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' == BLP Issues == As a very late reply, I just stumbled upon [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Daniel_Kolenda&diff=prev&oldid=1220786514] and wanted to make sure that you are aware of [[WP:BLPPRIMARY]] when the block expires. You do not need to reply to this message; it is purely for your information and may be unnecessary by now. [[User:ToBeFree|&#126; ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 23:30, 29 May 2024 (UTC) ::I was not aware, thank you for bringing that to my attention@[[User:ToBeFree|ToBeFree]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 23:32, 29 May 2024 (UTC) :::No worries, thanks! [[User:ToBeFree|&#126; ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 23:35, 29 May 2024 (UTC) ::::Your welcome. Just wondering, other than the obvious (what I've been doing, trying to read the policies and not make mistakes), what should I do to not get blocked again in a week@[[User:ToBeFree|ToBeFree]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 23:50, 29 May 2024 (UTC) :::::I honestly don't know. I mean, the most obvious way would be not editing => not getting blocked. But the best way to leave the old troubles behind while continuing to edit would perhaps be doing something entirely else than before – for example, not patrolling recent changes. Something else from the [[WP:Task Center|Task Center]] or the [[WP:Community portal|community portal]] than before. But that's far, far easier said than done. Why would anyone continue contributing to a volunteer project if their favorite tasks are prohibited for them? That makes it hard to provide a good answer; you'll probably need to consider why you're editing Wikipedia and if the same goal can be reached by doing things radically differently than before. Alternatively, you can of course continue recent changed patrolling, but the usual "I look at an edit, check if it's bad and simply revert if it is bad" approach has failed so far and you'd at least need to invent a new... algorithm for dealing with recent changes. A new way of approaching them. For example, a big issue may very well have been a perceived urgency to revert. You've been blocked for a month and Wikipedia is still running, so the urgency isn't actually there. Perhaps the most important point to remember more often is that your contributions are those of a volunteer and entirely optional in a huge community of others who can perform the same tasks. Yes, some biographies have issues and biographical issues may actually be urgent, but there is a considerable risk of making things worse by blindly jumping into them, so perhaps don't, at least not for a while after the block. Staying away from biographical content about living people reduces the amount of possible BLP violations to almost 0, and there's enough vandalism in articles about history too. :::::I would normally not provide such detailed advice to a volunteer who can just do what they like to do, but you genuinely seem to be seeking (almost step-by-step) instructions for how to continue, and perhaps rules to adhere to, and staying away from biographies of living people may actually be part of the advice you're looking for. If not, please ignore this message. Block expired means block expired; there are no strict conditions. [[User:ToBeFree|&#126; ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 00:04, 30 May 2024 (UTC) ::::::So, I may as well be blocked if I'm not editing to not get blocked. I would like, if possible, continue doing counter-vandalism work. I will stay away from BLPs for a few months. While I know block expired means block expired, if I'm blocked immediatly thereafter for the same thing, whats the point. ::::::Another thing is that, as far I know, I've been fine on simplewiki. I have done '''anything''' different in counter-vandalism there than here. Any ideas to why I've been having such a bigger issue here? ::::::Thank you.{{ping|ToBeFree}} [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 00:26, 30 May 2024 (UTC) :::::::I don't want to be unfair towards their community including {{u|Vermont}} who I deeply trust, but I'm afraid the following explanations are the most plausible: :::::::* Article content there is less important to a topic's reputation, so there's less damage to be done and less publicity to be gained, and people (you <em>and</em> those looking at your edits, and probably even the vandals) behave with this in mind :::::::* There are not enough people competent and caring about high-quality verifiable, neutral content enough to check experienced users' work and deal with patrolling issues :::::::Things like that. [[User:ToBeFree|&#126; ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 00:42, 30 May 2024 (UTC) ==DYK nomination of Lineage (anthropology)== [[File:Symbol question.svg|25px]] Hello! Your submission of [[Lineage (anthropology)]] at the [[Template talk:DYK|Did You Know nominations page]] has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at '''[[Template:Did you know nominations/Lineage (anthropology)|your nomination's entry]]''' and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! <!--Template:DYKproblem--> --[[User:evrik|evrik]]&nbsp;<sup>([[User talk:evrik|talk]])</sup> 01:45, 16 May 2024 (UTC) :@[[User:Evrik|Evrik]] User is blocked until June 5 and will not be able to participate at DYK at this time. -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 01:52, 16 May 2024 (UTC) :*Yup. --[[User:evrik|evrik]]&nbsp;<sup>([[User talk:evrik|talk]])</sup> 01:56, 16 May 2024 (UTC) :I can however respond, here, and I will. It was in the article when it was submitted. Anyways, here is a new one:Did you know that [[Lineage (anthropology)|lineages]] often have [[religion|religious]] significance, determining ones religion and there role in that religion<ref>https://collegeofarms.euclid.int/tracing-roots-the-significance-of-family-trees-in-traditional-societies/</ref>. Also, I do not appreciate unfounded allegations by @[[User:RoySmith|RoySmith]] that I am wasting their time and a sock. Thank you. @[[User:Evrik|Evrik]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 20:49, 16 May 2024 (UTC) ::Yeah @[[User:Rjjiii|Rjjiii]], maybe https://verfassungsblog.de/the-stubborn-subversiveness-of-judaisms-matrilineal-principle/ is better [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 00:24, 17 May 2024 (UTC) *You probably want to stop trying to edit from here, MDW. [[WP:PROXYING]] does apply. Interpretation of that particular policy varies widely, and some admin will simply block on the first instance, rather than warn you. I'm choosing to simply warn you as I would rather see you be able to keep talk page access. It's a tightrope, I know, but it's already been mentioned elsewhere. