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The contentious topic restriction was imposed (or last renewed) more than a year ago and:
- the restriction was imposed by a single administrator, or
- the restriction was an indefinite block.

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a clear consensus of uninvolved administrators at AE,
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Uninvolved administrators at the arbitration enforcement noticeboard ("AE") and uninvolved editors at the administrators' noticeboard ("AN") should revoke or modify a contentious topic restriction on appeal if:

the action was inconsistent with the contentious topics procedure or applicable policy (i.e. the action was out of process),
the action was not reasonably necessary to prevent damage or disruption when first imposed, or
the action is no longer reasonably necessary to prevent damage or disruption.

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the action was inconsistent with the contentious topics procedure or applicable policy (i.e. the action was out of process),
the action represents an unreasonable exercise of administrative enforcement discretion, or
compelling circumstances warrant the full Committee's action.

^ The administrator may indicate consent at any time before, during, or after imposition of the restriction.
^ This criterion does not apply if the original action was imposed as a result of rough consensus at the arbitration enforcement noticeboard, as there would be no single enforcing administrator.

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Modifications by administrators

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the explicit prior affirmative consent of the enforcing administrator; or
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Administrators modifying sanctions out of process may at the discretion of the committee be desysopped.

Nothing in this section prevents an administrator from replacing an existing sanction issued by another administrator with a new sanction if fresh misconduct has taken place after the existing sanction was applied.

Administrators are free to modify sanctions placed by former administrators – that is, editors who do not have the administrator permission enabled (due to a temporary or permanent relinquishment or desysop) – without regard to the requirements of this section. If an administrator modifies a sanction placed by a former administrator, the administrator who made the modification becomes the "enforcing administrator". If a former administrator regains the tools, the provisions of this section again apply to their unmodified enforcement actions.

Important notes:

For a request to succeed, either

(i) the clear and substantial consensus of (a) uninvolved administrators at AE or (b) uninvolved editors at AN or

(ii) a passing motion of arbitrators at ARCA

is required. If consensus at AE or AN is unclear, the status quo prevails.

While asking the enforcing administrator and seeking reviews at AN or AE are not mandatory prior to seeking a decision from the committee, once the committee has reviewed a request, further substantive review at any forum is barred. The sole exception is editors under an active sanction who may still request an easing or removal of the sanction on the grounds that said sanction is no longer needed, but such requests may only be made once every six months, or whatever longer period the committee may specify.
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Sciologos

Attention: This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below.

Request concerning Sciologos

User requesting enforcement: -- Cirt (talk) 00:39, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

User against whom enforcement is requested: Sciologos (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Sanction or remedy that this user violated: Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/COFS#Article_probation

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

19:17, 11 May 2010 -- Failure to WP:AGF, refusal to communicate with editor in good standing, at Talk:Xenu.
08:09, 11 May 2010 -- Lack of WP:CIVIL, violations of WP:NPA, comments directed at two specific editors as "half-Nazis".
17:58, 10 May 2010 -- Repeated failure to focus on content, instead directing comments at individual contributors.
17:34, 10 May 2010 -- Violation of Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Scientology#Editors_instructed, editing through multiple different IPs and non-conventional ISPs, proxy configuration, open ports, etc. More info of other IPs listed at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sciologos.
20:36, 9 May 2010 -- Use of talkpage as WP:NOTFORUM, to propose violation of site policy, in order to add "advanced speculation" (user's own words, repeatedly posted to talk page despite being informed of site policies regarding WP:NOR.)
20:33, 9 May 2010 -- Repeated disruption and waste of talk page, in order to propose to violate WP:RS.

