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CC-BY-SA declaration; text in this section has been coped from the Requests page here by me. See that page's history for full attribution. Baffle☿gab 19:18, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Golconda diamonds is a former GA, and a GOCE was completed, but unfortunately it was partly done. I intend to nominate the article for FA (FAC). Thus needed a thorough copy editing. :)-Omer123hussain (talk) 19:27, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Omer123hussain:, this article still has {{Disputed}} at the top, as it did in December '22 when I processed your previous c/e request (which was not "partly done" btw; see my edit summary here). Factual inaccuracies should be dealt with before an FA nomination; don't expect the GOCE to fix them up. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 20:59, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Baffle gab1978: thanks for fixing those issues during GOCE,by "partly" I mean that during the GOCE review I could not answer to the issues.
  • Recently I had cleaned, cited and added text to make the article more clear and support the factuality.
  • My expectation from GOCE team is that, you point out the issues i will resolve those. because as an editor it is hard to find issues in our own work, so i came here to ask for the support from GOCE to point out the issues only.
Omer123hussain (talk) 22:44, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going to reply to you on the REQ talk page; please feel free to discuss there. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 19:12, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Omer123hussain: I apologise for my tone above. Copy-editors are unlikely to check what you write is true and accurate; we just help out by fixing spelling, grammar, sentence order and flow—we probably wouldn't know if there are falsehoods in the article. Fact-checking is the onus of the editor who adds or restores the text, not the copy-editor. I notice you struggle with English; you may find there's a Wikipedia in your native language where you can write more fluently. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 20:37, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

() The requester has now been blocked from the mainspace due to their persistent misuse of citations; see here. Baffle☿gab 06:46, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi all; I've put the request for the above article on a fictional work on hold. The requester asks us to standardize divergent spellings of character names to a single version. This is content work, and I think conducting research to fix this issue isn't within the copy-editor's purview. I also note the article lacks references (only one is present); and I've removed the copy-edit template (converted to {{notice}} and tagged the article as {{fancruft}}. Pinging requester @YukaSylvie: for comment. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 20:16, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I missed this one, and suggest we decline. All the best, Miniapolis 20:04, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks; I'd forgotten about this one too. Declined per above. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 00:35, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Vincenzo Zitello on hold

I've put the c/e request for Vincenzo Zitello on hold and suggest we decline for now. The article is an unreferenced BLP about a notable Italian musician (see the authority control panel there). It should probably be reduced to a stub. I've templated it as a UBLP and for other woes (there's a COI involved). Courtesy-pinging the requester @4meter4:. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 19:36, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Agree; sorry I missed this earlier. Since it's been a while, I'll tag it. All the best, Miniapolis 23:48, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Double Spacing

I am asking everybody else here to look for double spacing in the articles that you edit on. It’s a very difficult to notice issue, but many articles have them. I’ve gone through probably hundreds of articles today just removing double spacing. I’m typing this so other people will at least check to see. Roasted (talk) 18:09, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Roastedbeanz1:, if you mean a double space following the end of a sentence, this is a permitted style that doesn't affect the way text is displayed. There is no urgent need to remove double spaces from articles and some editors frown upon purely cosmetic edits; please see WP:COSMETIC and WP:COSMETICBOT. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 22:22, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Whitespace in the wikicode can sometimes make it easier to read in the editor (particularly with templates) and doesn't affect the rendered version of the page. – Reidgreg (talk) 05:57, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi all; i've just placed the c/e request for the above article here (permalink) on hold because the requesting editor, whose account in now named Nemoralis, has been checkuser-blocked as a sockpuppet account of Solavirum, who is topic-banned from this subject area Azerbaijan. i was about to start copy-editing and inform the requester... sorry to pick up on this so late! Cheers, Baffle☿gab 00:57, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much, Baffle. Under the circumstances, I suggest we decline. All the best, Miniapolis 17:37, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No problems; I've declined the request and done some tidying / cleanup on the article. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 02:26, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