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<b>2&cent;</b>]] 00:34, 18 May 2024 (UTC) *:Okay. As far as I can see, though, this falls under [[Wikipedia:IAR|IAR]]. My helping fix my DYK nomination is pretty clearly helpful and productive. Also, what policy says is that "Editors who reinstate edits made by a banned or blocked editor take complete responsibility for the content". I see no reason why the content is bad or disruptive in any way@[[User:Dennis Brown|Dennis Brown]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 09:57, 19 May 2024 (UTC) *::@[[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] The sanction imposed on you is a month-long block from contributing to this project, so that it runs more smoothly, since your participation to-date has been too much of a disruption. You should '''refrain''' from all and any attempts to participate in the project for one month, since that's the essence of a block. Directing other editors in editing Wikipedia content and tagging other editors in order to argue with them is explictly going against the spirit of the sanction. Be warned. — [[User:Kashmiri|<span style="color:#30c;font:italic bold 1em 'Candara';text-shadow:#aaf 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em;">kashmīrī</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Kashmiri|<sup style="color:#80f;font-family:'Candara';">TALK</sup>]] 10:45, 19 May 2024 (UTC) *::Looking at [[WP:BMB]] and [[WP:BE]], I think current community consensus documented in the banning and blocking policies is that evading sanctions and sockpuppetry are generally not seen as justifiable by [[WP:IAR]]. It's less clear about user talk pages and proxying, but I would still avoid trying to use "IAR" as a justification there either. Discussions about proxying are about the policy's wording and meaning, not about whether it can be ignored. [[User:ToBeFree|&#126; ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 10:45, 19 May 2024 (UTC) *:::Well, the purpose of IAR, unless I am misunderstanding, is to prevent something like this. A rule is preventing constructive contributions. Also, I am not directing anyone to do anything, I responded on this talk page, which another editor (which, while I appreciate it, I did '''not''' tell them to do) transcluded it to the DYK nomination. @[[User:ToBeFree|ToBeFree]]@[[User:Kashmiri|Kashmiri]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 11:05, 19 May 2024 (UTC) *::::{{u|Me Da Wikipedian}}, there's a bit of irony about this on a meta level: Even during a block that's meant to prevent this from happening, editor time is suddenly drawn to a discussion about proxying (even at [[Wikipedia_talk:Blocking_policy#Proxy_edits_for_blocked_user|the talk page of the blocking policy]]) because your good-faith contributions upset other editors. And even if only for that reason, perhaps you can agree to stop editing – entirely – until the block expires. [[User:ToBeFree|&#126; ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 11:16, 19 May 2024 (UTC) *:::::Okay, that is fair. Also, yeah, something is wrong with the process if good contributions wind up in disruptive conversations to enforce and rule prevent good contributions. But whatever. Assuming you're still opposed to unblocking me(:@[[User:ToBeFree|ToBeFree]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 11:25, 19 May 2024 (UTC) *::::::The problem is that different admin interpret the policy different. Some see any conversation that discusses changes to an article as a reason to take away talk page access, some are a bit more forgiving, and others (like myself) are a bit more liberal in allowing discussion regarding articles as long as it isn't direct proxy editing (telling someone to go add exact material, or verbally continuing an edit war, etc). To be honest, my warning was to head off a potential removal of TPA, as I ''personally'' didn't see any problem with doing a little clean up on a DYK because others were depending on it, but I just know that (again) others are much more strict. It would probably be helpful if there was more clarity on this, and honestly, we are probably overdue on an RFC to more clearly define what is and isn't ok on a user's talk page. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<b>2&cent;</b>]] 12:44, 19 May 2024 (UTC) *:::::::Not to actually proxy edit, but I agree we need some discussion on what that means.@[[User:Dennis Brown|Dennis Brown]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 13:41, 19 May 2024 (UTC) == Please Don't Edit My User Page == Blocked, but @[[User:Plastikspork|Plastikspork]], please don't arbitrarily remove stuff from '''my''' user page. Thank you and have a nice day. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 15:56, 26 May 2024 (UTC) == Some bubble tea for you! (yes) == {| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;" |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Bubble Tea.png|65px]] |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Finally unblocked! I really thank you for the anti-vandalism work. [[User:Rrjmrrr|Rrjmrrr]] ([[User talk:Rrjmrrr|talk]]) 15:10, 8 June 2024 (UTC) |} :Thank you.@[[User:Rrjmrrr|Rrjmrrr]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 10:13, 9 June 2024 (UTC) ==DYK nomination of Lineage (anthropology)== [[File:Symbol question.svg|25px]] Hello! Your submission of [[Lineage (anthropology)]] at the [[Template talk:DYK|Did You Know nominations page]] has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at '''[[Template:Did you know nominations/Lineage (anthropology)|your nomination's entry]]''' and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! <!--Template:DYKproblem--> [[User:Rjjiii|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;">Rjj<sup>iii</sup></span>]] ([[User talk:Rjjiii#top|talk]]) 21:41, 8 June 2024 (UTC) == Trouted == {{trout}} You have been trouted for: YOUR REASON HERE [[User:Avyanna.Owam|Avyanna.Owam]] ([[User talk:Avyanna.Owam|talk]]) 09:52, 9 June 2024 (UTC) Criticism and violent communicating skills :Please elaborate. What did I do specifically and where? And also don't mess with my user page@[[User:Avyanna.Owam|Avyanna.Owam]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 10:13, 9 June 2024 (UTC) == Update on your course == Hi there! Just letting you know that the new stage will be available shortly. I have evaluated most answers and hope you would benefit from them, as well as the relevant feedback. I will also review your contributions and see whether you reverted pages accurately or not, and give relevant advice on them. I saw that you were given a WikiLove message, and also your DYK nom failed... Keep it up! [[User:ToadetteEdit|<span style="color:#fc65b8;">'''Toadette'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:ToadetteEdit|<span style="color:blue;">Edit!</span>]]</sup> 16:32, 16 June 2024 (UTC) :On [[user talk:2A02:C7C:6C2B:D900:E0E7:6EC3:4366:2EF1|this talk page]], you warned an ip with {{tl|uw-vand4}} even though a 4 (and even 4im) level warning is already present and on the same day. RedWarn should notify you that after it detects 4 or 4im you should be advised to take the ip to [[wp:AIV]]. Twinkle also says that after detection. You should be aware of the talk page first and decide whether you should give them a warning or in case of a 4 or 4im report them to AIV. [[User:ToadetteEdit|<span style="color:#fc65b8;">'''Toadette'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:ToadetteEdit|<span style="color:blue;">Edit!