Talk:Henry T. Sloane House

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A fact from Henry T. Sloane House appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 14 June 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the adjacent Jennings and Sloane Houses comprise New York City's largest single-family residence?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/June. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Oliver Gould Jennings House.

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Bruxton talk 04:57, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The Jennings House (left) and Sloane House (right)

... that the adjacent Jennings and Sloane houses comprise New York City's largest single-family residence? Source: "Qatar Is On an Upper East Side Townhouse Tear". The Observer. February 3, 2014.
- ALT1: ... that New York City's largest single-family residence, the adjacent Jennings and Sloane houses, belongs to Qatar? Source: "Qatar Is On an Upper East Side Townhouse Tear". The Observer. February 3, 2014.
- ALT2: ... that New York City's largest single-family residence, the adjacent Jennings and Sloane houses, was once a French school? Source: "Qatar Is On an Upper East Side Townhouse Tear". The Observer. February 3, 2014; McGeveran, Tom (August 19, 2002). "Merde! Lycee Buys Toxic Dump". The New York Observer. p. 1.
- ALT3: ... that though a French school tried to sell the adjacent Jennings and Sloane houses for US$51 million, the emir of Qatar eventually paid half that amount? Source: "Qatar Is On an Upper East Side Townhouse Tear". The Observer. February 3, 2014; McGeveran, Tom (August 19, 2002). "Merde! Lycee Buys Toxic Dump". The New York Observer. p. 1.
- Reviewed: Pujol (restaurant), List of Michelin starred restaurants in Mexico
- Comment: I can propose individual hooks if none of the above are satisfactory. Epicgenius (talk) 15:15, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 655 past nominations.

Epicgenius (talk) 15:12, 30 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Both articles are fully sourced, and DYK eligible. The first hook is, I feel, the most interesting. No evidence of copyvio on either. The sourcing and the QPQs check out on this. Image is correctly licensed. Seems like we're good to go. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 03:13, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Passed. ZKang123 (talk) 00:35, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Henry T. Sloane House/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Epicgenius (talk · contribs) 17:28, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 03:15, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Will pick this up.--ZKang123 (talk)

Copyedits

Earwig flagged mainly common phrases and names of streets and places, and a quote that has been lifted from the source.

Lead

The facade is divided vertically into four bays and is made of limestone, rising four stories from the street. – The limestone facade is divided vertically into four bays and rises four stories from the street.
In 1901 it was purchased... – add comma after the year.
Starting in 1964, it... – tbh using that phrase, it kind of implied that currently, starting in 1964, that the Lycée Français de New York is now the present occupant, though it's not the case here. Might suggest using a different phrase.

More comments to come.--ZKang123 (talk) 01:58, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have done all of these. Epicgenius (talk) 16:24, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Architecture

The only visible elevation of the facade, on 72nd Street, is divided vertically into four bays. – remove commas.
each of which corresponds to one of the bays – each corresponding to each bay
There is a large curving staircase up to the second floor – A large curving staircase lead up to the second floor.
Remove At some point. I don't think it's necessary here. Maybe you can say "later installed"

More comments to come.--ZKang123 (talk) 03:36, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have done all of these, too. Epicgenius (talk) 16:24, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Original residence

until the 1890s, at a time when – "at a time" is unnecessary.
for his permanent residence, the Joseph Pulitzer House. – suggest an en-dash
Add inflation values
no longer chose to live in these mansions. – no longer reside...

More comments to come.--ZKang123 (talk) 01:19, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have done all of these as well. Thanks for the initial comments ZKang123. Epicgenius (talk) 16:24, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Continued:

The few visitors he did invite had a largely negative impression of him. Does this still refer to the cook or Stillman?
- It refers to Stillman. Epicgenius (talk) 14:21, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
one newspaper described the house the next year as one of several empty mansions in New York City – Buffalo News in the following year reported the house as among the several empty mansions in New York City.
- Done. Epicgenius (talk) 14:21, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

History (continued)

After Lycée Français developed a new building on York Avenue in the 2000s, the school originally considered keeping the six townhouses that it owned, including the houses at 7 and 9 East 72nd Street, but they were all protected as city landmarks, making it difficult to modify any of the houses without permission from the city government. – I suggest splitting this chunk of a sentence.
- Done. Epicgenius (talk) 14:21, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I might rename "Conversion back to residence" subsection to "Qatari residence"
- Done. Epicgenius (talk) 14:21, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Curious, the LPC allow the renovations to combine the two houses?
- Yes. As long as the modifications don't involve the exterior, the property owner doesn't need the LPC's permission. Epicgenius (talk) 14:21, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Qatari government began combining the two buildings into a single house in 2004; the project, designed by Thornton Tomasetti, took six years. – Suggest splitting the latter clause and rewrite: The project was designed by Thornton Tomasetti and took six years.
- Done. Epicgenius (talk) 14:21, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's all for copyedits.--ZKang123 (talk) 07:46, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Images

All photos are under CC-BY or BY-SA licensed, some of which are taken by the nominator.

Sourcing and spotchecks

Most sources are by NYT, which is a high quality source, and supported by commentary from architects. The references of FN17 check out, as well as what is cited from the LPC report.--ZKang123 (talk) 07:53, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review. I've addressed all of the comments you've raised above. Epicgenius (talk) 14:21, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.