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This page transcludes a subset of the nominations found on the page of all the approved nominations for the "Did you know" section of the Main Page. It only transcludes the nominations filed under dates of the fourth-most recent week. The page is intended to allow editors to easily review recent nominations that may not be displaying correctly on the complete page of approved nominations if that page's contents are causing the page to hit the post-expand include size limit.

Timurnama

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  • ... that by using Timur as the subject of the fourth poem (Timurnama) of his Khamsa (quintet), its author Hatefi implied that the Turco-Mongol conqueror was a second Alexander the Great? Source: "Hatifi wrote a Khamsa (‘Quintet’) in emulation of the Khamsas of Nizami Ganjavi and Amir Khusrau Dihlavi, but replaced the earlier poets’ romances of Alexander/Iskandar with an epic about Timur, thus implicitly identifying Timur as another Alexander." (Melville, p. 1124)
Created by WatkynBassett (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 24 past nominations.

WatkynBassett (talk) 21:10, 23 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good to me! Interesting quote for an interesting piece of literature by an author and era that I'm personally unfamiliar with. That being said, do you have a source for "(it) is often viewed as the most important work by Hatefi"? This doesn't seem to be sourced to me. That's the only thing that stood out to me and I can change this to a green tick when this is addressed. Cheers! BaduFerreira (talk) 05:55, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    • @BaduFerreira: Thank you for this valuable review! I certainly forgot to add a sentence and a reference for this claim in the body of the article; I much appreciate you catching this. I have added the respective sentence and a reference to an open access source. I hope this addresses your concern. Thanks again! WatkynBassett (talk) 06:35, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ka Esi Le Onye Isi Oche

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Created by Vanderwaalforces (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

Vanderwaalforces (talk) 21:14, 25 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: QPQ satisfied and no other issue. Similarities found by Earwig are just title of the song. Reading Beans 10:03, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alfred Biliotti

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Alfred Biliotti, pictured in 1897
Alfred Biliotti, pictured in 1897

Expanded 5x on 22-07-2024.

Source: *Barchard, David (2006). "The Fearless and Self-reliant Servant: The Life and Career of Sir Alfred Biliotti (1833–1915), an Italian Levantine in British Service" (PDF). Studi Miceni ed Egeo-Anatolici. 48: 29–30. ISSN 1126-6651. Retrieved 12 February 2020.
Source: *Barchard, David (2006). "The Fearless and Self-reliant Servant: The Life and Career of Sir Alfred Biliotti (1833–1915), an Italian Levantine in British Service" (PDF). Studi Miceni ed Egeo-Anatolici. 48: 13–14. ISSN 1126-6651. Retrieved 12 February 2020.
  • ALT2: ... that Alfred Biliotti's (pictured) duties as a British diplomatic official included archaeological investigations and investigating war crimes?
Source: *Barchard, David (2006). "The Fearless and Self-reliant Servant: The Life and Career of Sir Alfred Biliotti (1833–1915), an Italian Levantine in British Service" (PDF). Studi Miceni ed Egeo-Anatolici. 48: 13–14. ISSN 1126-6651. Retrieved 12 February 2020. (for excavations); * Rodogno, Davide (2011). Against Massacre: Humanitarian Interventions in the Ottoman Empire, 1815–1914. Princeton: Princeton University Press. p. 214. doi:10.23943/princeton/9780691151335.001.0001. ISBN 9780691151335. (war crimes)
Created by UndercoverClassicist (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 24 past nominations.

UndercoverClassicist T·C 10:33, 22 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • This seems like an interesting article, I'd be happy to take on the DYK review. It's quite a long article so it will take me a bit longer than usual, but I hope to be able to get back with a full review tomorrow. Best, Yakikaki (talk) 20:43, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So, here is the review: the article is substantially more than a 5x expansion, done recently enough. QPQ has been done and the image is properly licensed. The article is within policy. The hooks are fine, supported by inline citations, though the original hook might possibly be a bit misleading since the source merely says that Biliotti negotiated the safe conduct of the besieged, not the surrender, but I guess that is implied. But in any case I would prefer ALT2, which is both the most "hooky" and also a good summary of important parts of Biliotti's career. In any case the article is good to go for DYK. It is a high quality, fascinating read, I'm happy to be able to promote content like this to a main page appearance. If you haven't thought of it already, I would highly recommend you nominate it for GA status. Yakikaki (talk) 18:43, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your review and your kind words. On the first hook, it says that Biliotti negotiated the end of the siege -- that is correct, as you can hardly besiege a town with nobody in it. UndercoverClassicist T·C 20:39, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Los Angeles League of Musicians

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Created by Kimikel (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.

Kimikel (talk) 00:23, 22 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Page is new enough (created on July 21) and long enough. QPQ has been done. Article is presentable. Both hooks have a good source. I prefer the first hook. Good to go in my book. StewdioMACK (talk) 05:01, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

William Pope (priest)

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Moved to mainspace by Storye book (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 109 past nominations.