</span>]]</sup> 16:45, 16 June 2024 (UTC) ::Thanks. I am pretty swamped by WikiNews but will be here in a day or two. {{ping|ToadetteEdit}} [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 19:47, 17 June 2024 (UTC) :::The next stage is available now. Find 20 instances of vandalism or other disruptive edit and recorded in the provided table there. [[User:ToadetteEdit|<span style="color:#fc65b8;">'''Toadette'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:ToadetteEdit|<span style="color:blue;">Edit!</span>]]</sup> 10:28, 19 June 2024 (UTC) ::::Thats a lot...but I guess it does give me something else to do other than spam Wikinews with new articles...@[[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 10:29, 19 June 2024 (UTC) ::::And...done but I had a hard time finding tes tedits...@[[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 11:50, 19 June 2024 (UTC) ::"RedWarn should notify you that after it detects 4 or 4im you should be advised to take the ip to wp:AIV" never seen that. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 11:50, 19 June 2024 (UTC) == Anti Vandalism Barnstar == {| style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;" |rowspan="2" style="vertical-align:middle;" | [[File:Barnstar of Reversion Hires.png|100px]] |rowspan="2" | |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;" | '''The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar''' |- |style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | This is for your valuable efforts on countering [[WP:Vandalism|Vandalism]] and protecting Wikipedia from it's threats. I appreciate your effort. You are a defender of Wikipedia. Thank you. '''[[User:Path slopu|<span style="color:Red">PA</span><span style="color:Green">TH</span>]] [[User talk:Path slopu|<span style="color:Blue">SL</span><span style="color:Maroon">OP</span><span style="color:Darkorange">U</span>]]''' 11:07, 19 June 2024 (UTC) |}<!--template:The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar--> :Thank you. Thanks for your counter-vandalism as well. @[[User:Path slopu|Path slopu]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 11:07, 19 June 2024 (UTC) == What do you mean? == What do you mean by "And I need 6 sources there and 2 sources in the other place because one for each time. If you can find one of all 6 or 2, please add it instead"? Why do you need six source for a very simple statement "Two attempts have been made to recover an Electron booster by helicopter."? A single source is sufficient. [[User:Ergzay|Ergzay]] ([[User talk:Ergzay|talk]]) 07:15, 24 June 2024 (UTC) :There are 2 statement. :Statement 1:'''2 attempts have been made to recover an Electron booster by helicopter'''. The two sources are each of the times. If you can find 1 source for both times, please do. :Statement 2:'''In addition, six attempts have been made at soft water recovery'''. The last 5 sources were needed, each verifying 1 recovery attempt. The first source actually didn't verify it. I have replaced it. :@[[User:Ergzay|Ergzay]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 10:36, 24 June 2024 (UTC) ::You don't need a source for every single attempt. You only need the most recent source as it'll say something like "this is the second time this has been attempted". [[User:Ergzay|Ergzay]] ([[User talk:Ergzay|talk]]) 17:45, 24 June 2024 (UTC) :::I actually can't see the some of the bloomberg article since its subscribers only. I also don't see the 6th source saying that either. Does Bloomberg in fact say that? I would be happy to do it in one source if we can though@[[User:Ergzay|Ergzay]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 21:12, 24 June 2024 (UTC) ::::"In a previous mission, Rocket Lab caught a booster after a return from space, but the helicopter pilot chose to drop the rocket immediately for technical reasons." [[User:Ergzay|Ergzay]] ([[User talk:Ergzay|talk]]) 01:18, 25 June 2024 (UTC) :::::Okay then. And the other claim...@[[User:Ergzay|Ergzay]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 02:04, 25 June 2024 (UTC)'
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' == BLP Issues == As a very late reply, I just stumbled upon [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Daniel_Kolenda&diff=prev&oldid=1220786514] and wanted to make sure that you are aware of [[WP:BLPPRIMARY]] when the block expires. You do not need to reply to this message; it is purely for your information and may be unnecessary by now. [[User:ToBeFree|&#126; ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 23:30, 29 May 2024 (UTC) ::I was not aware, thank you for bringing that to my attention@[[User:ToBeFree|ToBeFree]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 23:32, 29 May 2024 (UTC) :::No worries, thanks! [[User:ToBeFree|&#126; ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 23:35, 29 May 2024 (UTC) ::::Your welcome. Just wondering, other than the obvious (what I've been doing, trying to read the policies and not make mistakes), what should I do to not get blocked again in a week@[[User:ToBeFree|ToBeFree]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 23:50, 29 May 2024 (UTC) :::::I honestly don't know. I mean, the most obvious way would be not editing => not getting blocked. But the best way to leave the old troubles behind while continuing to edit would perhaps be doing something entirely else than before – for example, not patrolling recent changes. Something else from the [[WP:Task Center|Task Center]] or the [[WP:Community portal|community portal]] than before. But that's far, far easier said than done. Why would anyone continue contributing to a volunteer project if their favorite tasks are prohibited for them? That makes it hard to provide a good answer; you'll probably need to consider why you're editing Wikipedia and if the same goal can be reached by doing things radically differently than before. Alternatively, you can of course continue recent changed patrolling, but the usual "I look at an edit, check if it's bad and simply revert if it is bad" approach has failed so far and you'd at least need to invent a new... algorithm for dealing with recent changes. A new way of approaching them. For example, a big issue may very well have been a perceived urgency to revert. You've been blocked for a month and Wikipedia is still running, so the urgency isn't actually there. Perhaps the most important point to remember more often is that your contributions are those of a volunteer and entirely optional in a huge community of others who can perform the same tasks. Yes, some biographies have issues and biographical issues may actually be urgent, but there is a considerable risk of making things worse by blindly jumping into them, so perhaps don't, at