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A barnstar for you!
[edit]The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar | |
This is a thank you for your quick defense of me in that absolutely bogus sockpuppet allegation. I'm not feeling well today and was also unable to be on Wikipedia for a couple of days due to being busy, so I'm very grateful and appreciate your help in this case. ChessEric 18:42, 29 October 2023 (UTC) |
- @ChessEric: Any time. Sorry to hear you aren't feeling well. TornadoLGS (talk) 22:01, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
Nomination of Emmett McAuliffe for deletion
[edit]The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Emmett McAuliffe until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.PetitCesar (talk) 16:33, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
Howdy!
[edit]Hey TornadoLGS
Just wanted to mention I haven't seen you around the tornado/severe weather article space in a while, it's good to see you editing these outbreak articles again as well as others! Wikiwillz (talk) 01:25, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Wikiwillz: Yeah a few life changes and other stuff going on has drawn me away from weather more than I'd like. I might pop in but still probably won't edit as much as I used to. TornadoLGS (talk) 01:28, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry to hear that, it's always good to see you around when you do pop in for sure. Thanks for all you do around here! Wikiwillz (talk) 01:31, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Wikiwillz: Not all bad. I got a new job, which is one thing that has taken up my time. TornadoLGS (talk) 01:33, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry to hear that, it's always good to see you around when you do pop in for sure. Thanks for all you do around here! Wikiwillz (talk) 01:31, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
Speedy deletion of a rapper HipHop singer Daniel Marc Mouyal
[edit]Can anyone please help me out, whats wrong with article i have written yesterday about the famous Singer Daniel Marc Mouyal ...
Draft:Daniel Marc Mouyal here it is in my draft now Djmooyall23 (talk) 18:08, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Daniel Marc Mouyal: The template at the top of the page gives the reasons your draft was rejected: it did not have adequate reliable sources and it was not written in a formal tone. I commented on your talk page because it appeared that you had written the page about yourself, which is strongly discouraged. From your later comments, it appears that you were paid by this person to write an article about them, which isn't exactly better. Any payment must be disclosed. TornadoLGS (talk) 20:06, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- I am paid by Daniel Marc Mouyal $50.00 on fiverr.com to write the article and upload it to wikipedia.org since he is featured in notable newspaper "The Jerusalem Post" and many online entertainment news sources such as "genius.com" "thesis50.com" and many more. Daniel Mouyal was also on #3 Hip-hop/R&B Canada charts on "Apple Music" and has over 18,000 subscribers on Youtube ( https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCk3hNPVssFQReVqjLCluQNA ). Daniel Mouyal is a rising sensation in music and entertainment.
- Also below are the references you can check from an authentic sources ...
- • https://genius.com/a/watch-daniel-mouyals-a-little-too-much-music-video
- • https://www.jpost.com/special-content/daniel-mouyal-releases-a-little-too-much-off-of-new-album-yeshiva-freshman-743187
- • https://thisis50.com/2023/04/15/daniel-mouyal-is-next-to-blow/
- • https://thisis50.com/2024/03/13/daniel-mouyal-signs-deal-at-roc-nation/
- • https://hiphopsince1987.com/2024/music/equity-roc-nations-distribution-division-will-be-releasing-daniel-mouyals-music/
- • https://hiphopsince1987.com/2023/music/genre-bending-maestro-daniel-mouyal-unveils-collaborative-extravaganza-in-new-album-house- of-g-d-featuring-project-pat-riff-raff-gucci-mane-camron-kool-g-rap-and-too-hort/ Djmooyall23 (talk) 10:48, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Daniel Marc Mouyal: Respond to the comments on your talk page, not mine. My involvement in your case is minimal. TornadoLGS (talk) 16:17, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
Page mover granted
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If you do not want the page mover right anymore, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Thank you, and happy editing! – robertsky (talk) 03:00, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
SPI
[edit]FYI, I opened a report about the accounts creating sandboxes about Western Community College: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Anshul Chinram. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 20:16, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. Looks like you have it covered. I don't think I have anything to add. TornadoLGS (talk) 20:19, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
CSD criterion
[edit]I noticed that you tagged Brian Benison with {{db-reason|1=Unsourced article was immediately re-created in mainspace after being draftified.|help=off}}
. The Twinkle option for "custom rationale" says:
{{db}} is short for "delete because". At least one of the other deletion criteria must still apply to the page, and you must make mention of this in your rationale. This is not a "catch-all" for when you can't find any criteria that fit.