Storye book (talk) 09:34, 25 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Substantial detailed interesting bio, on plenty of good sources, offline souces accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. The hook works for me. In the article, I wonder if his brother needs a title, - we are talking young age not what he'd achieve later. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:56, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the review. You are right, and I have defrocked Father John. He became a Jesuit priest and was never Father John, and he was almost certainly renamed Father Xavier in the tradition of Jesuits (but can't prove that yet). Storye book (talk) 08:20, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Motokare Retry

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  • ... that the spin-off episode of the live-action adaptation of Motokare Retry was written to portray "conversations between men" and "male friendship"?
Created by Lullabying (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 53 past nominations.

lullabying (talk) 20:56, 25 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article is new and long enough, QPQ is met, the hook citation seems to check out based on machine translation, and the hook itself is strong without any issues, and as a hook for a fictional work possesses basis in the real world creative process. In lack of the ability to check the sources in detail, everything seems to check out and there's no obvious issues. The article is presentable; info on reception is lacking on reception but that's common for manga articles. I'll quibble that the audio drama voices and movie comic information would ideally find a more concrete source than a tweet, but they're basic enough facts that I don't think that's a major issue. Passing this, happy to see some shoujo at DYK. LittleLazyLass (Talk | Contributions) 07:34, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Poll (parrot)

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Created by Di (they-them) (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 16 past nominations.

Di (they-them) (talk) 02:33, 26 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • - Age and length are fine. No copvio/plagiarism concerns (Earwig = 26% but it's a quote). The hook is entertaining, and reliably sourced. I think it's good to go. KJP1 (talk) 05:55, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Metropolitan Club (New York City)

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The Metropolitan Club
The Metropolitan Club
  • ... that New York City's Metropolitan Club once had a busybodies' club? Source: Porzelt, Paul (1982). The Metropolitan Club of New York. Rizzoli. p. 152.
    • ALT1: ... that when New York City's Metropolitan Club was established, there was another Metropolitan Club two city blocks away? Source: Porzelt, Paul (1982). The Metropolitan Club of New York. Rizzoli. pp. 22-23.
    • ALT2: ... that one prospective member of New York City's Metropolitan Club was rejected due to silver coins? Source: "Why Wolcott Was Blackballed: the Metropolitan Club of New York Objected to His Friendliness to Silver". The Washington Post. May 8, 1894. p. 5.
    • ALT3: ... that New York City's Metropolitan Club, once known as the "Millionaires' Club", almost sold its clubhouse due to financial troubles? Source: Dow, Jim (December 14, 2018). "Inside New York's most exclusive private clubs". Financial Times; "Metropolitan Club Members Stave Off Sale: 150 of 750 Agree to Save $2,000,000 5th Avenue Home With Own Funds". New York Herald Tribune. March 18, 1945. p. 22.
    • ALT4: ... that New York City's Metropolitan Club was once called "a splendid palace, fit for kings of industry"? Source: Sherman, Beth (March 22, 1990). "Walking White's New York". Newsday.
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Frutiger Aero
    • Comment: More hooks later
5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 664 past nominations.

Epicgenius (talk) 03:41, 23 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • The article is eligible, and looks to be in good shape. I like ALT1; it checks out in the source and is cited in-article. I think the word "city" in "city blocks" is unnecessary, but that's up to taste. QPQ checks out. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 05:30, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sun Chen (breakdancer)

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  • ... that Olympic breakdancer Sun Chen is nicknamed "Quake" for being born the day of a deadly earthquake?
  • Source: United Daily News ("921大地震當晚出生 ... 連英文名字都叫做「Quake」[Born on the night of the 921 earthquake ... His English name is called "Quake"]
Created by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 221 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:12, 31 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Nominated seven days after mainspace move and length 1572 B. One source runs 21.3% at Earwig, but that's a quote. BeanieFan11, you may wanna update the article since the Games are over, but take this as optional for DYK purposes. Otherwise, the article looks good. ミラP@Miraclepine 04:29, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maxim Berezovsky

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Improved to Good Article status by Amitchell125 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 2113 past nominations.

Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:12, 31 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • The hook is honestly not very interesting (it was not unusual at all for European artists to study elsewhere in Europe at the time, or even now). Suggesting a preliminary alternate below instead:
ALT1 ... that Maxim Berezovsky is thought to have been the first Russian or Ukrainian to write an opera or a violin sonata?
The article has several interesting facts about him, which can probably be used for hooks too. I'll come back in a bit to propose additional suggestions. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:43, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Here are some more possible ALTs:
ALT2 ... that after composer Maxim Berezovsky's death, Catherine the Great secretly ordered the papers in his rooms to be burnt?
ALT3 ... that a symphony by 18th-century composer Maxim Berezovsky was only performed publicly for the first time in 2003? (this is not currently directly stated in the article, I'm only proposing this wording for brainstorming purposes)
ALT4 ... that according to conductor Kirill Karabits, both Russians and Ukrainians have equal claims to the legacy of composer Maxim Berezovsky?
ALT5 ... that despite being considered one of the "Golden Three" of 18th-century Ukrainian classical music, much of Maxim Berezovsky's life is unknown for certain?
ALT5a ... that despite being considered one of the "Golden Three" of 18th-century Ukrainian classical music, little is known for certain about Maxim Berezovsky?
ALT6 ... that Maxim Berezovsky is considered one of the "Golden Three" of 18th-century Ukrainian classical music? (currently only mentioned, uncited, in the lede and thus would require a source)
I'm not going to review the article, but I've read it and I've noticed that the tone of the article, particularly in the Works section, may be too laudatory in Wikipedia's voice, and that might need to be resolved. Asking from help from either 4meter4 or CurryTime7-24 in copyediting the article and perhaps fixing the article concerns, as well as further suggestions on hooks. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:24, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the hook suggestions. Do you realise that the article (which is not by me) just passed a GA review? ... was written by an editor who brought composers to FA status, for example Artemy Vedel? I nominated because the author would not do DYK (which I can understand). I was dead tired when I nominated, so grabbed the first idea that hit me as unusual to not miss the deadline. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:07, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I like ALT1 best of the suggestions, but think it should be "and" between symphony and violin sonata, because it's thought for both.
ALT1a ... that Maxim Berezovsky is thought to have been the first Russian or Ukrainian to write an opera and a violin sonata?
I like that it clearly speaks of the claim "Russian or Ukrainian" and still gives an idea about his music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:16, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Narutolovehinata5: Thanks for inviting me to suggest an ALT for this DYK nom. However, since I'm neither the one who improved the article to GA nor the nominator, I think it would be poor form for me to step on the toes of other editors. If this nomination continues to be at an impasse, though, please let me know and I'll do what I can. What I will mention is that the bit of copy-editing I did revealed some issues that ought to be resolved, especially in a GA article. A few parts raise concerns about WP:SYNTH, for example. An early instance occurs at the the conclusion of the first paragraph in the "Biography" section. Putting aside for the moment that the phrase "victim of the regime" is loaded terminology that should be avoided per MOS:LABEL, WP:IMPARTIAL, and WP:EPSTYLE, I discovered upon reading the cited source (which doesn't include the page number; it's 25) that it doesn't confirm the statement in the article. (Full disclosure: I'm proficient in Russian, but know zero Ukrainian. Even so, the languages are similar enough that I can generally grasp the meaning of Ukrainian; the difference to my eyes and ears being comparable to that between Spanish and Portuguese.) According to Shumilina, surviving evidence "disproves the idea that Berezovsky's lack of work and financial difficulties caused his suicide". She reaffirms this in the final paragraph of page 27: "An untimely death (not the result of suicide!) interrupted his creative work" ("Передчасна смерть (не внаслідок самогубства!) перервала його творчість"). —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 22:11, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for looking into this. Perhaps place the concerns on the article talk, because I am not sur that Amitchell is watching here. - Could you perhaps bring your knowledge of Russian also to Template:Did you know nominations/Marina Kondratyeva? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:25, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@CurryTime7-24 and Jaguarnik: Both of you have made edits to the article: are there no further remaining issues? Courtesy ping as well to the second GA reviewer Shushugah if there are also other issues. Given that the article probably needs more copyediting regarding the language used (i.e. to meet WP:IMPARTIAL), also asking Launchballer if they're okay with helping out. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:20, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've looked at the article again and fixed anything that I thought needed fixing. I don't think there's anything left to do other than possibly copyedit; I did my best to copyedit as the GA reviewer but I recognize that I missed some parts.Jaguarnik (talk) 03:33, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5:: I'm bringing up the following because you asked, but let me state once more that I won't be contributing heavily to this article, aside from minor touch-ups. Among other things, there is a bit of a slant to the article. The "Sacred music" sub-section, for example, potentially misleads the reader into thinking that Berezovsky was chiefly or even solely a phenomenon of Ukrainian culture. His influence on Russian music, which for a time must've also been considerable, is never discussed. (It's worth noting that in Berezovsky's time, Russian and Ukrainian cultures were more blurrier and mutually porous concepts than today.) Some aspects are left unexplained as well. Because losses of manuscripts and tangible evidence of his life are recurring themes in this article, it would seem to imply that at some point Berezovsky's legacy experienced a decline into obscurity; a 1947 article by Vera Vasina-Grossman [ru] in Sovyetskaya Muzyka confirms this to be the case. (This is important, because the magazine was not only the preeminent musical academic journal in the RSFSR, but in all of the USSR, including the Ukrainian SSR.) After that, Berezovsky's name is mentioned a few more times in the magazine. In the 1960s, his life and work came to be recognized outside of musicological circles thanks to a book about the composer Josef Mysliveček by Marietta Shaginyan. She mentioned Berezovsky therein, lamenting the fact that his music was widely unknown at the time. This seems to have been the catalyst for a modest revival. By the 1980s, articles and studies on his music increase significantly; there were some first recordings and performances as well. None of this reception history is mentioned in this article. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 04:24, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@CurryTime7-24: Thanks for the direction to Vasina-Grossman's article; I've found it and I will add it as a source into the article. I'll also look to see if I can't find something more recent analyzing his contributions to Russian music.Jaguarnik (talk) 04:56, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
On second thought, if I found the correct article (Забытая повесть о русском музыканте, Forgotten Tale of a Russian Musician, Vera Vasina-Grossman, 1947]) then this article is almost useless for analyzing Berezovsky's legacy in Russia, because the great majority of it is devoted to analyzing a fictional tale of his life. Still, I'll try to find something about his contributions to Russian music. Either way, I don't think adding his influence in Russian music is necessary for the DYK hooks, but it is something that future editors can work on.Jaguarnik (talk) 05:08, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@CurryTime7-24: Given the apparent incompleteness of the article and other issues that were raised, would a GAR be needed, or that shouldn't be necessary and any remaining issues should be surmountable? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:42, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: I don't think these issues call the GA itself into question. I think the reviewer did a great job and they also helped to further polish up this article. It was a bit of a mess last year; the work done to get it to this point has been commendable. @Jaguarnik: That is the article, yes, but my point was that it acknowledged Berezovsky's decline into obscurity, which is not mentioned by this article. Rumors and all, it may have been the first serious article on Berezovsky in decades, if not longer; it seems to have served as a starting point for the revival of interest in his music. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 01:13, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I see now, my apologies if I was rude. The article was helpful in that it led me to find another article in Sovetskaya Muzyka that also wrote about Berezovsky, along with an article from 2013; I added those into the article.Jaguarnik (talk) 07:05, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just to say I am happy to look at this, however I did promise @Mehedi Abedin: a copyedit of Birthday of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman and I should really do that first.--Launchballer 09:51, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm guessing most of the neutrality issues were fixed before I got here, however there is one phrase beginning "He is considered" within the Sacred music section that needs attribution.--Launchballer 13:11, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed Jaguarnik (talk) 05:44, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My concerns have been resolved.--Launchballer 12:25, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation

