User talk:Puredelofan

Welcome!

Hello, Puredelofan, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of your recent edits to the page Magic: The Gathering formats did not conform to Wikipedia's verifiability policy, and may have been removed. Wikipedia articles should refer only to facts and interpretations verified in reliable, reputable print or online sources or in other reliable media. Always provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is likely to be challenged, or it may be removed. Wikipedia also has a related policy against including original research in articles.

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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Again, welcome! Sariel Xilo (talk) 01:18, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, thanks for reaching out. I'm glad to be contributing, and I hope to do so more.

I'm wondering if you wouldn't mind informing me as to why the two sources I included are not considered reliable. In the page you linked it states "context matters," or that the strength of the claim is weighed when considering the strength of the source. While I'll admit the article on TCGPlayer isn't especially scholarly, my claims boil down to "Some people play this format that would otherwise be obscure." Since both the article and the video linked make the same assertion (both with their own sources) I would think the veracity of these two sources would be sufficient.

Thanks again Puredelofan (talk) 01:29, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I couldn't find any editorial standards for either TCGPlayer or that YouTube channel. In general, YouTube is considered a self-published source so is unreliable (see WP:RSSELF). An exception would be videos produced by news outlets or Wizards itself (but you would still need to be more judicious with the primary source). I then removed a chunk of other formats for being poorly sourced (see Talk:Magic: The Gathering formats#Poorly sourced formats); many were either unsourced or cited a questionable primary source (like a blog dedicated to the format but the format isn't mentioned by Wizards or another secondary source). The other thing to consider is notability; if the obscure format has secondary sources, it is probably notable enough to include. The article doesn't need to include every format ever played (see WP:NOTGUIDE). While not aimed at tabletop games, I've found this guide on sourcing to be fairly useful in terms of overlap when considering sources for TTRPG/board games: Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Sources. Another great resource for questions is the Wikipedia:Teahouse. Hope that helps! Sariel Xilo (talk) 02:09, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]