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Arleta Library Bakery & Cafe is currently an Agriculture, food and drink good article nominee. Nominated by --Another Believer _(Talk) at 03:31, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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Note: Co-nominated with TrademarkedTWOrantula

Short description: Defunct restaurant in Portland, Oregon, U.S.

Arleta Library Bakery & Cafe was nominated as a Agriculture, food and drink good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (July 19, 2024, reviewed version). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated.

This article was nominated for deletion on 17 December 2022. The result of the discussion was Procedural close.

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The closest thing I could find for an image of the building was this. Unfortunately, it's all I've found. TWOrantula^TM (enter the web) 23:52, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't able to upload the image via Flickypedia, so maybe not licensed appropriately. Hopefully someone will upload a photo of the building's exterior some day. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 01:19, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

review? co-nom for Good article status?

@TrademarkedTWOrantula: This is another restaurant article I'd be interested in co-nominating, if someone's able to review more thoroughly beforehand (copy edit, fact check, etc) Are you interested in collaborating? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 00:05, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, sure! Let's see how many we can do. TWOrantula^TM (enter the web) 00:13, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Like ---Another Believer _(Talk) 00:15, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TrademarkedTWOrantula Feel free to make any other article improvements, but I've gone ahead and submitted the co-nom! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:51, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from TWOrantula

The lead could be expanded, specifically with information on the restaurant's history and reception.
The two citations in the lead could be moved into the article body somewhere.
- Done ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:47, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"This family-owned treasure uses local ingredients like Painted Hills natural beef in the Sicilian hash and Pearl Bakery brioche in the battered and grilled pan dolce served with whipped honey butter, organic maple syrup, and seasonal fresh fruit." -> The family-owned business used local ingredients including beef, brioche, maple syrup, and seasonal fruit. (might want to include the names of the dishes too)
- Done ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:51, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ahead of their 2019 divorce - Would suggest rewording as it is awkwardly squeezed in the prose
- Does "until their divorce in 2019" work for you? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:36, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Y Yep! TWOrantula^TM (enter the web) 16:14, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The hole-in-the-wall[...] cafe has been around for 15 years but couldn't withstand the financial strain the coronavirus pandemic placed on the establishment. Although there can't be any hugs, shoutouts, or last calls, according to Arleta's Facebook page, there is a GoFundMe for patrons to give staff one last tip. -> ...that a GoFundMe page was founded to tip the staff.
While never much of a library, the Arleta Cafe earned a certain measure of cultural permanence when Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives Guy Fieri stopped by to marvel at its trademark sweet potato biscuits with rosemary-sausage gravy. Following the Food Network imprimatur and owner Sarah Iannarone's ill-starred mayoral candidacy, a steady string of curious interlopers have joined die-hard regulars amid the morning crush. - Needs to be paraphrased, but I'm not sure how. Try to take out the main idea and summarize it in a sentence.
Do we need an image of Sarah Iannarone?
- Removed. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:54, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

TWOrantula^TM (enter the web) 03:10, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:38, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TrademarkedTWOrantula I did not agree with many of the comments left in the GA review. Would you like for me to re-nominate and see if a different editor would offer a review? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 03:14, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kind of agree with you. I felt as though the reviewer failed the article too soon, which gave us little time to correct and improve the article. However, we should use the suggestions in the review before re-nominating. TWOrantula^TM (enter the web) 03:24, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Where you agree with the reviewing editor, I would welcome your improvements to the article. However, where you disagree, the changes are not required. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 03:26, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TrademarkedTWOrantula I am re-nominating the article, and I invite you to add your name as a co-nom if you're interested. Thanks ---Another Believer _(Talk) 03:32, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Fail

I'm really sorry about the fail. I think given the amount of rewriting required, it is more appropriate for some time to be taken and then resubmitted. I can already see the work TWOrantula is putting in is improving it a lot. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 03:12, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I do not appreciate that you left a review, then when a nominator started to address issues, you closed the process and failed the nomination. In my opinion, this is not in the spirit of collaboration. However, you've made your decision. I hope that if TrademarkedTWOrantula and I seek another review, you will let another editor review this time. Thanks ---Another Believer _(Talk) 03:17, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yep. Next time, try not to close a nomination as soon as you post your comments. Unless you can find a major issue that Another Believer and I feel that impedes the article from passing, don't quickfail the article right away. TWOrantula^TM (enter the web) 03:26, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, I wasn't aware quickfail had to be at the exact same time as the review. It took me about ten minutes to confirm it should be quickfailed, as I wanted to read the guidelines before confirming. I'm sorry for missing you were editing the page TWOrantula. I will enter the quickfail at the same time as the review in the future.

TWOrantula; I definitely don't think I need nominator approval to quickfail.

Another Believer; I won't review the Bistro Agnes page. I'll also ask for a review of my conduct on the discussion board, and won't fail anything until it's discussed. I'll also get a few more reviews under my belt before I come back to an article you nominate. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 03:49, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:14, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is the appearance on TV a reflection of notability or what makes it notable?

Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 15:08, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In addition to sufficient secondary coverage, the national TV program certainly helps demonstrate notability. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:12, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]