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Symbols[edit]

Do we need to include a seperate section for symbols if all of the symbols are included in the InfoBox Fraternity template at the start of the article?Msnicolem (talk) 17:34, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well the Coat of Arms isn't. The rules on whether or not to include things that are already in the infobox is vague. I'd keep it for now.Naraht (talk) 17:57, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Per MOS, the infobox is a summary of the article. Therefore, this content should be found and sourced in the article. Thus, a symbols section should be included. Rublamb (talk) 20:45, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Additional Resource - Compass V1 N1[edit]

The very first issue of the Compass June 1921 is available at https://celectcdn.s3.amazonaws.com/files/0034/0188/Compass_-_1921_June.pdf . Lots of very interesting information. Also, since this was published in 1921 (before 1923), I believe that pictures can be used from it without permission.

isn't "Women's fraternity" an oxymoron[edit]

I thought it was just called a sorority — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:6E00:1E2E:1801:4C19:DEC6:8EF6:3E3 (talk) 16:34, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Several organizations, which may be generically referred to as sororities, call themselves women's fraternities. —C.Fred (talk) 19:28, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of Patronage by Saint Catherine of Siena and Motto[edit]

An IP user who has indicated that they are a member of Theta Phi Alpha grand council has deleted both the Patronage of St. Catherine of Siena and her motto from this page. As this information is currently on the Theta Phi Alpha web page at https://thetaphialpha.org/collegians/Family-information, I have restored it. For a user who is a member of the Theta Phi Alpha grand council, Theta Phi Alpha grand council WP:OWN applies, as the page is about Theta Phi Alpha rather than owned by them.Naraht (talk) 21:04, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Readers, Naraht is being gentle here. An anonymous user (~IP user) explained that she is on the Theta Phi Alpha council, and made several changes. That's often just fine, but the changes have to be referenced or supported by other documents. For the changes contemplated here, we'd normally go to the organization's stable, official website to confirm. However, that website has not yet been updated with the change regarding Catherine of Siena or the motto. --Wikipedia isn't a repository of original research: these facts have to come from other sources. As Naraht rightly points out, Wikipedia articles aren't controlled by the subject organizations. This fact can be worrisome for new editors or members of groups that may be discomfited when a subject dear to them is discussed in a forum that is not under their control, but that's how Wikipedia is set up. Naraht and I, along with others who are part of the Fraternities and Sororities Wikipedia Project, police these articles for vandalism, copyright violation, bad formatting and poor writing. We are supportive of these articles and the many organizations they profile, but we always attempt to operate as neutral editors. Here, if the organization has moved away from Catherine of Siena, once this fact is shown on the national website, if you do not consequently update this Wikipedia article, place a note here and we will catch up. Jax MN (talk) 21:21, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Siena in Tuscany not Sienna , the pigmentNaraht (talk) 23:12, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed. Jax MN (talk) 21:53, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]