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Remove ‘Former’ from opening sentence

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Bill Cosby has not retired and so is not ‘former’ to any of his still active to all components of his career. 107.122.85.72 (talk) 15:37, 5 April 2024 (UTC) 107.122.85.72 (talk) Bold Edit: Will see to ‘former’ is removed within 48 hours and restructure opening sentence to state the factual presumption of innocence Cosby currently has as a Constitutional right in fact of law. 107.122.85.72 (talk) 21:34, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What are you talking about? He's 86 and has not engaged in any professional activity since at least 2018. Not surprisingly multiple reliable sources describe him as "former".[1],[2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7]. DeCausa (talk) 22:11, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is no formal announcement from Cosby or representative of Cosby’s announcement of his retirement. In fact current announcements by a Cosby representative is the planning of a return to active touring.

Wiki is not a gossip columnists paradise. It documents the facts of living persons.107.116.110.12 (talk) 20:12, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cosby or his representatives would be a primary source. Wikipedia relies on secondary sources. If secondary sources consider him a former actor, we go with that. Cortador (talk) 15:00, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So you just cite the National Enquirer, make it up and turn Wikipedia into agossip columnist’s paradise when the facts are Cosby is known to be planning to tour, write books etc. Got it.24.113.167.154 (talk) 12:58, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The National Enquirer is an unreliable source as per list of perennial sources, and thus not suitable as a source. However, let that not keep you from being worked up by things you made up in your head. Cortador (talk) 21:53, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No one has cited the National Enquirer. I cited The Independent, CNN, BBC, Variety, Fox News, The Atlantic, and The New York Times. "known to be planning to tour, write books". That's gossip. DeCausa (talk) 21:59, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bill Cosby is eyeing a return to touring. The controversial comedian said as much during a surprise radio interview on “WGH Talk” with host Scott Spears. Cosby answered “yes” when asked if he finally might be able to tour again (from Variety) Get rid of the racist based ‘former’ which an edit by supremacy advocates.24.113.175.78 (talk) 22:33, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:American sportspeople convicted of crimes

Can this category be added? 150.143.27.147 (talk) 20:00, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Did Cosby ever do sports professionally? I think that categy is reserved for professionals and/or people primarily known as sportspeople. Cortador (talk) 14:08, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In any case this is mooted by the appeal decision. RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 21:24, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Intro glosses subject's crime

I read the "Convicted sex offender' Talk thread from March, and I'm fine with the first sentence, but does seem that the intro glosses the reported severity of his crime. I suggest we mention in the intro that Cosby admitted drugging women he planned to have sex with, and also change 'tarnished his legacy' to something stronger. Maybe 'severely tarnished'. Given the media coverage, that is accurate and maintains NPOV. 38.49.84.175 (talk) 20:59, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, just before it mentions "tarnished", it mentions it ended his career. The sets the severity of it. Changing it to "severely tarnished" would be seen as WP:PEACOCK verbiage. Who are we to say it is severe or not? The reader should decide that from the context given in the body rather then from us. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 05:40, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]