Diffs of notifications or of prior warnings against the conduct objected to (if required)

18:03, 10 May 2010 -- Notice of prior ArbCom cases, WP:COFS and WP:ARBSCI, by Cirt (talk · contribs)

Enforcement action requested (block, topic ban or other sanction): Request topic ban from subject matter, Scientology and related articles - per violation of multiple policies in edits to area of ongoing Article Probation. -- Cirt (talk) 00:39, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

Admin discretion may apply topic ban due to disruption at area under Article Probation from ArbCom per, Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/COFS#Article_probation. However, of course, remedies from WP:ARBSCI could also apply here, especially with regard to the WP:SPA nature involved. Thank you for your time, -- Cirt (talk) 00:39, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

00:41, 12 May 2010. -- Cirt (talk) 00:42, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion concerning Sciologos

Statement by Sciologos

Comments by others about the request concerning Sciologos

Result concerning Sciologos

This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the section above.

The COFS article probation doesn't appear to apply in this instance as the user's only contributions are to talk pages and an SPI. WP:ARBSCI remedies 4 and 5.1 could be applicable, particularly the latter. I will wait a reasonable time to hear Sciologos's response before taking action against them; the action would be likely to constitute a topic ban from the Scientology area. Stifle (talk) 10:44, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The reasonable time will end when I log on tomorrow morning (which is likely to be between 09:00 and 11:00 UTC), so Scilogos is advised to place any statement they wishes to make in the prescribed location above today. Failure to do so may result in adverse consequences being drawn. Stifle (talk) 07:22, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Whereas:
- WP:ARBSCI remedy 5.1 vests in uninvolved administrators the power to topic-ban users who is focused primarily on Scientology or Scientologists and clearly engaged in promoting an identifiable agenda, and
- User:Sciologos has edited only Talk:Xenu and an SPI case, and has the agenda of having "scientific support for the OT III story" written up on Wikipedia,
Now, therefore,
- User:Sciologos is topic-banned from Xenu and related pages for three months
- Violation of this topic ban will result in a block of up to one month for a first infraction (up to one year thereafter) and the topic-ban being reset, as well as the possibility of further sanctions.
Sciologos will be informed of this on his talk page. Stifle (talk) 09:23, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nipsonanomhmata

Nipsonanomhmata (talk · contribs) topic-banned from Ali Pasha for one year and made subject to a 1R/week restriction with respect to the Balkans for three months.

The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

Request concerning Nipsonanomhmata

User requesting enforcement: Fut.Perf. ☼ 10:59, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

User against whom enforcement is requested: Nipsonanomhmata (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Sanction or remedy that this user violated: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia#Discretionary sanctions (rv-warring; tendentious editing)

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

[1], [2], [3], [4]: sterile rv-warring over several days, currently at 3R (together with [5]), in order to include a blatantly POV qualifier on an ethnically contentious historical figure
[6], [7], [8]: earlier rv-warring over the same issue on a different article; led to full protection of the article
[9]: refusal to engage in meaningful discussion on the earlier occasion
[10], [11], [12] Earlier rv-warring to include a passage of plagiarised text; led to full protection of article
[13] Blocked for extensive rv-warring and a protracted campaign of tendentious OR editing on a different issue (the Zappas Olympics and related articles)

Diffs of notifications or of prior warnings against the conduct objected to (if required)

[14] 3RR Warning by Fut.Perf.
[15] Arbmac warning by Future Perfect at Sunrise (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)

Enforcement action requested (block, topic ban or other sanction): Strict revert limitation (at a minimum at the same level recently imposed on a group of Albanian and Greek users by Stifle); possibly topic ban.

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested: [16]

Discussion concerning Nipsonanomhmata

Statement by Nipsonanomhmata

Fut Perf has accused me of doing what she has been doing. I have always debated these issues but she does not listen. Ali Pasha was no ordinary ruler. He was a despot of ill-repute who had a harem of boys (who were not volunteers) as well as women (who were not volunteers). Ali Pasha was a pederast, paedophile, rapist, and murderer who subdued the population where he was the despot. But any insinuation that he was anything less than a noble ruler is stomped upon by Fut Perf. And despite my providing numerous scholarly references (in the case of Ali Pasha every single reference has been deleted but more than that. Every single spelling correction on Ali Pasha was deleted until I pointed out that she was rv'ing every single spelling correction I had ever made).

