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GA Review

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Reviewer: HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk · contribs) 00:16, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]


  1. It is reasonably well written.
  1. a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall: Pass
    Pass/Fail:

Review

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Lead

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  • Are references needed in the lead? Refs should only be used for controversial information
  • top eleven, eleven should be 11

 Done all. There is a hidden note with a reference in it. Should that be moved out too? Rusted AutoParts 18:16, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I would unless the genre is controversial HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 18:18, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I am seeing a minor discussion happened in 2015. I'm figuring the genre was contested at that point, with the hidden message added to dissuade further changes. Rusted AutoParts 19:05, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Stage-to-screen changes

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  • Meanwhile, many of the songs in the film have slightly different lyrics than their stage counterparts due to the slight tweaking of story lines. needs a reference
  • Thus the film does slightly differ from the stage production, comma after thus
  • deleted - odd word
  • Is there a reference for the last paragraph?

 Done all. Rusted AutoParts 18:26, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Development at Disney

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  • After the critical and commercial success of Chicago in 2002, director Rob Marshall approached Stephen Sondheim as he was interested in adapting one of his musicals such as Follies and Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street, although Sondheim suggested Into the Woods instead long and oddly worded
Does this new wording work? "Following his success with the film adaptation of Chicago, Rob Marshall approached Stephen Sondheim as he was interested in adapting one of his musicals, with Sondheim suggesting Into the Woods to him" Rusted AutoParts 18:49, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Is this okay Rusted AutoParts; "After the critical and commercial success of Chicago in 2002, director Rob Marshall approached Stephen Sondheim with a proposal to adapt one of his musicals. Although Marshall was initially interested in adapting Follies and Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street, Sondheim suggested Into the Woods instead." HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 18:56, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Perfect, I have inserted it. Rusted AutoParts 19:02, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sondheim confirmed that a new song had been written for the film. When did he confirm, to who. Please elaborate

 Done Rusted AutoParts 18:52, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • (As a young Yale University student, she had participated in the original production of Sondheim's The Frogs.) why is this in brackets, what does this add?
 Done Rusted AutoParts 18:56, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Rusted AutoParts You have to move the reference over as well to support the claim. May I suggest a rewording to She was already familair with his work, having participated in the original production of Sondheim's The Frogs as a student at Yale.HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 19:58, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Hollywood Reporter reported that to help make the film on such a tight budget, Depp agreed as a favor to Disney and to Marshall (whom he had just worked with in On Stranger Tides) to a "boarding" arrangement, in which he would appear in a minor role for a fee of $1 million, instead of his typical fee of $20 million for a starring role too long. I suggest removing (whom he had just worked with in On Stranger Tides).

 Done Rusted AutoParts 18:55, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Crawford auditioned for Marshall via Skype, who offered her the role within two hours; she was on a flight to London the next day, move the sentence she was on a flight to London the next day before who offered her the role within two hours.
I think the sentence is implying she was on a flight to the set the next day after being offered. Would removing the semi-colon and rewording it to "who offered her the role within two hours. Crawford was on a flight to London the next day as a resukt" or something? Rusted AutoParts 18:59, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Rusted AutoParts Ahhh, I see. Yes, your re-wording is much better. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 19:56, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Rusted AutoParts 22:07, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Mauzy later revealed that she first auditioned for Cinderella but did not get the part. However, director Marshall saw her audition tape and brought her back in for Rapunzel, after recognizing "the 'vulnerability' and 'emotion' Mauzy could bring to Rapunzel after she read just one line", as he recalle should be before Sophia Grace Brownlee
 Done Rusted AutoParts 19:00, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Filming

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  • A stuntman was employed to shoot hair-climbing scenes oddly placed. It seems like a nonsequitur and needs some better transition words
  • