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Segun Toyin Dawodu, MD, JD, MBA

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Uhooep (talk) 15:42, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This issue was extensively discussed in the past and reference should be made to the discussion in 2009. The individual qualified as one of the earliest bloggers as far back as 1997 when he started the first blog on Nigeria's sociopolitical issues ie Dawodu.com. A lot of the articles on Wikipedia have references to this website on issues of Nigeria's sociopolitical discussions because it is the pioneer website. Ck Anopueme Ckanopueme (talk) 10:28, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Further review of past discussions showed that the same concern expressed by you was addressed in 2009 over period of time. Noticed also that connection to Oxford was removed by you without any basis. I see elements of bias here. Ck Anopueme Ckanopueme (talk) 15:42, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have looked at university of Oxford webpages and alumni webpages and came to this website:-

https://www.phc.ox.ac.uk/team/segun-dawodu

So, I am surprised that as part of your actions, you deleted every statement saying his connection to Oxford University. . This has again shown your bias on deleting a specific part of the article and then asking for deletion.

This portion of the article will be corrected by reinstating the Oxford I formation based on what I have.

The article is about a pioneer blogger especially on socio-economic, political and historical perspectives of Nigeria since 1997 with that website become a very I portant resource and reference cited by many articles in Wikipedia. Those issues were raised in 2009 and the right conclusion made. Kindly make defence to previous discussions in 2009 as you were not a member of the Wikipedia editorial team in 2009.

Thanks. Ck Anopueme Ckanopueme (talk) 14:15, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Uhooep, going through the sub, I noticed that you made deletions that were uncalled for and then messed up the references by deleting some and making others to reference the wrong part of the stub.

I will take this as an action from you based on bias and malice and will urge to go back and correct the references that you have mismatched as this will be additional work for those of us who worked on the stub for years ever before you became an editor.

I hope others will take note and that this attitude of malice and bias should never be tolerated on this platform. Ck Anopueme Ckanopueme (talk) 22:55, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not make personal attacks against other editors or question their motivations. Assume good faith. Attacking other editors is a quick way to find yourself blocked on this platform. It's especially strange since in the DRV, you accuse other editors that they are making personal comments about you and here you are, doing much worse. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:59, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Jclemens (talk) 02:05, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

July 2024

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 31 hours for making personal attacks towards other editors. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. – robertsky (talk) 12:53, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. My replies were in response to personal attacks on me. It takes two to tango and the block should be removed. Ck Anopueme Ckanopueme (talk) 13:31, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And the diffs for those personal attacks? – robertsky (talk) 13:33, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

Thanks. My replies were in response to personal attacks on me. It takes two to tango and the block should be removed. :The other editors refused to focus on issues being discussed but opted to threaten me. This is an attempt to prevent me from partaking on the discussion of deletion of an article and i think this is unfair Ck Anopueme Ckanopueme (talk) 13:37, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

This indicates you think your actions were appropriate. They weren't. Yamla (talk) 13:44, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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again, what are the personal attacks made on you? If you are accusing others, where are the diffs of these attacks? And two wrongs don't make one right. If others are making personal attacks on you, request them to stop or have someone intervene for you. – robertsky (talk) 13:41, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Beyond that, with eighteen commments from Ckanopueme beyond their opening statement, totaling an astonishing three thousand words, and responding to every single Endorse voter before the block, they cannot credibly claim that they haven't already had vast scope for fighting their corner. Ravenswing 15:53, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fair but there is news to respond to erroneous comments especially when the core issue of notability has been swept under the rug Ck Anopueme Ckanopueme (talk) 16:46, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"news" = needs Ck Anopueme Ckanopueme (talk) 16:47, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think you might have confused two different processes. I will try to explain clearly.

First, there was a deletion discussion at Articles for Deletion (AfD). That is this page here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Segun Toyin Dawodu (2nd nomination). On that page, editors discussed notability and other core issues. When a deletion discussion is currently running, you can offer new sources and explain why something is notable. Once it has closed, that is the end of the discussion. Here, you can see, everyone looked at the article and explained why they believed the article should be deleted. Everyone believed that the article should be deleted, and so the discussion was closed and the article was deleted like everyone agreed.

Now, you have done a deletion review at Deletion Reviews (DRV). That is this page: Wikipedia:Deletion review#Segun Toyin Dawodu. At a deletion review, the only thing being discussed is whether the editor who closed the review understood the consensus. So if all the editors at AfD said 'delete', and the closer said 'everyone said keep', that would be a mistake and then a deletion review would be able to change that decision. But here all the editors said 'delete', and the closer said 'everyone said delete', so we can see the closer was correct: the consensus was to delete the article. Everyone agreed. That is the only thing people can look at in DRV. That is the only thing they can talk about. Nothing matters except one question: Did the closer accurately state the consensus? That is why everyone is endorsing the close, because the closer said everyone decided to delete it, and that's exactly what they did say.

I hope that helps you understand why notability is not being talked about now. We have moved past the point where you can try to show notability. These talks about notability can only happen at a deletion discussion (AfD), not after the discussion has finished (DRV). I know this is probably very disappointing and frustrating, but that is the situation now.

Please take some time to look after yourself and relax. I hope you feel better very soon. StartGrammarTime (talk) 18:39, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The AfD was not properly and adequately notified to me and this allowed few to deliberate on it without option to hear from the author of the article. That lacks due process.

What I did was to provide the proper context to reconsider the situation.

It is obvious that Wikipedia does things differently from the real world and that is sad.

As stated in some of my postings, I am not worried about the article being reinstated but rather about how the process was implemented.

The subject of the article is not aware of my efforts and I doubt if he will be bothered as he is prominent on many platforms including the top medical article platform in the world and another top platform in the world for rehabilitation medicine along with his blog.

For me, I am not bothered especially now that I am aware of how Wikipedia is managed. No system survives for long if managed this way and one can only wait and see. As a journalist I plan on writing an article about this experience of how due process is managed within Wikipedia

Thanks. Ck Anopueme Ckanopueme (talk) 18:55, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You were, in fact, properly notified of the AfD. That notification is sitting right here on your talk page, uptopic, for all to see. You made four responses to the notification right here, all well before the AfD was closed. That you failed to click on the link to exercise your privilege of taking part in that discussion is on you. It's not even that you don't know how the process works, because the article went through a prior AfD in which you contributed. Ravenswing 22:51, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Probably that was an error on my part that I replied to UHooep instead of the group. It is not as if o do this every year. The last time this happened was in 2009.

As stated previously, it is not a big deal as the subject of the article has presence in notability at much higher and professional level while ironically, there are at least 50 articles in Wikipedia that references his website Dawodu.com because it has information that were first available on that site globally. This was how I got interested in the website as a journalist as it became a primary source for a lot of historical information about Nigeria.

So every time people read articles referencing his website, his notability will be noted. I have been advised to let the show of bias and prejudice be as that defines Wikipedia. I have a feeling that this is not new and sooner or later others will speak up. Nothing of this nature can be hidden forever.

I will ask others if it is worth restarting the page with updated information.

Thanks for engaging. Ck Anopueme Ckanopueme (talk) 23:31, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article subbject will be set up in future through collaboration with other editors Ck Anopueme Ckanopueme (talk) 18:56, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Topic ban

Per this ANI thread, you are now indefinitely topic-banned from any edits involving Segun Toyin Dawodu, broadly construed. This may be appealed to the administrators' noticeboard after 12 months, and once every 6 months after. Please let me know if you have any questions about your restrictions here. Elli (talk | contribs) 05:39, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]