QPQ: No - Not done
Overall: ALT0 is, as noted, not interesting. Given the current brouhaha around "first" hooks, I think it best to eschew ALT1/ALT1a (the latter is also ungrammatical) because the provided citation is not ultra-reliable. The term "Golden Three" is not used in the article, so ALT5/ALT5a/ALT6 are out. I am not comfortable with ALT4, especially in the current political context, because I would like to see that statement come from a historian, not a conductor. That leaves ALT2 and ALT3, both of which are approved. However, a QPQ has not been provided after nearly two weeks, so that needs to be urgently addressed. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:22, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Liebfrauenkirche, Zurich. - I found it extremely interesting that this person came from Saint Petersburg to study in Italy. I knew of many Germans but not from further east and north. Please excuse my ignorance, you who seem to know that there were many. - I heard his Symphony, and it sounds quite Italian to me, - feel free to listen]. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:04, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In response to the above, the "Golden Three" fact was previously in the article but has since been deleted; I'm not sure when and why. When I proposed ALT3, the article wording did not directly reflect or support it, so if ALT3 is to be used, that needs to be clarified in the article. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:33, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AirshipJungleman29: Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:34, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, ALT3 is in the article. A quick peruse of List of Russian composers, Gerda Arendt, shows Timofiy Bilohradsky who studied in Dresden, Dmitry Bortniansky who studied in Italy, Catterino Cavos who came from Italy to Russia, and Yevstigney Fomin who studied in Bologna—all 18th century composers with surnames from the first six letters of the alphabet. QPQ done, so all approved. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 01:45, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AirshipJungleman29: I mean, the article does not explicitly state that the symphony was never performed before 2003, only implied. The article wording seems ambiguous to me: it says that the symphony was written in the 18th century but makes no explicit mention if it was performed back then or not. So at best, the accuracy of ALT3 based on the current wording is ambiguous. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:56, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Golden three" wasn't deleted, rather rephrased since I couldn't find anything actually calling the trio "Golden Three"; they were consistently called "the three great Ukrainian composers of the 18th century"; hooks can be rephrased to reflect this. Jaguarnik (talk) 02:16, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Airship, repeating: please excuse my ignorance. I had heard the name of one of the three, and didn't know he studied in Italy, thank you for the education! Our general readers will of course be better informed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:19, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see how "was first performed" is ambiguous? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 10:45, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AirshipJungleman29: It wasn't the wording per-se that was ambiguous. Rather, it's ambiguous if it had ever been performed before 2003, as in if it had been performed during Berezovsky's lifetime, or if it was a case of the symphony was written but never performed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:10, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Again, "was first performed" seems perfectly clear to me. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:24, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Galena Schoolhouse

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Created by TCMemoire (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 414 past nominations.