In this case, {{db-copypaste}} (a subcategory of WP:G6) would apply, so you should use it (which I've added this time). If you can't find a CSD criterion that applies to a page, you shouldn't tag it for speedy deletion; instead, you should use an alternative like PROD, XFD, REVDEL, etc. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:39, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Jlwoodwa: Thanks I figured it was clearly inappropriate to immediately recreate an unsourced BLP article after it was draftified, but I wasn't sure exactly the criterion and PROD and XFD take too long. TornadoLGS (talk) 21:42, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
I have a somewhat abandoned draft article you can help me with
[edit]I invite you and anyone else who wants to to edit Draft:list of particularly dangerous situation watches. It seems as if that article has sorta been forgotten about. We’ve only gotten down to 2020 (for completely listed) and if I recall, the entries only go back to 2019. There’s still a lot more in IEM archives. Your help at expanding the list to mainspace ready format would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. West Virginia WXeditor (talk) 18:18, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- @WestVirginiaWX: It might be worth a scroll through SPC archives as well. That being said I have a few things to attend to off-wiki and may need to reduce the time I spend editing. TornadoLGS (talk) 04:22, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- That’s ok. I sent the same message to several other editors too. All I am trying to do is to get people’s attention about the draft because at the moment, I am the only person editing it. West Virginia WXeditor (talk) 16:29, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Also of note; the SPC Watch archive only gives us an extra two years; they go back to 2004. West Virginia WXeditor (talk) 23:10, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @WestVirginiaWX: Do we know when PDS watches were introduced? TornadoLGS (talk) 00:33, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Based on the List of SPC High Risk Days article; the first PDS Tornado Watch was issued on April 2, 1982, but records are very limited prior to the 2000s. As for the first Severe Thunderstorm Watch; I honestly don’t know. The first one that I know for sure there was a record of was in 2006; but that’s also conveniently as far back as the IEM archive goes, so there were very likely PDS Severe Thunderstorm Watches prior to 2006. I also have no idea where anyone could find records of PDS watches prior to about 2004 (which is as far back as the SPC archive goes). But I’ll also admit that I haven’t really looked much beyond the SPC and IEM for archive information. West Virginia WXeditor (talk) 04:29, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- But I would assume that PDS watches were introduced in 1982. West Virginia WXeditor (talk) 04:30, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- If someone knows the PIL code for Severe Thunderstorm Watches and Tornado Watches (I don’t know what that would be); someone could manually look though at least most the watches on record (the record has holes in it) and possibly fill in the gap with the PDS watches list. Because the IEM records include messages with standard PIL codes (prior to VTEC being established in 2005) and I believe those records go back to the 1980s I think. But it would take a while (probably a few weeks at least) to comb through all of those records if they exist at all. West Virginia WXeditor (talk) 04:37, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Don’t try to look for the PIL codes! The watches ain’t there! Ask ChrisWX he found out the hard way. He told me he couldn’t find anything on the IEM archive prior to the VTEC implementation in 2005. West Virginia WXeditor (talk) 09:30, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Don’t try to look for the PIL codes! The watches ain’t there! Ask ChrisWX he found out the hard way. He told me he couldn’t find anything on the IEM archive prior to the VTEC implementation in 2005. West Virginia WXeditor (talk) 09:30, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- If someone knows the PIL code for Severe Thunderstorm Watches and Tornado Watches (I don’t know what that would be); someone could manually look though at least most the watches on record (the record has holes in it) and possibly fill in the gap with the PDS watches list. Because the IEM records include messages with standard PIL codes (prior to VTEC being established in 2005) and I believe those records go back to the 1980s I think. But it would take a while (probably a few weeks at least) to comb through all of those records if they exist at all. West Virginia WXeditor (talk) 04:37, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- But I would assume that PDS watches were introduced in 1982. West Virginia WXeditor (talk) 04:30, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Based on the List of SPC High Risk Days article; the first PDS Tornado Watch was issued