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Edmond Paris was really Catholic?

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Edmond Paris was really Roman Catholic? Can you prove the point? He was Anti Catholic. -Liturgy (talk) 11:36, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for starting this thread. In answer to your question, well yes, to some extent at least. I've cited Cohen (1996, published by Texas A&M Uni Press) in the article, who says that the dust cover of one of Paris' books says that he was a French historian from a Catholic family. So, there is at the very least that much. So, at the very least the man himself says he was born into a Catholic family. That is a positive statement. Now, if you can find a reliable source that says he was not a practising Catholic, despite his upbringing, that would mean we would contrast to the two sources. You wouldn't just delete a category out of hand on the basis that he criticised Catholicism. There are plenty of ex-Catholic priests out there who have had damning things to say about the Church. They were all Catholics at one point. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (crack... thump) 12:18, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Why is this article nominated for speedy deletion?

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I just saw that this article is nominated for speedy deletion, by user @Liturgy:, but I do not see any real reason for such hasty and drastic action. It seems to me that this article is quite relevant, and since Edmond Paris was a controversial author it would seem improper not to discus any issues regarding the very article about him and his works. If someone does not like his provocative works on religious politics, that is OK, but that is not a sufficient reason for speedy deletion. Actually, his critique of religious extremism and clero-fascism is quite relevant, and he is often quoted in scholarly literature. That much can be easily seen on Google Scholar search and Google Books search. Sorabino (talk) 13:58, 3 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It seems that original nomination for speedy deletion was changed to proposed deletion and the change was explained by the same user @Liturgy: His full length biography from primary sources is left wanting; it may even be a pseudonym. I can't find any information about him except for his books. I doubt the personality of Edmond Paris. Regarding those doubts, I looked for institutionally backed information about the author and found him regularly catalogized under the name Edmond Paris by Library of Congress Name Authority and also by Bibliothèque nationale de France: Notice de personne, without any mention of alleged pseudonym. It seems that professional librarians in Washington and Paris do not doubt the existence of this author. Sorabino (talk) 15:30, 3 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your reply. I saw the Library of Congress Name Authority and also by Bibliothèque nationale de France Notice de personne pages. But Is this enough information to expose us all? This person's identity is still a mystery. We don't know about his birthplace, family relations, educational background, career etc. And Is he regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors in the academic world? Again, His full length biography from primary sources is left wanting. Is this page a really worthy of notice? Can we find more informations about him? --Liturgy (talk) 16:49, 3 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]