Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brad Armstrong (Home and Away)

Brad Armstrong (Home and Away)

Fictional characters from Home and Away with no verifiable sources showing real-world notability, following the precedents set at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ric Dalby (second nomination) and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Matilda Hunter (2nd nomination). Please review the arguments made in those discussions before repeating them here. Pak21 (talk) 21:45, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This nomination includes:

Brad Armstrong (Home and Away) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Rachel Armstrong (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Dan Baker (Home and Away) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Leah Patterson-Baker (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Peter Baker (Home and Away) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Shauna Bradley (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Morag Bellingham (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Amanda Baker (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletions. —Capitalistroadster (talk) 01:18, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional characters-related deletions. —Quasirandom (talk) 23:16, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all - They lack WP:RS to satisfy WP:FICT, and are mostly just plot synopses or fancruft... please note also the following related articles that have been PRODed:

Tamsyn Armstrong (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Martin Bartlett (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Jazz Curtis (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Dr. Lewis Rigg (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I would recommend that the closing admin also check to see if they have expired yet, or should someone add them to this AfD? Happy Editing! —72.75.89.38 (talk · contribs) 07:48, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep all (that does not apply to the four above). Fictional characters are notable, and like characters for EastEnders and Coronation Street, they should be covered. Yes these articles need working on, but that is no reason for deletion. Also, deleting them, without even a redirect, is making Wikipedia a worse place (I always why editors nominate these pages, you may not like them, but they do no harm. There are many pages I don't like and think are unnecessary, but I don't go round AfD-ing them. I prefer to improve and create articles, not destroy other people's hard work, why don't you spend your time doing this?). If a page were to be created where all the characters could be on one page, with a little about each one, that would be good, but just deleting them you lose all information. Instead of deleting, we need to work on them and were necessary merge to a big article. And when I say merge I mean actually merge, not just create a redirect with merge information.--UpDown (talk) 08:09, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - It doesn't do any harm is a personal point of view, and it is not a valid argument in this forum ... these articles lack independent, reliables sources demonstrating their notability, which is not the same thing as popularity ... and it is the author's responsibility to find these references, not Some Other Editor's ... also, List of Home and Away characters already exists, as do List of current Home and Away characters, and Recurring characters of Home and Away ... note that some of the characters in this AfD are no longer current characters, and some have yet to appear (which violates WP:CRYSTAL) ... notability is not inherited, nor does every character on a notable soap opera deserve an article of their own. —72.75.89.38 (talk) 08:34, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete All per the IP above. These articles do not appear to have any secondary sources to verify them or indicate notability. Lankiveil (talk) 09:31, 7 December 2007 (UTC).[reply]
Redirect all to either a List of Home and Away characters or to the main Home and Away article (especially, those characters where(home and away) isn't part of the article name).Ga rr ie —Preceding comment was added at 12:27, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all no real world sources showing notability outside of the soap. RMHED (talk) 14:12, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all - not notable and no real world sources.--Grahame (talk) 23:44, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - The Matilda Hunter article is being deletion reviewed. Auroranorth (!) 01:37, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - Someone should do a G12 speedy deletion of Rachel Armstrong as a WP:COPYVIO of this page ... this one is a no-brainer, and who knows how many others were cloned from these character bios, like the Matilda Hunter article turns out to have been (I don't have time to check all of them right now). —72.75.89.38 (talk) 17:13, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - OK, Dan Baker (Home and Away) is also a copyvio from here, and that looks like the only other one in this list for deletion, but there are undoubtedly others out there. <Sigh!> —72.75.89.38 (talk) 21:06, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]