In summary. I have never refused a meaningful discussion. I am just stomped on by Fut Perf. Nipsonanomhmata (talk) 11:27, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Response to [87], [88], [89], [90]. The scholarly reference that I have contributed has been deleted time and time again. Every single time I have reintroduced the reference I have given a perfectly reasonable response in the reintroduction of the reference. Moreover, 3R does not apply. There have not been 3 reversals in a 24 hour period. Nor have I been spitefully edit warring. Nipsonanomhmata (talk) 11:47, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Response to [91]. What has [91] got to do with anything? I have contributed a useful reference and it has been reverted by somebody else. Nipsonanomhmata (talk) 11:43, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Response to [92], [93], [94]. The exact same scholarly reference is denied for no reasonable reason. A scholar refers to Ali Pasha as a "despot" throughout his book. He is not the only one that does so but he happens to be a global authority on the military history of that part of the world. Moreover, the article on "Ali Pasha" includes the word despot in describing Ali Pasha but without a reference. My reference was deleted repeatedly. Why? Nipsonanomhmata (talk) 13:01, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Response to [95]. I have not refused meaningful discussion. Where does it say that? The definition of the word "despot" in any dictionary is clear. Ali Pasha was a "despot". His Wikipedia article about him uses the word "despot" without a reference. I provided a reference. What exactly would you like to discuss? Would you like to discuss the right to call him a "despot" with or without a reference? Surely, having a scholarly reference is better than not having one. Nipsonanomhmata (talk) 11:44, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Response to [96], [97], [98]. She has tarred me with the brush of plagiarism when I have spent hours introducing facts with scholarly references and bending over backwards trying to change the wording to avoid plagiarism and copy violations. With the added pressure of having had those references deleted time and time again and having to reintroduce them time and time again. Is this how editors are supposed to co-operate? If this is how we are supposed to do it then I can behave in the same fashion if you would like me to. If you don't like a reference then give me a good reason why and we can debate it. Nipsonanomhmata (talk) 12:00, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Response to [99]. No, not extensive re-warring. Just rv'ing on Ali Pasha. Fut Perf pushed me in to the 3R trap. My first violation. I didn't know what 3R was at the time. She led me on and made sure that I fell in to it. Nipsonanomhmata (talk) 12:00, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Response to [100], [101]. Why do I have to make myself ill explaining the same thing over and over again. I'll explain it one more time so that you all understand. A man with Bavarian parents is born in Greece and is considered to be a Greek and not a Bavarian (note, not an ethnic Greek, but a Greek national, a Bavarian-Greek with a Greek passport). But a man with Ottoman parents and grandparents who is born in the Ottoman Empire who is an Ottoman national and an ethnic Ottoman is touted as being Greek because his great-grandparents were Greek. You can't have it both ways. If the Bavarian-Greek is a Greek then the Greek-Ottoman, who has an Ottoman passport and no Greek passport, must be an Ottoman. If you consider the Ottoman to be a Greek then the Bavarian-Greek is a Bavarian. But why waste my breath. My contributions are not appreciated. At the time Fut Perf accused me of being a racist. Although I don't understand what racism has got to do with it since I had gone out of my way to explain why a series of events was not ethnically exclusive. The exact opposite of what I was being accused of. Nipsonanomhmata (talk) 16:19, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Moreover, Fut Perf has demonstrated WP:Battleground behavior whilst stalking me from article to article on subjects having shown no prior interest. Fut Perf has pursued me in sports-related subjects that Fut Perf has never shown interest in before taking an interest in me. See The Olympic Games sponsored by Zappas. This is where she has accused me of being a racist. Now tell me honestly. Is there any evidence whatsoever that I am a racist? I would like to know. Nipsonanomhmata (talk) 16:02, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fut Perf has demonstrated similar behaviour at Greek War of Independence where I have been accused of plagiarism. Now that would be a neat trick since I was concurrently translating and summarising from the Greek language straight on to the Talk Page and third parties took my summary translation and reworked the wording before placing it in to the article text. Fut Perf has demonstrated a creative imagination. Nipsonanomhmata (talk) 16:02, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I can live with that Sandstein. I had no intention of ever editing Ali Pasha ever again since all contributions are nuked by Fut Perf. Nipsonanomhmata (talk) 20:28, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by others about the request concerning Nipsonanomhmata