on April 2, 1982, but records are very limited prior to the 2000s. As for the first Severe Thunderstorm Watch; I honestly don’t know. The first one that I know for sure there was a record of was in 2006; but that’s also conveniently as far back as the IEM archive goes, so there were very likely PDS Severe Thunderstorm Watches prior to 2006. I also have no idea where anyone could find records of PDS watches prior to about 2004 (which is as far back as the SPC archive goes). But I’ll also admit that I haven’t really looked much beyond the SPC and IEM for archive information. West Virginia WXeditor (talk) 04:29, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- @WestVirginiaWX: Do we know when PDS watches were introduced? TornadoLGS (talk) 00:33, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Wonderdome Planetarium link
[edit]Hi, last night I updated a link on this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_planetariums It was a link from the word Wonderdome Planetarium to that website. I assumed this was valuable to the readers as many other planetariums have hyper links on the names of their planetariums? Please advise what I have done wrong. Thanks Matt Service4education (talk) 07:03, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Service4education: The other links there are wikilinks, that is they lead to other Wikipedia articles. As a general rule, external links should not be inserted into the text of an article. You also added the same link to two unrelated articles, which was not appropriate and could easily be taken for spam even if it was well-intended. The message I left on your talk page contains a link to Wikipedia’s guidelines on external links. TornadoLGS (talk) 07:25, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Image reverted
[edit]respeted sir ,my name is DEVIREDDI prasanna Kumar ,sir I agree with your statement for copy from Instagram,it is open source profile ,that why iam using that photos ,no problem and iam not upload any abuse content jst I was changed latest profile photo of samyukutha menon ,she is a actress from Tamil film industry,please kindly accept my request.... Thank you sir DEVIREDDY PRASANNA KYMAR (talk) 04:49, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- @DEVIREDDY PRASANNA KYMAR: Not sure what you mean by it being "open source." Do you mean public domain? If it is, you would need to provide evidence that it is. Do not falsely claim it as your own work. If you found it on Instagram it is probably copyrighted and cannot be added. Just because an image can be downloaded from the Internet does not mean it is free to use. Most pictures of celebrities are copyrighted so, unfortunately, we often cannot have the best or most up-to date pictures. TornadoLGS (talk) 04:55, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- OK SIR I AGREE ,I WANT TO UPLOAD THAT IMAGE PLEASE GUIDE ME STEP BY STEP HOW TO UPLOAD THAT IMAGE ,SRY FOR MISTAKE PLEASE I KINDLY REQUEST I WANT TO UPLOAD THAT PHOTO ,MY INTENSION IS ONLY UPLOAD LATEST PIC OF ACTRESS THATS IT ,I CANNOT UPLOAD ANY ABBUSE CONTENT DEVIREDDY PRASANNA KYMAR (talk) 04:58, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- @DEVIREDDY PRASANNA KYMAR: To be blunt, the image is copyrighted. Uploading it is not permitted. There is nothing that can be done about it. TornadoLGS (talk) 06:10, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- OK SIR I AGREE ,I WANT TO UPLOAD THAT IMAGE PLEASE GUIDE ME STEP BY STEP HOW TO UPLOAD THAT IMAGE ,SRY FOR MISTAKE PLEASE I KINDLY REQUEST I WANT TO UPLOAD THAT PHOTO ,MY INTENSION IS ONLY UPLOAD LATEST PIC OF ACTRESS THATS IT ,I CANNOT UPLOAD ANY ABBUSE CONTENT DEVIREDDY PRASANNA KYMAR (talk) 04:58, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Behavenet movie links
[edit]I wonder if you looked at the pages you identified as "spam", which I consider a personal attack, before you removed the links. These pages were only added to movies with extensive psychiatric/addiction content and are comparable in quality to books like Danny Wedding's Movies and Mental Illness. As such they represent an invaluable resource for study of psychiatry and Cinema without comparison on the Web. If you care about users of Wikipedia, you will restore them immediately. Plyingfig (talk) 22:19, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Plyingfig: Our dispute was months ago so I suggest you stop beating a dead horse. I’ll say though it is not Wikipedia’s responsibility to right great wrongs. I identified the links as spam because that is usually the case when one user keeps adding the same link to multiple articles. Nothing personal was meant by it. If you want a second opinion, I suggest you go to the help desk. Please remember to keep any comments there civil and comment on content, not contributors. TornadoLGS (talk) 23:22, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- I did not add the same link to multiple articles. Each of the BehaveNet pages I linked to includes excerpts of dialog (and sometimes decriptions of scenes, discussion of mental health issues, references from other movies) from a