and never completed, there is some ambiguity in terms of whether these entirely-independent films will ever see any measure of release or completion. Without a distributor, studio, any festival acceptances, or DVD release- how on earth are these films going to be viewed by anything resembling a mass audience? How can they be notable if nobody can see them? If there was a press release announcing some sort of distribution channel, things would be different, but at this point this is no different than me announcing that I am making a film in my backyard and getting some blogs who need content to relay the information. Considering there is no established/name-talent in these films, what have these films accomplished that makes them notable? Convinced a blog to post some photos from their set? If this is all it takes to be entered into the encylopedia, I have a feeling indie filmmakers will be coming here in droves. I think I've said all I need to say, I appreciate the forum. Deepsix66 (talk) 22:20, 16 October 2010 (UTC)Deepsix66
- Addionne, I have asked on the AfD that you list the movies that you feel makes her notable - this will help all those involved in the discussion. Keeping the debate here limits its usefulness, I'm sure you'll agree! Bigger digger (talk) 13:09, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
The fiasco
Re: Your comments on my page... You and me both, hon. it's immature, ridiculous, petty, and a number of other things. i should not be a 'fiasco' until i do something 'notable' like sleeping with Brad Pitt. Problem is (as can be seen by their edit history) Frozen North is perpetuating the BS even now. Glad to see that someone removed the vandalism on my page and that someone blocked them for their vandalism. Hopefully they'll grow up soon and find other projects to dwell on.
And i appreciate you taking the time to do some research so that you could be properly educated to vote, btw. Seems like people are just chiming in with arbitrary keep or delete, for the most part, and some folks are showing clear bias one way or another.
Anyway, hope you have an awesome weekend! EmilySchooley (talk) 09:03, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
See my response on the talk page. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 15:41, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
Article Harsh Vardhan Jain, Jagmandar Dass Jain
Kindly see the Articles in Category:Indian businesspeople may be more than 80% will be deleted due to one or other reasons.
Kindly see the corrections been done in the Articles contributed Harsh Vardhan Jain, Jagmandar Dass Jain etc.
The reason is not known but after 2 mths of Article been posted in Wikipedia, May be due to Contribution by Indians in Wikipedia is not been liked by you, so best of luck.