CC-BY-SA declaration: I've copied text in this section from the Requests page here; see that page's history for full attribution. Baffle☿gab 06:16, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Looking to nominate for FA (FAC). voorts (talk/contributions) 18:31, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Voorts: I've gone over the first part of this well-written article. I hope you're happy with my edits - mostly minor tweaks. A couple of things that go beyond just copy-editing, re Composition and themes. I've checked the references and couldn't find any mentions of losing friends as one of the themes. Can you please provide a reference? Also, in the last para in this section, I don't think Consequence / M. Siroky has to be cited there again (Citation 9b). Can you please take a look? TIA Leoseliv (talk)

()  Working Baffle☿gab 18:35, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Baffle☿gab 02:21, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've put the request for the above article on hold per Dhtwiki's comments at that request; there's ongoing editing so it might be good to wait a short while before copy-editing this one. I'm also concerned this subject may become a powder keg for copy-editors but I guess that can be addressed if or when it happens. Courtesy-pinging requester @RadioactiveBoulevardier: for comment. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 21:31, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate the courtesy ping.
It's an understandable decision. After all, there's not really a deadline.
In terms of the inherent controversies, can you elaborate what the potential concerns are? For instance, a fair percentage of my minor and CE edits are to articles that are quite controversial outside the Anglosphere, such as India/Pakistan and Russia/Ukraine. I think it’s important that WP’s coverage of controversial articles be as readable and professional-looking as possible. If an editor abuses a semicolon, what they wrote might lose an iota of credibility with readers. (This is a fascinating topic as by writing professional-grade content the shift from "wiki" to "pedia" makes use of the authoritativeness professionally written content often has in the mind of the average person, but I digress…)
Dhtwiki pointed out that I haven't yet made any substantive edits. This is largely because I avoid the topic area. I’m currently home sick so I could definitely find a block of time to do a full pass for basic stuff like punctuation later in the day. RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 21:53, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your reply. I can understand your reasons for not engaging with the article. The on hold notice is merely advisory and doesn't prevent anyone from taking the request is they wish to. My concern is, due to the subject matter, copy-editors could become embroiled in edit wars, revert wars or other dramah, making it at best a waste of their time and effort. I'm not saying all editing has to stop before a c/e can take place but the article should be stable, otherwise a copy-edit can be quickly wiped out. I agree an article of this importance should be as clear, concise and readable as possible. I'm not unduly concerned about your lack of edits there (we only usually decline requests from anon editors who haven't edited the requested article), though it's always nice to see requesters taking articles forward to GAN, FAC etc. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 00:59, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@RadioactiveBoulevardier:, I've struck my hold notice on this request; as of my timestamp, there have been no edits there since 25 November. Please let us know if more problematic editing occurs before or during a c/e. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 03:03, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

An IP editor has pointed out there has been recent edit-warring and an ongoing dispute over the existence of this article. I suggest we give it a couple of weeks to settle down and for the dispute to be resolved. Courtesy-pinging the requester @WeatherWriter: for comment once their block expires. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 20:18, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Baffle gab1978: I am ok with the hold. The edit war over article existence was solved with a third-opinion request and both myself and the other editor ended the dispute. I would still like to have a copy/edit for a future BCR or GAN, but if you would prefer to have me re-request it in a few weeks, I could also do that. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 00:20, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi WeatherWriter, thanks for your reply. There's no need to re-request (unless you want to), my concern is that an edit war, reverting or ongoing article development may lead to edit conflicts with a copy-editor and possibly negate the c/e. I'll check the article's history later this week and see where we are. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 01:34, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@WeatherWriter:, I've struck my hold notice on this request; as of my timestamp, there have been no edits there since 25 November. Please let us know if more problematic editing occurs before a c/e. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 03:00, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

CC-BY-SA declaration; this section was copied from the Requests page here by me; see that page's history for full attribution. Baffle☿gab 06:43, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Lots of improper format spelling and grammar throughout the article. SKAG123 (talk) 03:11, 23 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