single movies. Plyingfig (talk) 22:30, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Plyingfig: I should have said links to the same site. Same difference. In any case, looking back at your talk page, it seems I only gave you a level-3 warning because several other editors had cautioned you about adding external links going back some years. Given that, from looking around a bit, you might want to get more input at the external links noticeboard. TornadoLGS (talk) 22:56, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- I did not add the same link to multiple articles. Each of the BehaveNet pages I linked to includes excerpts of dialog (and sometimes decriptions of scenes, discussion of mental health issues, references from other movies) from a single movies. Plyingfig (talk) 22:30, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
"OH, SHIT"
[edit]aight MotoMottor (talk) 22:10, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
Hurricane Beryl
[edit]Hello TornadoLGS! I got a message from you saying my info was incorrect on the Beryl page, but 934 millibars (the only thing I changed) was confirmed by aircraft’s currently inside the storm. If you believe the info I said was wrong, that’s totally ok! Thanks! 2601:CC:8100:8CF0:3DF1:6E11:3E83:63B (talk) 01:24, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
Discord
[edit]Say werent we friends on discord a while ago? Im not sure what happened to you but I hope everything is going alright for you Colin777724 (talk) 23:29, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Colin777724: I blocked you on there because I thought your account was hacked. 00:07, 11 July 2024 (UTC) TornadoLGS (talk) 00:07, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Well I have full control over it now and Im alot more cautious with scams. Colin777724 (talk) 07:29, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
List of F5 and EF5 tornadoes Improvement Time!
[edit]Hello there! I am sending this alert to all members of the WikiProject Weather and editors who have recently edited in the realm of tornadoes.
There is a large and important discussion ongoing, with the goal to completely overhaul and improve the List of F5 and EF5 tornadoes. The previous improvement attempt back in 2022/2023 gained almost no participation. This alert is being sent out so these discussions hopefully gain a reasonably-sized participation, so the F5/EF5 tornado article, one of the most viewed weather-related articles on Wikipedia, can be improved for all readers!
If you wish to participate, please visit: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Weather/Possible F5/EF5/IF5 tornadoes. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 16:08, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Weather Event Writer: I will probably pop in to comment at some point, but I have not been as active on-wiki lately. Though for the sort of selection I've done before, see the edits I made there in February 2020. TornadoLGS (talk) 21:44, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
Featured Picture Candidate!
[edit]I am please to let you know that I have nominated File:Greenfield IA tornado 2024.jpg, an image which you uploaded, to be a Featured Picture on Wikipedia! You can view the nomination here: Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Greenfield tornado. Cheers! The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 03:20, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
Sup!
[edit]Today, i have seen your warning/message you have sended to me. Well i know i suck at these articles, like before that, i was reading multiple articles, so i was maybe wondering, can you do a remake of my article of the 2007 Greensburg EF5 tornado? If so, i appreciate it. Like i know im new at this, so i may be terrible at these so yeah they will be garbage. See ya! Stronkgod (talk) 13:08, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Stronkgod: I haven't really been active lately and I don't have time to work on a full article at this time. The possibility of splitting off the Greensburg tornado is probably something that should be discussed at Talk:Tornado outbreak of May 4–6, 2007. Since you're a brand-new editor, I would recommend against creating new articles in mainspace: work on them as a WP:DRAFT instead and submit it through the Articles for Creation process. TornadoLGS (talk) 20:02, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
Alert: PD-NWS Violations
[edit]This is an alert being sent to all active editors on the WikiProject of Weather and any editor who has recently editors weather-related articles.
Editors on the Commons have received communication from the National Weather Service that the Template:PD-NWS, which is often used to upload weather-related images, is incorrect. There will be a discussion starting on the Commons Copyright Noticeboard within the next few days to determine how to manage this issue. Under the current PD-NWS copyright template, images on any NWS webpage was considered to be in the public domain unless it had a direct copyright symbol and/or copyright watermark.