least not for a while after the block. Staying away from biographical content about living people reduces the amount of possible BLP violations to almost 0, and there's enough vandalism in articles about history too. :::::I would normally not provide such detailed advice to a volunteer who can just do what they like to do, but you genuinely seem to be seeking (almost step-by-step) instructions for how to continue, and perhaps rules to adhere to, and staying away from biographies of living people may actually be part of the advice you're looking for. If not, please ignore this message. Block expired means block expired; there are no strict conditions. [[User:ToBeFree|&#126; ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 00:04, 30 May 2024 (UTC) ::::::So, I may as well be blocked if I'm not editing to not get blocked. I would like, if possible, continue doing counter-vandalism work. I will stay away from BLPs for a few months. While I know block expired means block expired, if I'm blocked immediatly thereafter for the same thing, whats the point. ::::::Another thing is that, as far I know, I've been fine on simplewiki. I have done '''anything''' different in counter-vandalism there than here. Any ideas to why I've been having such a bigger issue here? ::::::Thank you.{{ping|ToBeFree}} [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 00:26, 30 May 2024 (UTC) :::::::I don't want to be unfair towards their community including {{u|Vermont}} who I deeply trust, but I'm afraid the following explanations are the most plausible: :::::::* Article content there is less important to a topic's reputation, so there's less damage to be done and less publicity to be gained, and people (you <em>and</em> those looking at your edits, and probably even the vandals) behave with this in mind :::::::* There are not enough people competent and caring about high-quality verifiable, neutral content enough to check experienced users' work and deal with patrolling issues :::::::Things like that. [[User:ToBeFree|&#126; ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 00:42, 30 May 2024 (UTC) ==DYK nomination of Lineage (anthropology)== [[File:Symbol question.svg|25px]] Hello! Your submission of [[Lineage (anthropology)]] at the [[Template talk:DYK|Did You Know nominations page]] has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at '''[[Template:Did you know nominations/Lineage (anthropology)|your nomination's entry]]''' and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! <!--Template:DYKproblem--> --[[User:evrik|evrik]]&nbsp;<sup>([[User talk:evrik|talk]])</sup> 01:45, 16 May 2024 (UTC) :@[[User:Evrik|Evrik]] User is blocked until June 5 and will not be able to participate at DYK at this time. -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 01:52, 16 May 2024 (UTC) :*Yup. --[[User:evrik|evrik]]&nbsp;<sup>([[User talk:evrik|talk]])</sup> 01:56, 16 May 2024 (UTC) :I can however respond, here, and I will. It was in the article when it was submitted. Anyways, here is a new one:Did you know that [[Lineage (anthropology)|lineages]] often have [[religion|religious]] significance, determining ones religion and there role in that religion<ref>https://collegeofarms.euclid.int/tracing-roots-the-significance-of-family-trees-in-traditional-societies/</ref>. Also, I do not appreciate unfounded allegations by @[[User:RoySmith|RoySmith]] that I am wasting their time and a sock. Thank you. @[[User:Evrik|Evrik]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 20:49, 16 May 2024 (UTC) ::Yeah @[[User:Rjjiii|Rjjiii]], maybe https://verfassungsblog.de/the-stubborn-subversiveness-of-judaisms-matrilineal-principle/ is better [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 00:24, 17 May 2024 (UTC) *You probably want to stop trying to edit from here, MDW. [[WP:PROXYING]] does apply. Interpretation of that particular policy varies widely, and some admin will simply block on the first instance, rather than warn you. I'm choosing to simply warn you as I would rather see you be able to keep talk page access. It's a tightrope, I know, but it's already been mentioned elsewhere. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<b>2&cent;</b>]] 00:34, 18 May 2024 (UTC) *:Okay. As far as I can see, though, this falls under [[Wikipedia:IAR|IAR]]. My helping fix my DYK nomination is pretty clearly helpful and productive. Also, what policy says is that "Editors who reinstate edits made by a banned or blocked editor take complete responsibility for the content". I see no reason why the content is bad or disruptive in any way@[[User:Dennis Brown|Dennis Brown]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 09:57, 19 May 2024 (UTC) *::@[[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] The sanction imposed on you is a month-long block from contributing to this project, so that it runs more smoothly, since your participation to-date has been too much of a disruption. You should '''refrain''' from all and any attempts to participate in the project for one month, since that's the essence of a block. Directing other editors in editing Wikipedia content and tagging other editors in order to argue with them is explictly going against the spirit of the sanction. Be warned. — [[User:Kashmiri|<span style="color:#30c;font:italic bold 1em 'Candara';text-shadow:#aaf 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em;">kashmīrī</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Kashmiri|<sup style="color:#80f;font-family:'Candara';">TALK</sup>]] 10:45, 19 May 2024 (UTC) *::Looking at [[WP:BMB]] and [[WP:BE]], I think current community consensus documented in the banning and blocking policies is that evading sanctions and sockpuppetry are generally not seen as justifiable by [[WP:IAR]]. It's less clear about user talk pages and proxying, but I would still avoid trying to use "IAR" as a justification there either. Discussions about proxying are about the policy's wording and meaning, not about whether it can be ignored. [[User:ToBeFree|&#126; ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 10:45, 19 May 2024 (UTC) *:::Well, the purpose of IAR, unless I am misunderstanding, is to prevent something like this. A rule is preventing constructive contributions. Also, I am not directing anyone to do anything, I responded on this talk page, which another editor (which, while I appreciate it, I did '''not''' tell them to do) transcluded it to the DYK nomination. @[[User:ToBeFree|ToBeFree]]@[[User:Kashmiri|Kashmiri]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 11:05, 19 May 2024 (UTC) *::::{{u|Me Da Wikipedian}}, there's a bit of irony about this on a meta level: Even during a block that's meant to prevent this from happening, editor time is suddenly drawn to a discussion about proxying (even at [[Wikipedia_talk:Blocking_policy#Proxy_edits_for_blocked_user|the talk page of the blocking policy]]) because your good-faith contributions upset other editors. And even if only for that reason, perhaps you can agree to stop editing – entirely – until the block expires. [[User:ToBeFree|&#126; ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 11:16, 19 May 2024 (UTC) *:::::Okay, that is fair. Also, yeah, something is wrong with the process if good contributions wind up in disruptive conversations to enforce and rule prevent good contributions. But whatever. Assuming you're still opposed to unblocking me(:@[[User:ToBeFree|ToBeFree]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 11:25, 19 May 2024 (UTC) *::::::The problem is that different admin interpret the policy different. Some see any conversation that discusses changes to an article as a reason to take away talk page access, some are a bit more forgiving, and others (like myself) are a bit more liberal in allowing discussion regarding articles as long as it isn't direct proxy editing (telling someone to go add exact material, or verbally continuing an edit war, etc). To be honest, my warning was to head off a potential removal of TPA, as I ''personally'' didn't see any problem with doing a little clean up on a DYK because others were depending on it, but I just know that (again) others are much more strict. It would probably be helpful if there was more clarity on this, and honestly, we are probably overdue on an RFC to more clearly define what is and isn't ok on a user's talk page. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<b>2&cent;</b>]] 12:44, 19 May 2024 (UTC) *:::::::Not to actually proxy edit, but I agree we need some discussion on what that means.@[[User:Dennis Brown|Dennis Brown]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 13:41, 19 May 2024 (UTC) == Please Don't Edit My User Page == Blocked, but @[[User:Plastikspork|Plastikspork]], please don't arbitrarily remove stuff from '''my''' user page. Thank you and have a nice day. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 15:56, 26 May 2024 (UTC) == Some bubble tea for you! (yes) == {| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;" |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Bubble Tea.png|65px]] |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Finally unblocked! I really thank you for the anti-vandalism work. [[User:Rrjmrrr|Rrjmrrr]] ([[User talk:Rrjmrrr|talk]]) 15:10, 8 June 2024 (UTC) |} :Thank you.@[[User:Rrjmrrr|Rrjmrrr]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 10:13, 9 June 2024 (UTC) ==DYK nomination of Lineage (anthropology)== [[File:Symbol question.svg|25px]] Hello! Your submission of [[Lineage (anthropology)]] at the [[Template talk:DYK|Did You Know nominations page]] has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at '''[[Template:Did you know nominations/Lineage (anthropology)|your nomination's entry]]''' and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! <!--Template:DYKproblem--> [[User:Rjjiii|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;">Rjj<sup>iii</sup></span>]] ([[User talk:Rjjiii#top|talk]]) 21:41, 8 June 2024 (UTC) == Trouted == {{trout}} You have been trouted for: YOUR REASON HERE [[User:Avyanna.Owam|Avyanna.Owam]] ([[User talk:Avyanna.Owam|talk]]) 09:52, 9 June 2024 (UTC) Criticism and violent communicating skills :Please elaborate. What did I do specifically and where? And also don't mess with my user page@[[User:Avyanna.Owam|Avyanna.Owam]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 10:13, 9 June 2024 (UTC) == Update on your course == Hi there! Just letting you know that the new stage will be available shortly. I have evaluated most answers and hope you would benefit from them, as well as the relevant feedback. I will also review your contributions and see whether you reverted pages accurately or not, and give relevant advice on them. I saw that you were given a WikiLove message, and also your DYK nom failed... Keep it up! [[User:ToadetteEdit|<span style="color:#fc65b8;">'''Toadette'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:ToadetteEdit|<span style="color:blue;">Edit!</span>]]</sup> 16:32, 16 June 2024 (UTC) :On [[user talk:2A02:C7C:6C2B:D900:E0E7:6EC3:4366:2EF1|this talk page]], you warned an ip with {{tl|uw-vand4}} even though a 4 (and even 4im) level warning is already present and on the same day. RedWarn should notify you that after it detects 4 or 4im you should be advised to take the ip to [[wp:AIV]]. Twinkle also says that after detection. You should be aware of the talk page first and decide whether you should give them a warning or in case of a 4 or 4im report them to AIV. [[User:ToadetteEdit|<span style="color:#fc65b8;">'''Toadette'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:ToadetteEdit|<span style="color:blue;">Edit!</span>]]</sup> 16:45, 16 June 2024 (UTC) ::Thanks. I am pretty swamped by WikiNews but will be here in a day or two. {{ping|ToadetteEdit}} [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 19:47, 17 June 2024 (UTC) :::The next stage is available now. Find 20 instances of vandalism or other disruptive edit and recorded in the provided table there. [[User:ToadetteEdit|<span style="color:#fc65b8;">'''Toadette'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:ToadetteEdit|<span style="color:blue;">Edit!</span>]]</sup> 10:28, 19 June 2024 (UTC) ::::Thats a lot...but I guess it does give me something else to do other than spam Wikinews with new articles...@[[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 10:29, 19 June 2024 (UTC) ::::And...done but I had a hard time finding tes tedits...@[[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 11:50, 19 June 2024 (UTC) ::"RedWarn should notify you that after it detects 4 or 4im you should be advised to take the ip to wp:AIV" never seen that. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 11:50, 19 June 2024 (UTC) == Anti Vandalism Barnstar == {| style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;" |rowspan="2" style="vertical-align:middle;" | [[File:Barnstar of Reversion Hires.png|100px]] |rowspan="2" | |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;" | '''The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar''' |- |style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | This is for your valuable efforts on countering [[WP:Vandalism|Vandalism]] and protecting Wikipedia from it's threats. I appreciate your effort. You are a defender of Wikipedia. Thank you. '''[[User:Path slopu|<span style="color:Red">PA</span><span style="color:Green">TH</span>]] [[User talk:Path slopu|<span style="color:Blue">SL</span><span style="color:Maroon">OP</span><span style="color:Darkorange">U</span>]]''' 11:07, 19 June 2024 (UTC) |}<!--template:The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar--> :Thank you. Thanks for your counter-vandalism as well. @[[User:Path slopu|Path slopu]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 11:07, 19 June 2024 (UTC) == What do you mean? == What do you mean by "And I need 6 sources there and 2 sources in the other place because one for each time. If you can find one of all 6 or 2, please add it instead"? Why do you need six source for a very simple statement "Two attempts have been made to recover an Electron booster by helicopter."