Talk:Anna Atkins
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Very poorly written
[edit]Full of 'maybe', 'assumed', 'some sources believe' etc etc etc. There are no grounds for stating that she did or possibly did publish the first photographic book, since we have evidence about Fox Talbot. The syntax also needs radical revision in several places.
"Atkins pursued her interests in botany, for example by collecting dried plants." Did she collect dried plants or did she collect plants and dry (press) them for preservation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.163.47.9 (talk) 14:17, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
Not a photograph!
[edit]The method used was not a kind of photograph, it was a direct print by marking the objects aginst tainted paper. Photographs are made by direct light incision into photograph film or paper (silver, etc). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.245.189.166 (talk) 11:10, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
- Perhaps review the definition of photograph before making this assertion. Contact images are described as the first photographs, and "photograph" means, literally, "drawing with light". Weasley one (talk) 14:58, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
You should look it up yourself, Weasley. You are confusing etymology with meaning. Whatever the LITERAL rendering (NOT 'meaning' as you claim) into English may be, 'photograph' is not to be confused with 'photoGRAM', which is what we have here.
- A photograph need not necessarily be made with the use of a lens. The photogram is a specific type of photograph. I second Weasley's assertion. TerryToogood (talk) 17:29, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
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In the 1850s, Atkins collaborated with Anne Dixon (1799–1864), who was "like a sister" to her, to produce at least three presentation albums of cyanotype photograms.
Cyanotypes of British and Foreign Ferns (1853), now in the J. Paul Getty Museum; Cyanotypes of British and Foreign Flowering Plants and Ferns (1854), disassembled pages of which are held by various museums and collectors; An album inscribed to "Captain Henry Dixon," Anne Dixon's nephew (1861).
In addition, she published books with non-photographic work.
She died at Halstead Place in 1871 of "paralysis, rheumatism, and exhaustion" at the age of 72. 14.141.1.146 (talk) 11:22, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. That is what the article says, yes. Please request any changes in the form of "Change X to Y". Thanks, NiciVampireHeart 12:16, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
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Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. NiciVampireHeart 12:15, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
can she be added to some of these categories
[edit]Category:1799 births Category:1847 deaths Category:English Dissenters Category:19th-century English people Category:19th-century women scientists Category:British women scientists Category:Cancer deaths in England Category:Deaths from breast cancer Category:English palaeontologists Category:People from Lyme Regis Category:Women paleontologists
is what I see for Mary Anning - as they are both 19th century English women natural scientists they should share a lot! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.190.197.43 (talk • contribs)
- Most of those are inapplicable here, as their birth/death dates, cause of death, and place of origin are all different. Atkins also wasn't a paleontologist. The only one you've listed that is relevant and that she isn't in already is Category:19th-century women scientists, which I have now added to this article. postdlf (talk) 19:40, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
Please fix ambiguous sentence
[edit]It says: "She is often considered the first person to publish a book. Illustrated with photographic images." It should be "She is often considered the first person to publish a book illustrated with photographic images." (remove the period so it's a single sentence) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrincodi (talk • contribs) 20:08, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
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Expanding Bibliography
[edit]Hello,
I am beginning to contribute to this biography of Anna Atkins, in the context of a university course that I am a student of. I have been looking for new bibliograophical entries, and I thought I'd list some here in case anyone could offer wisdom as to my path so far. Here they are:
[1] Schaaf, Larry (1979). "The First Photographically Printed and Illustrated Book". The Papers of the Bibliographical Society of America. 73 (2): 209–224. ISSN 0006-128X.
[2] Saska, Hope (2010-03). "Anna Atkins: Photographs of British Algae". Bulletin of the Detroit Institute of Arts. 84 (1–4): 8–15. doi:10.1086/dia23183243. ISSN 0011-9636. Check date values in: |date= (help)
[3] Boom, Mattie; Rooseboom, Hans (2019). "Acquisitions: Photographs – Anna Atkins to Anne Geene". The Rijksmuseum Bulletin. 67 (2): 162–191. ISSN 1877-8127.
[4] Joy, Clair (2003), "Pfaff, Judy", Oxford Art Online, Oxford University Press, retrieved 2020-09-27
[5] Hornby, Louise E. J. (2006-09-01). "The Cameraless Optic: Anna Atkins and Virginia Woolf". English Language Notes. 44 (2): 87–100. doi:10.1215/00138282-44.2.87. ISSN 0013-8282.
[6] Mayer, Allana (2017-07-17). "The Artful Science of Anna Atkins". JSTOR Daily. Retrieved 2020-09-27.
[7] Sandback, Amy Baker (1997). "Endeavor of Like Spirits: Anna Atkins & Judy Pfaff". On Paper. 1 (5): 28–29. ISSN 1089-7909.
[8] "Anna Atkins | English photographer and botanist". Encyclopedia Britannica. Retrieved 2020-09-27.
If anyone has thoughts on these, I'd be happy to hear! Thank you for considering.
Letterwritingstudent (talk) 03:14, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
Did you know nomination
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The result was: rejected by Flibirigit (talk) 01:43, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- When Anna Atkins engaged in correspondence by way of letter-writing, she scarcely signed the documents with her own name.
1. Schaaf, Larry (1979). "The First Photographically Printed and Illustrated Book". The Papers of the Bibliographical Society of America. 73 (2): 209–224. ISSN 0006-128X. https://www.jstor.org/stable/24302456?mag=the-artful-science-of-anna-atkins&seq=4#metadata_info_tab_contents Reference material: "She apparently did not communicate much by letter under her own name..." (page 212).
5x expanded by [[User:|User:]] ([[User talk:|talk]]). Nominated by Letterwritingstudent (talk) at 03:55, 10 November 2020 (UTC).
The article does not appear to have received a 5x expansion within the last seven days, meaning that the article is currently ineligible for DYK. Sorry to be the bringer of bad news Letterwritingstudent and hopefully this experience will not discourage you from participating in DYK in the future. For now, I would suggest you read the rules and guidelines at WP:DYK so that your next nomination can be successful. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:02, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
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