One National Weather Service office has confirmed this is not the case. For the next few days, it may be best to not upload any image from an NWS webpage that was not made or taken directly by the National Weather Service themselves. Once the Commons determine how to move forward, editors will recent a new alert. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 23:41, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- @WeatherWriter: Could you link to some of these messages? I'd like to see it and at least one image I posted on the commons may be affected. TornadoLGS (talk) 00:02, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Commons:Deletion requests/File:Damage from the 1968 Charles City tornado just south of the Cedar River looking north.jpg is the full 81,000 byte discussion regarding it. Don't worry about anything yet. It appears NWS offices are disagreeing with each other. My personal guess is the Commons will resort to PD-NWS having specific offices listed that it covers and any office not under it is not covered. I'll let you know when that changes though. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 00:10, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Ugh. I do not feel like reading out that whole thing. I did check my Commons uploads at it seems I have four such pictures from non-NWS employees on the Commons. Are we talking about having 122 versions of the PD-NWS template to cover each WFO? TornadoLGS (talk) 00:15, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- I hope not. I'm about to start a discussion over on the Commons Copyright Noticeboard so some administrators can help sort this mess out. I'm going to propose having the PD-NWS template just list what offices are safe and have it state any office not listed here is not safe to use from. NWS Norman and NWS Souix Falls both have direct statements saying images submitted to them are in the public domain, so that proposal may work. I have no idea though. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 00:20, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Ugh. I do not feel like reading out that whole thing. I did check my Commons uploads at it seems I have four such pictures from non-NWS employees on the Commons. Are we talking about having 122 versions of the PD-NWS template to cover each WFO? TornadoLGS (talk) 00:15, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Commons:Deletion requests/File:Damage from the 1968 Charles City tornado just south of the Cedar River looking north.jpg is the full 81,000 byte discussion regarding it. Don't worry about anything yet. It appears NWS offices are disagreeing with each other. My personal guess is the Commons will resort to PD-NWS having specific offices listed that it covers and any office not under it is not covered. I'll let you know when that changes though. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 00:10, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
PD-NWS Violations Update #1
[edit]I am providing members of the WikiProject of Weather along with users who frequently edit weather-related articles an update to the discussions regarding the PD-NWS image copyright template.
For starters, no "formal" administrative-style rules have occurred. All that means is the template is not formally deprecated and is still in use. However, Rlandmann, an administrator on English Wikipedia, has begun an undertaking of reviewing and assessing all images (~1,400) that use the PD-NWS copyright template.
What we know:
- Following email communications, the National Weather Service of Sioux Falls has removed their disclaimer, which has been used for the PD-NWS template for decades. This means, as far as the National Weather Service is concerned, the following statement is no longer valid:
By submitting images, you understand that your image is being released into the public domain. This means that your photo or video may be downloaded, copied, and used by others.
Currently, the PD-NWS template links to an archived version of the disclaimer. However, the live version of the disclaimer no longer contains that phrase. - See this deletion discussion for this point's information. NWS Paducah (1) failed to give attribution to a photographer of a tornado photograph, (2) placed the photo into the public domain without the photographer explicitly giving them permission to do so (i.e. the photo is not actually in the public domain), (3) and told users to acknowledge NWS as the source for information on the webpage. Oh, to note, this photographer is a magistrate (i.e. a judge). So, the idea of automatically trusting images without clear attribution on weather.gov are free-to-use is in question.
- The Wikimedia Commons has a process known as precautionary principle, where if their is significant doubt that an image is free-to-use, it will be deleted. Note, one PD-NWS file has been deleted under the precautionary principle. The closing administrator remarks for the deletion discussion were: "
Per the precautionary principle, there is "significant doubt" about the public domain status of this file (4x keep + nominator, 5x delete), so I will delete it.
" - Several photographs/images using the PD-NWS are currently mid-deletion discussion, all for various reasonings.
- As of this message, 250 PD-NWS images have been checked out of the ~1,400.
- The photograph of the 1974 Xenia tornado (File:Xenia tornado.jpg) was found to not be in the public domain. It is still free-to-use, but under a CC 2.0 license, which requires attribution. From April 2009 to August 2024, Wikipedia/Wikimedia was incorrectly (and by definition, illegally) using the photograph, as it was marked incorrectly as a public domain photograph.
Solutions:
As stated earlier, there is no "formal" rulings, so no "formal" changes have been made. However, there is a general consensus between editors on things which are safe to do:
- Images made directly by NWS employees can be uploaded and used under the new PD-USGov-NWS-employee template (Usage: {{PD-USGov-NWS-employee}} ). This is what a large number of PD-NWS templated images are being switched to.
- Images from the NOAA Damage Assessment Toolkit (DAT) can be uploaded and used under the PD-DAT template (Usage: {{PD-DAT}} ). A large number of images are also being switched to this template.
For now, you are still welcome to upload images under the PD-NWS template. However, if possible it is recommended using the two templates above. I will send out another update when new information is found or new "rulings" have been made. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 03:28, 17 August 2024 (UTC)