? A single source is sufficient. [[User:Ergzay|Ergzay]] ([[User talk:Ergzay|talk]]) 07:15, 24 June 2024 (UTC) :There are 2 statement. :Statement 1:'''2 attempts have been made to recover an Electron booster by helicopter'''. The two sources are each of the times. If you can find 1 source for both times, please do. :Statement 2:'''In addition, six attempts have been made at soft water recovery'''. The last 5 sources were needed, each verifying 1 recovery attempt. The first source actually didn't verify it. I have replaced it. :@[[User:Ergzay|Ergzay]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 10:36, 24 June 2024 (UTC) ::You don't need a source for every single attempt. You only need the most recent source as it'll say something like "this is the second time this has been attempted". [[User:Ergzay|Ergzay]] ([[User talk:Ergzay|talk]]) 17:45, 24 June 2024 (UTC) :::I actually can't see the some of the bloomberg article since its subscribers only. I also don't see the 6th source saying that either. Does Bloomberg in fact say that? I would be happy to do it in one source if we can though@[[User:Ergzay|Ergzay]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 21:12, 24 June 2024 (UTC) ::::"In a previous mission, Rocket Lab caught a booster after a return from space, but the helicopter pilot chose to drop the rocket immediately for technical reasons." [[User:Ergzay|Ergzay]] ([[User talk:Ergzay|talk]]) 01:18, 25 June 2024 (UTC) :::::Okay then. And the other claim...@[[User:Ergzay|Ergzay]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 02:04, 25 June 2024 (UTC) {{subst:alert/first|a-i}} ~~~~'
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' == BLP Issues == As a very late reply, I just stumbled upon [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Daniel_Kolenda&diff=prev&oldid=1220786514] and wanted to make sure that you are aware of [[WP:BLPPRIMARY]] when the block expires. You do not need to reply to this message; it is purely for your information and may be unnecessary by now. [[User:ToBeFree|&#126; ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 23:30, 29 May 2024 (UTC) ::I was not aware, thank you for bringing that to my attention@[[User:ToBeFree|ToBeFree]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 23:32, 29 May 2024 (UTC) :::No worries, thanks! [[User:ToBeFree|&#126; ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 23:35, 29 May 2024 (UTC) ::::Your welcome. Just wondering, other than the obvious (what I've been doing, trying to read the policies and not make mistakes), what should I do to not get blocked again in a week@[[User:ToBeFree|ToBeFree]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 23:50, 29 May 2024 (UTC) :::::I honestly don't know. I mean, the most obvious way would be not editing => not getting blocked. But the best way to leave the old troubles behind while continuing to edit would perhaps be doing something entirely else than before – for example, not patrolling recent changes. Something else from the [[WP:Task Center|Task Center]] or the [[WP:Community portal|community portal]] than before. But that's far, far easier said than done. Why would anyone continue contributing to a volunteer project if their favorite tasks are prohibited for them? That makes it hard to provide a good answer; you'll probably need to consider why you're editing Wikipedia and if the same goal can be reached by doing things radically differently than before. Alternatively, you can of course continue recent changed patrolling, but the usual "I look at an edit, check if it's bad and simply revert if it is bad" approach has failed so far and you'd at least need to invent a new... algorithm for dealing with recent changes. A new way of approaching them. For example, a big issue may very well have been a perceived urgency to revert. You've been blocked for a month and Wikipedia is still running, so the urgency isn't actually there. Perhaps the most important point to remember more often is that your contributions are those of a volunteer and entirely optional in a huge community of others who can perform the same tasks. Yes, some biographies have issues and biographical issues may actually be urgent, but there is a considerable risk of making things worse by blindly jumping into them, so perhaps don't, at least not for a while after the block. Staying away from biographical content about living people reduces the amount of possible BLP violations to almost 0, and there's enough vandalism in articles about history too. :::::I would normally not provide such detailed advice to a volunteer who can just do what they like to do, but you genuinely seem to be seeking (almost step-by-step) instructions for how to continue, and perhaps rules to adhere to, and staying away from biographies of living people may actually be part of the advice you're looking for. If not, please ignore this message. Block expired means block expired; there are no strict conditions. [[User:ToBeFree|&#126; ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 00:04, 30 May 2024 (UTC) ::::::So, I may as well be blocked if I'm not editing to not get blocked. I would like, if possible, continue doing counter-vandalism work. I will stay away from BLPs for a few months. While I know block expired means block expired, if I'm blocked immediatly thereafter for the same thing, whats the point. ::::::Another thing is that, as far I know, I've been fine on simplewiki. I have done '''anything''' different in counter-vandalism there than here. Any ideas to why I've been having such a bigger issue here? ::::::Thank you.{{ping|ToBeFree}} [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 00:26, 30 May 2024 (UTC) :::::::I don't want to be unfair towards their community including {{u|Vermont}} who I deeply trust, but I'm afraid the following explanations are the most plausible: :::::::* Article content there is less important to a topic's reputation, so there's less damage to be done and less publicity to be gained, and people (you <em>and</em> those looking at your edits, and probably even the vandals) behave with this in mind :::::::* There are not enough people competent and caring about high-quality verifiable, neutral content enough to check experienced users' work and deal with patrolling issues :::::::Things like that. [[User:ToBeFree|&#126; ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 00:42, 30 May 2024 (UTC) ==DYK nomination of Lineage (anthropology)== [[File:Symbol question.svg|25px]] Hello! Your submission of [[Lineage (anthropology)]] at the [[Template talk:DYK|Did You Know nominations page]] has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at '''[[Template:Did you know nominations/Lineage (anthropology)|your nomination's entry]]''' and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! <!