SKAG123, —e: will do later, pausing for now— Remsense 01:21, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Remsense:, do you still intend to copy-edit this article? Cheers, Baffle☿gab 07:09, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Baffle gab1978, oh, I am so sorry! At the beginning of the month I had meant to get back to it, but the article went through a bit of a contentious period/small edit war during the time, so I decided to wait, and then I completely forgot. I hope it's not a problem if I accidentally sat on this article all month. I can formally relinquish it now, if that's alright? Remsense 11:08, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your reply; no problem, these things happen. Thanks for your work there. The article seems to have settled down now, so the request can be taken by another editor, though maybe check the history in case the EW kicks off again. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 18:43, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

()  Working; guess I'll take this one, then. Baffle☿gab 03:34, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Baffle☿gab 06:38, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

CC-BY-SA declaration; this section was copied from the Requests page here by me; see that page's history for full attribution. Baffle☿gab 07:41, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nom on hold. The article is well structured with citations wherever necessary along with images. Just not good because of grammatical errors and phrase errors. I'm not good with copyedit. Going to nominate for GA/FA (GAN / FAC). Drat8sub (talk) 17:43, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Drat8sub:,  Working I will give it a shot.Leoneix (talk) 03:58, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It might take longer than I had previously anticipated (pretty big and detailed article), probably 2-3 days might be 4. Leoneix (talk) 14:33, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Leoneix:, the GOCE tag has been removed by bot. Is it okay? And I want to have little conversation regarding few points which otherwise might affect the whole article. So, is your talk page a better place or the article talk page? Drat8sub (talk) 14:50, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
yep you can go to my talk page, I have been a bit busy recently. Leoneix (talk) 15:14, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
ping @Drat8sub Leoneix (talk) 15:20, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 On hold per discussion above and in my talk page Leoneix (talk) 17:06, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Working per this. Miniapolis 17:55, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, for taking up the task. Drat8sub (talk) 07:09, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

()  Done Miniapolis 21:19, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

CC-BY-SA declaration; this section was copied from the Requests page here by me; see that page's history for full attribution. Baffle☿gab 08:19, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about a set of paintings and subsequent variations/derivations by Andy Warhol. This is a seminal piece of art. It is one of 17 paintings listed at vital articles level 4 and one of 10 contemporary art paintings listed at vital articles level 5. This was listed at WP:FA from March 26, 2007 to March 7, 2021. It is now a WP:FFA. It just failed at WP:FAC and I was encouraged to nominate it for WP:PR and WP:GOCE. I was the original page creator and GA and FA nominator. I finally have the time and motivation to restore its FA (FAC). I have vigorously expanded the content. I have an outstanding request at WP:MCQ after which I hope to submit this at WP:PR. Recent discussions that are relevant are the Wikipedia:Featured article review/Campbell's Soup Cans/archive1 from March 25, 2021 and Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Campbell's Soup Cans/archive2 from today. TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:08, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note the WP:MCQ issues are resolved.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:01, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Archiving bot

Hi coords, it looks like there's a problem with the archiving bot YiFeiBot, which hasn't archived completed requests since 10 January. I'm not sure what's causing this so I've been tidying up unusual bits of code like asterisk bullets, poor threading, etc but that doesn't seem to have worked. I've also gone through the 2023 archive page to check there, fixed an unusual 'and' but didn't find any other oddities. Perhaps the bot needs a holiday... I'll see what happens next before I bother the bot-runner. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 01:59, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've just removed another two asterisks. Life is fun. :) Baffle☿gab 02:06, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for noticing, Baffle, and Zhuyifei1999 hasn't edited on enwp since October 2021. It was nice while it lasted </sigh>. All the best, Miniapolis 15:16, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And the designated contact @Bobbychan193: (courtesy ping) hasn't edited here since October 2023. There's nothing on the bot's talk to indicate it's been deactivated though... let's see if it archives my latest one. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 03:46, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'll try to get Zhuyifei1999 to take a look. Bobbychan193 (talk) 04:37, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed. Root cause was an automatic pywikibot upgrade pulled in phab:T340640 fix, which added https://pypi.org/project/packaging/ as a mandatory dependency of pywikibot, but I did not have that installed. Anyways, feel free to shoot me an email if I don't see your ping. I rarely log on nowadays. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:49, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]