SL93 (talk) 22:20, 24 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: @TCMemoire and SL93: Nice work. Optionally, I would include an inflation figure in the article, since $1 in 1983 is worth about $3.21 today (which is still a very good bargain though). However, that inflation figure isn't required for this nomination to be approved. Epicgenius (talk) 16:04, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Epicgenius: Thanks for the suggestion. I was today years old when I learned we have inflation templates, so I've added one per your suggestion. Thanks for the extremely quick turnaround and to @SL93: for seeing the value of this hook when I didn't give it a thought! – TCMemoire 20:24, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was also today years old when I found out about the inflation templates. SL93 (talk) 21:51, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Henrik Johan Nauckhoff

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Created by Yakikaki (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 138 past nominations.

Yakikaki (talk) 20:47, 24 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi Yakikaki, review follows: article created 24 July and is of good length; article is well written and cited inline throughout to what look to be reliable sources (mostly older Swedish language books); I checked against the only English language source (Benson 1926) and found no issue with overly close paraphrasing (though it is a PD source anyway), AGF on the others and noting that the Earwig search tool is down; hook fact is interesting, stated in article and checks out to sources; a QPQ is underway. Looks fine to me - Dumelow (talk) 06:50, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Dumelow for the review! For the record I have now also done the QPQ. Yakikaki (talk) 18:45, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Hooded Man

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The Hooded Man being tortured at Abu Ghraib prison by U.S military
The Hooded Man being tortured at Abu Ghraib prison by U.S military
Created by Mhhossein (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 63 past nominations.

Mhhossein talk 07:20, 24 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Pic is a little pixel-y but looks okay at this resolution. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:12, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AirshipJungleman29: Thanks for the note. They just slipped through my eyes. I think the issue is resolved now. --Mhhossein talk 07:13, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What you have done is replace a few words with synonyms—in other words, there is no improvement in terms of WP:CLOP. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 09:19, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AirshipJungleman29: That should be fine now. --Mhhossein talk 06:34, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Hawkeye7: Thanks for your review. AirshipJungleman29 is not responding to my ping. Can you please re-evaluate the status of the article for DYK? --Mhhossein talk 13:00, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I think it is just about acceptable now; it does not need re-evaluation, and is waiting to be promoted. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:28, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just got back from Poland. Earwig score of 20.6% looks fine. Good to go. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:32, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Joseva Talacolo

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  • Source: The Fiji Times ("Joseva Talacolo has only one reason for playing rugby – his family. Growing up in the interior of Namosi at his Naqarawai Village, Talacolo saw the hardships his parents endured and decided to change his fate.")
Created by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 225 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:00, 2 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Jerzy Artysz

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  • ... that Jerzy Artysz, who performed title roles from Orfeo to King Roger at the Grand Theatre in Warsaw, created the role of Josep Soler's Oedipus at the Liceu in Barcelona in 1986? Source: [1]
    • Reviewed: Józef Ignacy Kraszewski
    • Comment: appeared on the Main page as RD, but still eligible. I'm open to hooks, but this tries to inform that sang title roles (rare for a baritone!), had a repertoire from Monteverdi to contemporary, portrayed mythical figures and kings, had a close connection not only to the Polish most important stage but also to the Spanish second most important stage. - Had no article, imagine!
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 2112 past nominations.

Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:45, 29 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • OK, sorry, I've moved them downstairs. Of course "musician" is rubbish, but it's for the philistines, who will otherwise delete stuff. OK, here they are corrected, in case this nom gets a reviewer who is cool with opera.
I am assuming it is not a COI to review a submission that reviews mine, it is pure random - this was just the only current unreviewed hook with adjective Polish, which is what I search for in the first place. Anyway, date, size, refs, hook, neutrality, copyvio spotcheck, all GTG. I have no preference with regards to ALTs, they are all mildly interseting at the same level (IMHO). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:30, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Schlag den Henssler

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  • ... that the short-lived German game show Schlag den Henssler became internationally popular after a clip of a soft pretzel being cut perfectly in half circulated on social media?
Created by Johnson524 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 14 past nominations.

Johnson524 05:18, 26 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • I would say that this article meets the DYK criteria. New enough, long enough, QPQ done, no copyright issues, cited in article. I also should say that commas should be used instead of full stops, so instead of €500.000, it should be €500,000. They do that in Germany and much of Europe, but not so much for English. JuniperChill (talk) 22:54, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@JuniperChill: No in English we use commas for all large numbers and never full stops too, I thought for some reason that's what was done in Europe and didn't double check lol 😅 Thank you again! Johnson524 02:20, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I must have mistakenly put 'not so much for English' rather than 'not for English'. I have striked out my extra words JuniperChill (talk) 09:22, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Józef Ignacy Kraszewski

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Józef Ignacy Kraszewski
Józef Ignacy Kraszewski
Improved to Good Article status by Piotrus (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 515 past nominations.

Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:42, 26 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Interesting quality biography, on fine sources, offline and foreign sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. I approve the hook but am not happy with saying only something about quantity. I am open to something less repetitive (200 novels seem impressive enough) which might include "historic" novels, or a title, or that he also illustrated, or that he wrote series in collaboration, or some biographical aspect. Your choice. In the article, I'd appreciate less sandwiching of text between images. His first name is used The image of him is licensed (and if taken we could drop 19th-century as given by how it looks) but it is rather pale. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:22, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Gerda Arendt: Could you suggest hooks directly? As ALT1, 2, etc.? I like your ideas but I am not sure I fully grasp it. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:53, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I could but not today, and then you'd need another reviewer. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:06, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Morgan Library & Museum

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The Morgan Library & Museum
The Morgan Library & Museum
  • ... that during the Panic of 1907, the presidents of New York City's banks and trust companies were locked in the Pierpont Morgan Library? Source: Roth, Leland (1983). McKim, Mead & White, Architects. Harper & Row. p. 410.
Improved to Good Article status by Epicgenius (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 665 past nominations.

Epicgenius (talk) 15:11, 25 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Substantial exquisite article about an exquisite place, on 360 (!) sources, offline sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. A GA on its way to FA, I assume. Of the present hooks, I prefer ALT1, but none is impossible. I'd just quote "I want a gem." ;) - The image is licensed and shows a gem, - please let's have it, and the hook doesn't matter. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:29, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Grant Nel

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Grant Nel
Grant Nel
  • ... that when he was nine, Grant Nel (pictured) switched from gymnastics to diving as a result of breaking both of his hands?
"Nel switched from gymnastics to diving when he was nine, after he broke both his hands"
Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/av/commonwealth-games/28583313 "Australian diver Grant Nel scores zero after slipping on the springboard and landing in the pool flat on his back in the men's 3m preliminary round"
  • Reviewed: [[]]
5x expanded by 1ctinus (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

-1ctinus📝🗨 19:37, 26 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Great expansion! Article is long enough to run. Earwig gives no copyright other than the names of events themselves so that's good. I like ALT0, which is confirmed by the source. ALT1 might be seen as too "negative" for a BLP by some, so I'd rather have ALT0 promoted. QPQ not needed. Styyx (talk) 08:57, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Zhong Jingwen

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  • Source: Liu, Xiaochan (2022). "A Centennial Overview of Folklore Studies at Sun Yat-sen University". Western Folklore. 81 (2/3): 163–176. https://www.jstor.org/stable/27152280. p. 164.
Zhang, Juwen (2018). "Folklore in China: Past, Present, and Challenges". Humanities. 7 (2). doi:10.3390/h7020035. ISSN 2076-0787. https://www.mdpi.com/2076-0787/7/2/35
Created by Generalissima (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 65 past nominations.

Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 02:13, 26 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • QPQ is done, article is new enough and long enough, earwig returns a 0.0% chance of copying, and the hook is interesting. I don't have access to JSTOR right now so I will assume good faith on the sources. Seems good to me! Di (they-them) (talk) 02:29, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Neary's

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Created by Voorts (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.

voorts (talk/contributions) 23:26, 28 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

2024 Suzhou knife attack

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  • ... that a knife attack in Suzhou, China, led to the deletion of hundreds of anti-Japan posts from social media platforms?
Moved to mainspace by Remsense (talk) and Zinderboff (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Zinderboff(talk) 07:57, 30 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Regarding the timing: I think this article is new enough as it was moved into the main space on 27 July and sent to DYK on 30 July. Thanks Zinderboff for notifying us about the situation. Article is long enough. It takes an international array of sources and uses a neutral tone. It is presentable. The hook is cited–considering the relevance of the reporting media, it seems that ALT1 (South China Morning Post) and ALT2 (The Guardian) are better sources than Business Insider for reporting this incident. Hooks are admissable. QPQ not needed. and please accept my appreciations for writing on this matter. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 18:48, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @The Lonely Pather Sorry for not responding earlier. After the DYK get's reviewed, do I get informed when it reaches the front page, or are there any specific requirements? Zinderboff(talk) 18:35, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ai Uta

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  • ... that on a survey conducted by Oricon on 2007, Ai Uta was making girls' heart fluttered?
Created by Miminity (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 05:18, 28 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: No - n
  • Other problems: No - Both ALTs seems promotional and may need reworking for grammar.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Wow! "Ai Uta" is such a classic hit, so it's nice seeing an article for it. Article was nominated for DYK within the first 7 days of creation. It has over 1,500 words in prose. Citations are properly sourced. Earig picked up an unlikely copyright violation of 2.9%. Nominator has less than 5 nominations, so a QPQ is not needed at this time. Some suggestions outside of DYK nomination is to follow MOS:JAPAN#Titles of media, as I see some stylized capitalization (such as Greeeen's name). The ALT looks like it can be worked into something interesting, but the way it's currently worded feels a bit promotional. How about:

ALT0a: ... that, in a 2007 survey done by Oricon, Japanese girls found the song "Ai Uta" by the band Greeeen to be a perfect love song for the autumn?"
ALT2: ... that the record label for the Japanese band Greeeen specifically marketed the song "Ai Uta" to teenagers? lullabying (talk) 09:29, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jajaira Gonzalez

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  • Source: "'This is like Lazarus coming back from the dead,' USA Boxing head coach Billy Walsh said with a laugh." [3]
  • ALT1: ... that Jajaira Gonzalez, 2024 U.S. Olympian in women's lightweight boxing, decided to pick up the sport again after seeing her ex-teammates' posts on social media? Source: 'Jajaira Gonzalez was scrolling through social media at her job in a Virginia kickboxing gym about three years ago when she spotted some of her former USA Boxing teammates traveling the world, competing for medals and generally living their best lives. The Instagram post hit Gonzalez like a stiff jab, snapping her out of a quarter-life slumber. “They were in the water in Spain, and I was suddenly like, ‘I should be there,’” she said.' [4]
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: Second DYK nom I've done, still new, so I apologize for any mistakes.
5x expanded by SunTunnels (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

SunTunnels (talk) 19:51, 28 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Looks good. Nice work. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:20, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Durkee Fire

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A Bureau of Land Management vehicle at the Durkee Fire on July 21
A Bureau of Land Management vehicle at the Durkee Fire on July 21
Created by Bsoyka (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 14 past nominations.

Bsoyka (t • c • g) 04:23, 27 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: Yes
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: I googled how common fires caused by lightning strikes are and according to this source, they are responsible for 10% of global forest fires which makes it a bit less interesting. Sahaib (talk) 14:02, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Blair Colony

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  • ... that while recruiting for the Blair Colony, Betty Blair reportedly convinced potential settlers there were no flies in South Dakota?
Moved to mainspace by TCMemoire (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 13 past nominations.

– TCMemoire 18:13, 29 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good. Nice work. Prefer ALT0. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:30, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nicole Chang-Leng

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  • Source: Joubert-Lawen, Rita (2022-11-04). Bonnelame, Betymie (ed.). "Seychelles' first female international flight captain passes away". Seychelles News Agency. Retrieved 2024-06-24."The country will remember her as a true daughter of our soil. May her family be given courage as they go through this difficult period. May her soul rest in peace," said Ramkalawan...Chang-Leng became the first woman to command an all-female flight crew as commander on a Seychelles-Mauritius flight on August 23, 2007
  • "Passengers hail first all-female crew flight". Seychelles Nation. 2007-07-24. Retrieved 2024-07-30.
  • ALT1: ... that Nicole Chang-Leng, described as "daughter" of the Seychelles by Wavel Ramkalawan, commanded an all-woman crew?
  • ALT2: ... that Nicole Chang-Leng, described as "daughter" of the Seychelles by its president, commanded an all-woman crew?
  • Reviewed: [[]]
  • Comment: I provided in-text attribution for the "daughter of our soil" part within the article; I'm not sure if I need to provide it within the hook as well. I provided two alternative hooks just in case, but Seychellois presidents describing Chang-Leng as important is hardly controversial.
Moved to mainspace by GreenLipstickLesbian (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 04:25, 31 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Looks good. Nice work. I think Launchballer's suggestion is best given his mentioned concern, though if you prefer that the hook mention the all-woman crew, let me know. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:44, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Marmelada de Santa Luzia

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Created by BaduFerreira (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

BaduFerreira (talk) 04:33, 5 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • New enough and long enough. DYK hook fact checks out (and yes, I can read Portuguese... Thanks, Spanish!). Side comment to BaduFerreira: I think intangible rather than immaterial cultural heritage would be a better translation and in line with the term in English. We have Intangible cultural heritage as an article, but it does not line up one-to-one with ptwiki because they split the concept and UNESCO's list into separate pages (thus the separate Wikidata items). Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:54, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Hi Sammi, Thank you for the review! I understand where you're coming from with this comment, but it seems to me that a Patrimônio Cultural Imaterial  [pt] in Brazil is distinct from the UNESCO Intangible cultural heritage so linking to that article would be a little disingenuous. I'm hoping to find enough sources to get an article started for this concept to reduce future confusion between them, but I do appreciate your feedback. For that reason, I prefer to keep it as immaterial for the time being. Thank you again! BaduFerreira (talk) 05:14, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Tel Aviv drone attack

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Created by Mhhossein (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 65 past nominations.