--Template:DYKproblem--> --[[User:evrik|evrik]]&nbsp;<sup>([[User talk:evrik|talk]])</sup> 01:45, 16 May 2024 (UTC) :@[[User:Evrik|Evrik]] User is blocked until June 5 and will not be able to participate at DYK at this time. -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 01:52, 16 May 2024 (UTC) :*Yup. --[[User:evrik|evrik]]&nbsp;<sup>([[User talk:evrik|talk]])</sup> 01:56, 16 May 2024 (UTC) :I can however respond, here, and I will. It was in the article when it was submitted. Anyways, here is a new one:Did you know that [[Lineage (anthropology)|lineages]] often have [[religion|religious]] significance, determining ones religion and there role in that religion<ref>https://collegeofarms.euclid.int/tracing-roots-the-significance-of-family-trees-in-traditional-societies/</ref>. Also, I do not appreciate unfounded allegations by @[[User:RoySmith|RoySmith]] that I am wasting their time and a sock. Thank you. @[[User:Evrik|Evrik]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 20:49, 16 May 2024 (UTC) ::Yeah @[[User:Rjjiii|Rjjiii]], maybe https://verfassungsblog.de/the-stubborn-subversiveness-of-judaisms-matrilineal-principle/ is better [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 00:24, 17 May 2024 (UTC) *You probably want to stop trying to edit from here, MDW. [[WP:PROXYING]] does apply. Interpretation of that particular policy varies widely, and some admin will simply block on the first instance, rather than warn you. I'm choosing to simply warn you as I would rather see you be able to keep talk page access. It's a tightrope, I know, but it's already been mentioned elsewhere. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<b>2&cent;</b>]] 00:34, 18 May 2024 (UTC) *:Okay. As far as I can see, though, this falls under [[Wikipedia:IAR|IAR]]. My helping fix my DYK nomination is pretty clearly helpful and productive. Also, what policy says is that "Editors who reinstate edits made by a banned or blocked editor take complete responsibility for the content". I see no reason why the content is bad or disruptive in any way@[[User:Dennis Brown|Dennis Brown]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 09:57, 19 May 2024 (UTC) *::@[[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] The sanction imposed on you is a month-long block from contributing to this project, so that it runs more smoothly, since your participation to-date has been too much of a disruption. You should '''refrain''' from all and any attempts to participate in the project for one month, since that's the essence of a block. Directing other editors in editing Wikipedia content and tagging other editors in order to argue with them is explictly going against the spirit of the sanction. Be warned. — [[User:Kashmiri|<span style="color:#30c;font:italic bold 1em 'Candara';text-shadow:#aaf 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em;">kashmīrī</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Kashmiri|<sup style="color:#80f;font-family:'Candara';">TALK</sup>]] 10:45, 19 May 2024 (UTC) *::Looking at [[WP:BMB]] and [[WP:BE]], I think current community consensus documented in the banning and blocking policies is that evading sanctions and sockpuppetry are generally not seen as justifiable by [[WP:IAR]]. It's less clear about user talk pages and proxying, but I would still avoid trying to use "IAR" as a justification there either. Discussions about proxying are about the policy's wording and meaning, not about whether it can be ignored. [[User:ToBeFree|&#126; ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 10:45, 19 May 2024 (UTC) *:::Well, the purpose of IAR, unless I am misunderstanding, is to prevent something like this. A rule is preventing constructive contributions. Also, I am not directing anyone to do anything, I responded on this talk page, which another editor (which, while I appreciate it, I did '''not''' tell them to do) transcluded it to the DYK nomination. @[[User:ToBeFree|ToBeFree]]@[[User:Kashmiri|Kashmiri]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 11:05, 19 May 2024 (UTC) *::::{{u|Me Da Wikipedian}}, there's a bit of irony about this on a meta level: Even during a block that's meant to prevent this from happening, editor time is suddenly drawn to a discussion about proxying (even at [[Wikipedia_talk:Blocking_policy#Proxy_edits_for_blocked_user|the talk page of the blocking policy]]) because your good-faith contributions upset other editors. And even if only for that reason, perhaps you can agree to stop editing – entirely – until the block expires. [[User:ToBeFree|&#126; ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 11:16, 19 May 2024 (UTC) *:::::Okay, that is fair. Also, yeah, something is wrong with the process if good contributions wind up in disruptive conversations to enforce and rule prevent good contributions. But whatever. Assuming you're still opposed to unblocking me(:@[[User:ToBeFree|ToBeFree]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 11:25, 19 May 2024 (UTC) *::::::The problem is that different admin interpret the policy different. Some see any conversation that discusses changes to an article as a reason to take away talk page access, some are a bit more forgiving, and others (like myself) are a bit more liberal in allowing discussion regarding articles as long as it isn't direct proxy editing (telling someone to go add exact material, or verbally continuing an edit war, etc). To be honest, my warning was to head off a potential removal of TPA, as I ''personally'' didn't see any problem with doing a little clean up on a DYK because others were depending on it, but I just know that (again) others are much more strict. It would probably be helpful if there was more clarity on this, and honestly, we are probably overdue on an RFC to more clearly define what is and isn't ok on a user's talk page. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<b>2&cent;</b>]] 12:44, 19 May 2024 (UTC) *:::::::Not to actually proxy edit, but I agree we need some discussion on what that means.@[[User:Dennis Brown|Dennis Brown]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 13:41, 19 May 2024 (UTC) == Please Don't Edit My User Page == Blocked, but @[[User:Plastikspork|Plastikspork]], please don't arbitrarily remove stuff from '''my''' user page. Thank you and have a nice day. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 15:56, 26 May 2024 (UTC) == Some bubble tea for you! (yes) == {| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;" |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Bubble Tea.png|65px]] |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Finally unblocked! I really thank you for the anti-vandalism work. [[User:Rrjmrrr|Rrjmrrr]] ([[User talk:Rrjmrrr|talk]]) 15:10, 8 June 2024 (UTC) |} :Thank you.@[[User:Rrjmrrr|Rrjmrrr]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 10:13, 9 June 2024 (UTC) ==DYK nomination of Lineage (anthropology)== [[File:Symbol question.svg|25px]] Hello! Your submission of [[Lineage (anthropology)]] at the [[Template talk:DYK|Did You Know nominations page]] has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at '''[[Template:Did you know nominations/Lineage (anthropology)|your nomination's entry]]''' and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! <!