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No criticism?

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The following paragraph was removed:

Zawahri has called Aal ash-Shaikh one of the "Fuqahaa (jurists) of the Marines" for keeping mum on the presence of the American military personnel on Saudi Arabian soil.[1] Aal ash-Shaikh was called castigated as a "Mufti who rules according to the school of Bush."[2]

Why can't there be any criticism?--71.108.20.189 (talk) 04:50, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It isn't about removing the criticism; it's about WP:RS and WP:V, among other policies and guidelines. The personal web page of a political talking head isn't sufficient, especially in light of WP:BLP. A real academic or trustworthy journalistic source should be sought. MezzoMezzo (talk) 04:55, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
1st, Zawahri is very famous, much more so than Aal ash-Shaikh. 2nd, I really dislike the notion that Zawahri isn't qualified to criticize because you don't consider him a "real academic."--71.108.20.189 (talk) 05:08, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think you've misunderstood what I was saying. I never said that Zawahiri isn't notable. I said the sources the above edit was based on are not up to par with WP:RS or WP:V or WP:BLP. As for Zawahiri being a real academic, well, he isn't. He has a medical degree, that's about it. He's not even a teacher or journalist anywhere, he's a figurehead in a militaristic movement. MezzoMezzo (talk) 05:12, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Credentialism

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The article is very biased in favor of Aal ash-Shaikh and has almost nothing meaningful in it at the present. It focuses too much on the formal educational training of him. It doesn't cite any real theological achievement in Islam other than noting his formal education and jobs. It appears that Aal ash-Shaikh is just a run-of-the-mill Islamic theologian picked by Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz to blindly--pun intended--follow state policy.--71.108.20.189 (talk) 05:04, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There isn't a whole lot of material available on him in the English language - he lives in the Middle East and is followed by a predominantly non-Western audience. The sheer number of Google hits, the number of his books translated into English (not books about him, but books he has written) and his status as the head cleric in Saudi Arabia cement his notability as an individual however finding specifics is more difficult. MezzoMezzo (talk) 05:10, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Number of wives

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Does he have more than one wife? Any info. will be appreciated.--71.108.3.62 (talk) 11:55, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, he doesn't. He has one wife with four sons. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abrnkak (talkcontribs) 02:07, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
He has one verified wife, how some videos have shown him with other women.--88.111.123.155 (talk) 18:04, 28 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

sunni ????

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He is not sunni he is wahhabi it's different from sunni and it doesn't have any association with sunni and it denies a lot of sunni's beliefs.you shouldn't write his Religion "sunni islam" — Preceding unsigned comment added by M amin M (talkcontribs) 10:31, 10 June 2012 (UTC) Whahhabism is a type of sunnism!--88.111.125.204 (talk) 18:26, 13 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Debatable.--88.111.123.155 (talk) 18:06, 28 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Djall

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It should be mentioned some people think he is Djall,as he dress like a Jew and is blind in one eye!--88.111.125.204 (talk) 18:27, 13 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dissing Husayn

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Crossing the red line http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98bK3V7JNfY !--88.111.125.204 (talk) 18:56, 13 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Is he Islamaphobic ?--79.69.96.179 (talk) 17:56, 29 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Date of birth in article and infobox do not match

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You have two differing dates for the birthday of this person. Obviously, one is incorrect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul-Aziz_ibn_Abdullah_Al_ash-Sheikh — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.255.171.28 (talk) 08:45, 23 January 2015 (UTC) (copied from Editor Assistance/RequestsTransporterMan (TALK) 14:00, 23 January 2015 (UTC) (Not watching))[reply]

Prejudice/vandalism/bias

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Hello, this is concerning this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul-Aziz_ibn_Abdullah_Al_ash-Sheikh this man has said and will say his Islam is "salafiyyah", but other sects have a derogatory word called "wahhabists" or "wahhabism" which does not exist, there used to live a person called Imam Ibn Abdul Wahab, and salafis follow this man as one of their scholars, but because this man refuted the other sects, they don't like the followers of him and himself, so they just call them "wahhabists" this is a derogatory term. So when I saw this, I simply had to change it to what he would say, because its not fair to have a derogatory word as what he believes, so can you please help me stop the vandalism on this page, the people that are doing it have more status on wiki but they have a natural bias, they cannot and will not bring 1 source to where this man said "I am a wahhabi" but I can bring easily sources that he says "I am a salafi".

Thank you for your time — Preceding unsigned comment added by RamyIbnSamir (talkcontribs) 02:01, 18 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@RamyIbnSamir: I changed the infobox religion row to "Sunni Islam" because the article does not explicitly talk about him as a Wahhabi or a Salafi. This follows what the Saudi Arabia page does. Hopefully that's okay with everyone; I know very little about Islam so feel free to correct me. – FenixFeather (talk)(Contribs) 05:11, 18 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That is fine, thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by RamyIbnSamir (talkcontribs) 17:12, 18 August 2016 (UTC) This is a wrong edit, wahhabism is a XVIII century reform movement criticised non-stop but the mainstream Muslims. It has to be stated that he is a wahhabi or a salafi to differiate him from the sunni muslims that adhere to the four hsitorical islamic law schools, see more here [3][4][5]. Please, don't make edits if you have no clue about the subject. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Szalony Mnich (talkcontribs) 00:09, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Szalony Mnich: Read the article. I found a source for Wahhabi, and updated the infobox accordingly. – FenixFeather (talk)(Contribs) 11:41, 9 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Father and grandfather.

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Who were his father and grandfather? --89.178.223.133 (talk) 16:49, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]