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"Causal fermion systems were introduced by Felix Finster and collaborators." if this is true, then Holland maybe introduced the idea during 1998

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"The causal interpretation of quantum mechanics is extended to include Fermi fields." in https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/037596018891033X P.R.Holland 1998

The first dated papers showing the exact "Causal fermion systems" Felix Finster (in google scholar) seem to date to 2012:

https://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=Causal+fermion+systems+quantum+gravity&btnG=

https://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?start=10&q=Causal+fermion+systems&hl=en&as_sdt=0,5

Armoracia (talk) 19:20, 12 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In addition to which:

H Nikolić 2005 Bohmian particle trajectories in relativistic fermionic quantum field theory https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10702-005-3957-3 "A general method of causal interpretation of quantum systems is developed and applied to a causal interpretation of fermionic quantum field theory..."

Armoracia (talk) 19:26, 12 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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It is correct that causal fermion systems were introduced in 2012. Although its title contains the words "causal" and "Fermi", the paper by Holland is indeed not related to causal fermion systems. It also does not contain any preliminary ideas or methods which led to causal fermion systems.

Causal fermion systems are based on the "principle of the fermionic projector" formulated in hep-th/0001048. The considerations which led from the "principle of the fermionic projector" to causal fermion systems are outlined in the "Preface to the second online edition" in the latest version of hep-th/0001048. The first reference to the "principle of the fermionic projector" can be found in the unpublished preprint gr-qc/9606040.

2A01:C22:7A13:1600:60EB:A67A:3E94:C70 (talk) 16:13, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Armoracia (talk) 20:47, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The references all show Finster, do you think these should be included also?
https://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9611028 "The Causal Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics and The Singularity Problem in Quantum Cosmology" J. Acacio de Barros (Physics Department/UFJF, Brazil), N. Pinto-Neto (CBPF/Lafex, Brazil) 1996"
"In 1926, Fermi discovered the statistical laws, nowadays known as the «Fermi statistics», governing the particles subject to Pauli’s exclusion principle (now referred to as «fermions»" source: https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/1938/fermi/biographical/
Holland - The causal interpretation of quantum mechanics is extended to include Fermi fields https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/037596018891033X
Armoracia (talk) 21:00, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]


I do not think that the above references are relevant. Of course, one could put in general hyperlinks to "fermions" or "causality"; this might be helpful.
132.199.115.63 (talk) 07:50, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]