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[edit]Should say a little about the characters. --Maoririder 18:19, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
Stereotypes
[edit]What about the stereotyping (e.g. the parrot spouting Spanish, the caricatured faces, etc). I Googled around but could only find polished press releases and promotional material claiming that it avoids stereotypes. -71.2.177.157 15:38, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
- They're not specifically targeting any one cultural group, caricaturing the faces. Its simply a cartoon. Cartoons use cartoon images. Done. -- user:zanimum
- Though it's a relief to see a PBS show that doesn't try too hard to be politically correct, still I'm glad they changed the lyrics of the theme song, which probably annoyed with its banality as much as its insensitivity to contemporary gender politics. Kaweah 02:12, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
- They're really Hispanic stereotypes. I know a Hispanic girl, and she doesn't act like her only identity is being Hispanic. KinseyLOL 08:22, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
- Neither do the characters. This is really "I Love Lucy" with more Spanish and moral messages... for kids. 70.108.129.78 22:01, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
- Though it's a relief to see a PBS show that doesn't try too hard to be politically correct (Quote from Kaweah) - Doesn't try too hard to be politically correct??? So having characters of every skin color and even throwing in a disabled kid with one arm doesn't make it politically correct??? What planet are you from??? :) Thor Malmjursson 12:39, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- in my opinion , i dont consider in stereotypical. They are just a family proud of their heritage, such as the grandmother. I think the show tries to teach children to accept people for their personality, and not their culture.--Klaus Baude 123 16:20, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
- Though it's a relief to see a PBS show that doesn't try too hard to be politically correct (Quote from Kaweah) - Doesn't try too hard to be politically correct??? So having characters of every skin color and even throwing in a disabled kid with one arm doesn't make it politically correct??? What planet are you from??? :) Thor Malmjursson 12:39, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- Neither do the characters. This is really "I Love Lucy" with more Spanish and moral messages... for kids. 70.108.129.78 22:01, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
- They're really Hispanic stereotypes. I know a Hispanic girl, and she doesn't act like her only identity is being Hispanic. KinseyLOL 08:22, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
- Though it's a relief to see a PBS show that doesn't try too hard to be politically correct, still I'm glad they changed the lyrics of the theme song, which probably annoyed with its banality as much as its insensitivity to contemporary gender politics. Kaweah 02:12, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
Thor: I apologize for the ironic aside. Apparently the irony in my statement was not easy to detect. My main point should have been easy enough for you to discern, however: I'm glad they changed the banal lyrics, which also happened to be socially insensitive. :-) Kaweah (talk) 14:31, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
KinseyLOL I don’t see anything wrong with someone being proud of their culture. Have some respect. And your Hispanic friend’s identity IS Hispanic. Just because she may not speak Spanish when she’s around you doesn’t change her identity. I’m African American and I’m proud of my culture and I don’t hesitate showing it off because African American is my identity and no one can take it from me or make me ashamed of it. Ssmithj749 1:49, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
Thor Malmjursson I think it’s good that they made a show about kids of different ethnicities hanging out together and I like that one of them has a disability. When kids watch this show, they will learn to appreciate people for who they are and not what they look like and that’s good because there are many kids who get bullied for being a different race or for having a disability. I’m pretty sure if this show only had white people in it there would be way more complaints. Ssmithj749 2:10, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
Characters
[edit]Miguel is the older brother of Maya, and he likes soccer. Miguel is Maya's twin This would be awfully tough to do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Calliaume (talk • contribs) 11:55, May 14, 2006 (UTC)
- No, one twin is still born before the other, albeit generally only by a few minutes. Please sign your comments by adding four tildes (~~~~) to the end of your comments. Emmett5 00:33, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
- I don't know if anybody has seen this episode (and yes,I often watch this show.It's funny sometimes and I'm Latina,so even though they tend to be a bit heavy on the cultural side,it's nice to see) whhen Andy moved into the neighborhood,Maya and Miguel introduced themselves.They mentioned that their mom was Mexican and their dad was from Puerto Rico.So in the characters' box,shouldn't it be mentioned that they are Mexican and Puerto Rican??Just wondering.... --Lina —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.78.39.51 (talk) 16:07, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
episodes
[edit]Is there really a need for independent episode summaries for this show? I don't see any claim of cultural impact or popularity that would warrant so many (potential) articles splitting off from here.. -- nae'blis 19:01, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Symbolism
[edit]I noticed that in the very first part of the theme animation (at the very beginning of the show) that Maya and Miguel jump out of a purple-blue symbol that is nearly the same as the Yin-Yang symbol. Should this be considered intentional symbolism, or is it inconsequential? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.119.69.128 (talk • contribs) 17:10, August 2, 2006 (UTC)
- It's very much intentional; at the end of some of the episodes it would show the protagonists in a library with a real yin-yang symbol on the wall. I think it's designed to symbolize their complementary (different) personalities, or something like that. Stonemason89 (talk) 20:33, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Maya's ADHD
[edit]In the character descriptions it says that Maya "shows signs of ADHD because of her impulsives and her hyperactivity in some episodes". This is not true. A person with ADHD can't focus on one thing for long periods of time. Maya is shown quite often having incredible concentration and focus... even beyond what most adults have. The energy she has is that of a child. She is a lot like Fran Drescher's "The Nanny" or Lucille Ball in "I Love Lucy". However, the episode "The Bet" shows an example of Maya possibly having ADHD due to her impersonating a male building inspector and interrupting a dance competition and moving it into the hotel ballroom next door. 70.108.129.78 22:06, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Charms
[edit]In the intro, it is seen that Mayas hair band glows when she gets a idea, but its also seen that Miguel also has a "charm", his soccer shoe glows too. But the glowing soccer shoe isnt seen in any show, well, Glowing!--Klaus Baude 123 16:24, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
"Multicultural" goals of the Show
[edit]I realize that I make no friends calling a kids show to the mat, but I must question the "multicultural" goals of this show.