Mhhossein talk 06:59, 28 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Not reviewing, but proposing ALT1 above with different wording. Bsoyka (t • c • g) 17:38, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Aren't we supposed to have upbeat hooks? 2603:7000:2101:AA00:54B:36AA:A773:7A69 (talk) 21:43, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not necessarily, just interesting hooks. Even so, I'm not sure how one could make an "upbeat" hook out of a military drone attack. Bsoyka (t • c • g) 21:52, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My point exactly. But I recall editors telling me we could not have hooks that are like this at DYK, because they were downbeat. The same reason we don't see hooks of interesting murders.2603:7000:2101:AA00:54B:36AA:A773:7A69 (talk) 22:00, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see that in our guidelines — take a look at WP:DYKINT. I've personally written about a murder and it was added to DYK. Perhaps you're thinking of our rule that hooks must use a neutral point of view? In this case, the hook may seem "downbeat" but it's very neutral, stating simple facts. On the other hand, "... that a terrible drone attack terrorized Tel Aviv?" would be unacceptable for its lack of neutrality. Bsoyka (t • c • g) 22:09, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No -- I'm not thinking about NPOV. Perhaps one of the wise sages at DYK knows what I am referring to. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:54B:36AA:A773:7A69 (talk) 23:55, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation

QPQ: No - Not done
Overall: Earwig gives " Violation Unlikely, 15.3%". No major problems that I can see. Mhhossein has not yet completed QPQ. VR (Please ping on reply) 01:01, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review VR. QPQ is done now. --Mhhossein talk 13:04, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Vice regent: Is this approved? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 04:16, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Z1720: I didn't get Mhhossein's ping. Yes, it is approved now.VR (Please ping on reply) 04:23, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Vice regent: usually there should be a green tick mark by using {{subst:DYKyes}}, showing the final approval. You did not notice my previous ping due to improper ping by me, sorry. --Mhhossein talk 13:58, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

.VR (Please ping on reply) 14:16, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Three Girls Revitalizing Asia

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Created by Microplastic Consumer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Microplastic Consumer (talk) 23:58, 28 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Article was nominated within 7 days of creation. Unfortunately, it currently sits at 1,354 characters in prose and seems to be a stub, with all information crammed into the lead, so therefore it is too short to qualify for DYK. Earwig picked up an unlikely copyright violation of 1%. Nominator has less than 5 nominations so a QPQ is not required at this time. Should this pass, for a different variation of ALT1, I suggest, ALT2: "... that Three Girls Revitalizing Asia is credited with assigning a girl group member a representative role seen in modern Japanese idol culture?" lullabying (talk) 05:47, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Lullabying: I just checked the article with DYKcheck and it comes in at 1630 characters.--Launchballer 19:10, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! I will change this to maybe. The article still seems like a stub. Is it possible it can be formatted so it can properly have a lead and a body? lullabying (talk) 20:31, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ask @Microplastic Consumer:.--Launchballer 21:40, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It 100% can, I just don't have the time to do that at the moment, so please bare with me. Microplastic Consumer (talk) 22:10, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@lullabying It's done! Microplastic Consumer (talk) 03:33, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    • Looks good! Just to make it more consistent with a lot of idol group articles, I think it would be nice if "Koa sannin musume" was renamed "Career" and the members list was moved below it. Also, Saiko Okuyama's name needs to be in Western order per MOS:JAPAN as she was born after the Meiji Restoration. lullabying (talk) 01:33, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've taken your suggestions and it should look better, after deciding what blurb to use it should be ready. Microplastic Consumer (talk) 02:20, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Christopher Columbus (Zador)

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  • ... that the opera Christopher Columbus was written by its Jewish composer in 1939 while he was sailing across the Atlantic Ocean to flee persecution from Nazi Germany?
Created by 4meter4 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 90 past nominations.

4meter4 (talk) 15:59, 28 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: @4meter4: I would support the special occasion request, but per WP:DYKSO those generally can't be made more than 6 weeks out without an exception at WT:DYK. Otherwise, all looks good to me (AGF on the book source). Bsoyka (t • c • g) 17:13, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Taco Cat Goat Cheese Pizza

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Created by Bsoyka (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 18 past nominations.

Bsoyka (t • c • g) 00:51, 28 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Maximiliane Brentano

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Brentano throws a snowball at Goethe
Brentano throws a snowball at Goethe
  • ... that Goethe used his unrequited love to Maximiliane Brentano (both pictured) as inspiration for his novel The Sorrows of Young Werther? Source: [5]: "verliebte sich Goethe sofort in ihre Tochter", "In den „Leiden des jungen Werthers“ verschmolz er Maximiliane mit einer anderen frühen Geliebten zur dunkeläugigen, kinderlieben und charakterschönen „Lotte“."
Moved to mainspace by Kusma (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 55 past nominations.

—Kusma (talk) 10:36, 28 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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