With respect to the "despot" issue, although this is not the place to discuss content, I agree with the complainant that defining a ruler as a "despot" in the lead sentence without further qualification and without good editorial reason (such as in the course of a discussion of his governing style, as indeed happens at Ali Pasha#Ali Pasha as ruler) violates WP:NPOV#Impartial tone (see, in particular, WP:LABEL). This applies even if one source is provided who happens to call that ruler a despot (notably, it's a offline source and no quote is provided for context) and even if we happen to agree that the ruler was indeed a despot and generally a really unpleasant person in terms of our modern sensibilities (which would probably apply to many if not most autocrats of that time and region). However, this matter is rather close to being mainly a content dispute, rather than a (sanctionable) conduct issue, and so it is not determinative for the sanction I am proposing below. Sandstein 16:54, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think this is a long-due report from FPaS and I thank him for going through the diffs. I don't like at all the aggressive response that Nipsonanomhmata is giving. I would add that he was incivil with me at the talk page of Evangelis Zappas by calling me desperate. I'll quote him: But are you so desperate you need to recruit a Greek patriot and hero in to your cause. here, which ended my contributions in Zappa. Good report. --_Sulmues^{Let's talk} 15:56, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Result concerning Nipsonanomhmata

The request has merit. Edit warring is disruptive even when the three revert rule is not violated, see WP:EW. Nipsonanomhmata's reply is unduly aggressive and reinforces my impression that their mode of contributing to Wikipedia is problematic. Absent admin objection, I intend to impose a revert restriction and a topic ban from Ali Pasha. Sandstein 16:50, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There being no objections, under the authority of Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia#Discretionary sanctions, Nipsonanomhmata is topic-banned from one year from anything to do with Ali Pasha. For three months, he is also restricted to a maximum of one revert per page per rolling seven-day-period with respect to all content related to the Balkans. Sandstein 16:31, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Arbitration enforcement action appeal by Nipsonanomhmata

Procedural notes: The rules governing arbitration enforcement appeals are found in this 2010 ArbCom motion. According to that motion, a "clear, substantial, and active consensus of uninvolved editors" is required to overturn an arbitration enforcement action.

To help determine any such consensus, involved editors may make brief statements in separate sections but should not edit the section for discussion among uninvolved editors. Editors are normally considered involved if they are in a current dispute with the sanctioning or sanctioned editor, or have taken part in disputes (if any) related to the contested enforcement action. Administrators having taken administrative actions are not normally considered involved for this reason alone (see WP:UNINVOLVED).

Appealing user: Nipsonanomhmata (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) – Nipsonanomhmata (talk) 19:09, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sanction being appealed: <http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Nipsonanomhmata>

Administrator imposing the sanction: Sandstein (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)

Notification of that administrator: I have been notified. Sandstein 21:39, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Nipsonanomhmata

The severity of the penalty is over zealous. I have been given a one year restriction on editing articles in a region called the Balkans (that's several countries) for an alleged 3RR (for 3 reverts well outside a 24 hour period) and I have hardly edited in the Balkans over the last 3 months. I have also been accused of being "aggressive". Where exactly have I been aggressive? Nipsonanomhmata (talk) 00:44, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sandstein is right. It's 3 months instead of a year. But why have restrictions been placed for several countries for 3 months for one half baked 3RR? 3 months is still a severe penalty. Moreover, I have been banned for 1 year from a page that I was not editing on when this dispute was raised. Personally, I don't mind the ban on the Ali Pasha article because I had no intention of ever going back to that article again because everything that I had ever contributed to that article has been indiscriminately napalmed and nuked by Fut Perf. It's still not fair to put a blanket restriction on me for the Balkans though. Not even for 1 day. How did that happen? Nipsonanomhmata (talk) 00:44, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Stifle, it should be the other way around. Innocent before proven guilty. Not guilty before being proven innocent. This isn't Guantanamo. I am being penalised for Fut Perf's badger baiting. Nipsonanomhmata (talk) 14:17, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Sandstein