--Template:DYKproblem--> [[User:Rjjiii|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;">Rjj<sup>iii</sup></span>]] ([[User talk:Rjjiii#top|talk]]) 21:41, 8 June 2024 (UTC) == Trouted == {{trout}} You have been trouted for: YOUR REASON HERE [[User:Avyanna.Owam|Avyanna.Owam]] ([[User talk:Avyanna.Owam|talk]]) 09:52, 9 June 2024 (UTC) Criticism and violent communicating skills :Please elaborate. What did I do specifically and where? And also don't mess with my user page@[[User:Avyanna.Owam|Avyanna.Owam]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 10:13, 9 June 2024 (UTC) == Update on your course == Hi there! Just letting you know that the new stage will be available shortly. I have evaluated most answers and hope you would benefit from them, as well as the relevant feedback. I will also review your contributions and see whether you reverted pages accurately or not, and give relevant advice on them. I saw that you were given a WikiLove message, and also your DYK nom failed... Keep it up! [[User:ToadetteEdit|<span style="color:#fc65b8;">'''Toadette'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:ToadetteEdit|<span style="color:blue;">Edit!</span>]]</sup> 16:32, 16 June 2024 (UTC) :On [[user talk:2A02:C7C:6C2B:D900:E0E7:6EC3:4366:2EF1|this talk page]], you warned an ip with {{tl|uw-vand4}} even though a 4 (and even 4im) level warning is already present and on the same day. RedWarn should notify you that after it detects 4 or 4im you should be advised to take the ip to [[wp:AIV]]. Twinkle also says that after detection. You should be aware of the talk page first and decide whether you should give them a warning or in case of a 4 or 4im report them to AIV. [[User:ToadetteEdit|<span style="color:#fc65b8;">'''Toadette'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:ToadetteEdit|<span style="color:blue;">Edit!</span>]]</sup> 16:45, 16 June 2024 (UTC) ::Thanks. I am pretty swamped by WikiNews but will be here in a day or two. {{ping|ToadetteEdit}} [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 19:47, 17 June 2024 (UTC) :::The next stage is available now. Find 20 instances of vandalism or other disruptive edit and recorded in the provided table there. [[User:ToadetteEdit|<span style="color:#fc65b8;">'''Toadette'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:ToadetteEdit|<span style="color:blue;">Edit!</span>]]</sup> 10:28, 19 June 2024 (UTC) ::::Thats a lot...but I guess it does give me something else to do other than spam Wikinews with new articles...@[[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 10:29, 19 June 2024 (UTC) ::::And...done but I had a hard time finding tes tedits...@[[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 11:50, 19 June 2024 (UTC) ::"RedWarn should notify you that after it detects 4 or 4im you should be advised to take the ip to wp:AIV" never seen that. [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 11:50, 19 June 2024 (UTC) == Anti Vandalism Barnstar == {| style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;" |rowspan="2" style="vertical-align:middle;" | [[File:Barnstar of Reversion Hires.png|100px]] |rowspan="2" | |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;" | '''The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar''' |- |style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | This is for your valuable efforts on countering [[WP:Vandalism|Vandalism]] and protecting Wikipedia from it's threats. I appreciate your effort. You are a defender of Wikipedia. Thank you. '''[[User:Path slopu|<span style="color:Red">PA</span><span style="color:Green">TH</span>]] [[User talk:Path slopu|<span style="color:Blue">SL</span><span style="color:Maroon">OP</span><span style="color:Darkorange">U</span>]]''' 11:07, 19 June 2024 (UTC) |}<!--template:The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar--> :Thank you. Thanks for your counter-vandalism as well. @[[User:Path slopu|Path slopu]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 11:07, 19 June 2024 (UTC) == What do you mean? == What do you mean by "And I need 6 sources there and 2 sources in the other place because one for each time. If you can find one of all 6 or 2, please add it instead"? Why do you need six source for a very simple statement "Two attempts have been made to recover an Electron booster by helicopter."? A single source is sufficient. [[User:Ergzay|Ergzay]] ([[User talk:Ergzay|talk]]) 07:15, 24 June 2024 (UTC) :There are 2 statement. :Statement 1:'''2 attempts have been made to recover an Electron booster by helicopter'''. The two sources are each of the times. If you can find 1 source for both times, please do. :Statement 2:'''In addition, six attempts have been made at soft water recovery'''. The last 5 sources were needed, each verifying 1 recovery attempt. The first source actually didn't verify it. I have replaced it. :@[[User:Ergzay|Ergzay]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 10:36, 24 June 2024 (UTC) ::You don't need a source for every single attempt. You only need the most recent source as it'll say something like "this is the second time this has been attempted". [[User:Ergzay|Ergzay]] ([[User talk:Ergzay|talk]]) 17:45, 24 June 2024 (UTC) :::I actually can't see the some of the bloomberg article since its subscribers only. I also don't see the 6th source saying that either. Does Bloomberg in fact say that? I would be happy to do it in one source if we can though@[[User:Ergzay|Ergzay]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 21:12, 24 June 2024 (UTC) ::::"In a previous mission, Rocket Lab caught a booster after a return from space, but the helicopter pilot chose to drop the rocket immediately for technical reasons." [[User:Ergzay|Ergzay]] ([[User talk:Ergzay|talk]]) 01:18, 25 June 2024 (UTC) :::::Okay then. And the other claim...@[[User:Ergzay|Ergzay]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian#top|talk]]) 02:04, 25 June 2024 (UTC) == Introduction to contentious topics == {{ivmbox | image = Commons-emblem-notice.svg |imagesize=50px | bg = #E5F8FF | text = You have recently edited a page related to '''the [[Arab–Israeli conflict]]''', a topic designated as '''[[WP:AC/CT|contentious]]'''. This is a brief introduction to contentious topics and <em>does <strong>not</strong> imply that there are any issues with your editing</em>. A special set of rules applies to certain topic areas, which are referred to as ''contentious topics''. These are specially designated topics that tend to attract more persistent disruptive editing than the rest of the project and have been designated as contentious topics by the Arbitration Committee. 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Whether or not the change was made through a Tor exit node (tor_exit_node)
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Unix timestamp of change (timestamp)
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