"Part of the dialogue in each episode is in Spanish but only individual words or phrases which are explained in English."
What does this tell you? It says to me that - contrary to the creators stated goals [1]- the goal of this show is not to teach Spanish-speaking kids to speak English, but to teach ENGLISH-SPEAKING kids to speak SPANISH.
This is all too typical of the multiculturalist factions' insidious goals - WE ARE FINE BUT YOU MUST CHANGE! The apparent goal of this show is to enculturate English-speaking Americans into Hispanic culture, and NOT vice-versa (This seems to be a current theme in "multicuturalist" offerings - the idea that it is no longer the immigrants who must fit into a dominant culture, but it is the dominant culture that must change to accommodate the immigrants. This particularly seems to be the case when referring to Anglo-America - and often times seems to ONLY apply to Anglo-America). Further evidence of this is readily available on the PBS website - which includes, under the 'parents and teachers' section, a "lesson plan" offering "HISPANIC HERITAGE: Learn about the contributions of Hispanic Americans in the United States [2]." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Camperdude (talk • contribs) 23:27, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
The above rant doesn't really belong on a Wikipedia talk page. If you are really so worried that "Anglo-American" culture is under attack, then perhaps you should join the Council of Conservative Citizens or another similarly-minded organization, which might be more welcoming toward your own personal POV than a Wikipedia talk page would be. I personally don't find anything "insidious" about Hispanic culture, and indeed I find such fears as yours (prejudices, actually) to be repugnant. You have free speech, though, so who am I to stop you from speaking your mind? Stonemason89 (talk) 20:26, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
References
Episode List
[edit]Can I get a source for those episodes in the Seasons 4 and 5 section? Only a few of them look real... 68.162.163.108 (talk) 18:20, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
2004-present??
[edit]I checked the TV guide, and it seems that Maya and Miguel has been cancelled. I'm kind of glad, actually. : D 74.33.174.133 (talk) 18:26, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Theme Song Change
[edit]Originally, the theme song included the lines "...he leads with his head and she follows her heart..." Later that line was changed to "...they both do good deeds and they each do their part..." or something like that. Any idea why they did that? I don't really know. Stonemason89 (talk) 20:25, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
- They probably changed the words because the original words reinforced a discriminatory gender stereotype (men think and women feel). Kaweah (talk) 14:31, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
- Who sang it, though? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.247.228.61 (talk) 00:50, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
Do the other characters from various episodes in The Loud House Style
[edit]I need more Maya & Miguel Fanart, so would you draw their teachers, classmates and parents in The Loud House Style?
BenjaminTheTrainGuy (talk) 04:42, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
Benjamin Lew
Proposed merge of Maggie Lee into Maya & Miguel#Characters
[edit]Not substantive enough subject for standalone article, can easily be dealt with within the main Maya & Miguel one. DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:29, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- There is nothing really to merge, a few extra sentences could be added to this article if necessary (but not really necessary). ... discospinster talk 17:37, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- Well, quite. :) --DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:26, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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Maya
[edit]hello maya how are u 2A02:1810:1519:B500:4559:A119:8CF5:E206 (talk) 13:36, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
hello 2A02:1810:1519:B500:4559:A119:8CF5:E206 (talk) 13:36, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
The Mom
[edit]I always though the mom was voiced by Fran Drecher of The Nanny 96.245.152.222 (talk) 12:40, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
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