Nipsonanomhmata is mistaken: his 1R/week restriction lasts three months, not a year. Only his topic ban from the subject Ali Pasha lasts a year. See the sanction in the section above. I recommend that this appeal be declined and refer to my rationale for the sanction under appeal. Sandstein 21:39, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by (involved editor 1)

Statement by (involved editor 2)

Discussion among uninvolved editors about the appeal by Nipsonanomhmata

While I am mindful of an echo chamber effect among the few admins who frequent here, I don't think the sanctions issued by Sandstein were unduly onerous. My suggestion would be to appeal them again in a month or so having demonstrated good behaviour in the meantime. Stifle (talk) 13:50, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Result of the appeal by <Nipsonanomhmata>

This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.

Arbitration enforcement action appeal by Aregakn

Procedural notes: The rules governing arbitration enforcement appeals are found in this 2010 ArbCom motion. According to that motion, a "clear, substantial, and active consensus of uninvolved editors" is required to overturn an arbitration enforcement action.

To help determine any such consensus, involved editors may make brief statements in separate sections but should not edit the section for discussion among uninvolved editors. Editors are normally considered involved if they are in a current dispute with the sanctioning or sanctioned editor, or have taken part in disputes (if any) related to the contested enforcement action. Administrators having taken administrative actions are not normally considered involved for this reason alone (see WP:UNINVOLVED).

Appealing user: Aregakn (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) – Aregakn (talk) 23:41, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sanction being appealed: Ban on referals to any editors' edits as "Possible Vandalism", "Vandalism" etc. (if not 3RR violation or other obvious cases); imposed at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Hittit; Log: Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan_2#Amended_Remedies_and_Enforcement

Administrator imposing the sanction: Stifle (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)

Notification of that administrator

Administrator notified: User talk:Stifle#Please be notified of an AE Appeal Aregakn (talk) 23:54, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Aregakn

The appeal is for the sanction lift. Introduction:

In the AE for the editor Hittit, that was failing to comply with Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan_2 according to the request, I found valuable to present references to additional multiple violations. This decision was based on the will to be constructively contributing to articles of Wikipedia, rather than uselessly spending time to prevent violations of rules and/or the integrity of articles and so Wikipedia as a whole. In the last (#7) of the violations I thought relevant to the case, I wanted to bring to the attention of the ruling administrator, that a deletion of a cover-page of the NewYork Times paper , stating "Million Armenians Killed or in Exile" and other similar, was deleted in only one [17] of the multiple identical edits [18], [19], [20], [21] of the heavily biased editor. Bringing it to the attention for the authorised person's consideration, as a reason for it I mentioned a "Possible vandalism", meaning a possibility of Sneaky Vandalism. The latter was clarified in the appeal to the sanction on my talk-page. Unfortunately the appeal for lift was denied and only reduced to 1 month from 1 year.

The reasons for the appeal:

Considering my will to preserve valuable time of mine and other editors to engage in value-adding activities to Wikipedia, rather than "warring" in one way or another, to preserve Wiki-integrity, with editors that are here most possibly for other purposes, I was, in good faith, bringing the very many evidences on how our work is disrupted on Wikipedia. I cannot consider any rational reason (or recall an existing rule) to sanction somebody for trying to bring violations into consideration, with quite a possible reasoning of why (s)he does it. I consider the sanction as irrelevant, lacking rational bases (and personally disappointing for a constructive editor). Aregakn (talk) 23:41, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The link to the AE was given in the "Sanction being appealed" section: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Hittit, until it was removed/archived by MiszaBot II after that. Now it is in Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive62#Hittit.

1) Though the purpose of why Stifle considered this sanction is clear to me, as I have stated, I see no bases and reasons for why it would be issuing (to put it very roughly "corpus delicti").

2) Once again, there was no direct accusation of the editor! The AE was about the conduct of the editor and there were very many cases that showed his conduct is disruptive for the work of Wikipedia. That was the place where those edits should have been considered, wasn't it? So this is where I brought to the attention one of many I suspected in Sneaky vandalism. That very edit (deletion of content in a sneaky way) could not have been made neither in accordance with Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan_2 restrictions nor in good faith or in any way appropriate for the article The Armenian Genocide. In addition, if anybody thinks that somebody would make Sneaky Vandalism by blanking whole pages or paragraphs, I do not. Neither this edit could anyhow be viewed as quote: "...an effort to improve the encyclopedia, even if misguided or ill-considered, is not vandalism". Deleting a factual newspaper page just to hide the title of it is in no way a desire to improve the encyclopedia, is it?

3) With the above in mind, I don't consider that bringing this very case to the attention of the admin for his/her consideration, with no direct accusation, as "throwing about the word "vandalism"" as Stifle calls it.

4) I would not justify in either way A sanction against an editor that are based or referred to as "I rather doubt that this small sanction will have any serious impact on Aregakn's editing of the encyclopedia." This isn't the way Admins are intitled to act, as I know.

5)If I have to comment the below "This appeal is ridiculous..... That isn't even a restriction." I want to be asked so by an uninvolved admin once again. Aregakn (talk) 14:18, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I can see, that Sandstein has made a vote for a decline with reasoning, that shows he has not familirised himself with the case. For isntance: [22]. I could mention others but think this is enough. An appaling action from an Administrator, when considering cases, I think. I hope that other rulings/votes/comments of his have not been made in this manner! Aregakn (talk) 23:02, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Stifle

One of the main issues related to this arbitration enforcement request was users throwing about the word "vandalism" to refer to edits with which they disagreed, rather than genuine damage to the encyclopedia. I rather doubt that this small sanction will have any serious impact on Aregakn's editing of the encyclopedia. Nevertheless, if there is a consensus that even the greatly reduced sanction I imposed after the appeal was excessive, then let it be lifted. Stifle (talk) 07:18, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

To Sandstein: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive62#Hittit. Stifle (talk) 13:39, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Point of information: Aregakn is not subject to edit summary parole; that's Hittit. Stifle (talk) 20:19, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by (involved editor 1)

Statement by (involved editor 2)

Discussion among uninvolved editors about the appeal by Aregakn

Although I have edited on the "Armenian Genocide" in the past I have not been involved in this particular issue. I just wanted to say that Aregakn has done a lot of good work on Armenian issues in an impossible environment where he is outnumbered by people with extreme right-wing opinions. I just wanted to say that he deserves that you go easy on him. He is doing a great job in an impossible environment. Nipsonanomhmata (talk) 01:15, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Aregakn, please link to the request or discussion that led to your sanction, or we cannot review your appeal. Sandstein 07:51, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This appeal is ridiculous. So, he has been told not to refer to other people's edits as "vandalism" when they aren't? That isn't even a restriction. Nobody is allowed to refer to other people's edits as vandalism when they aren't. This sanction is merely a reminder of a behavioral norm that goes for everybody; it doesn't restrict his editing in any way. Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:00, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Offtopic personal attacks by Nipsonanomhmata (talk · contribs) and ensuing discussion removed. Continued attacks of this sort will be sanctioned as disruption. Sandstein 15:52, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It was neither offtopic nor a personal attack. I feel like I am communicating with aliens. Nipsonanomhmata (talk) 20:43, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Decline appeal. The appealed sanctions are a reasonable exercise of administrator discretion. The edit summary parole forbidding Aregakn from using misleading edit summaries is justified by the evidence given in the decision, and the editing restriction forbidding Aregakn from referring to non-vandalism edits by others as "vandalism" is within the scope of the normal rules of etiquette that every user must follow anyway. Sandstein 15:49, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Result of the appeal by Aregakn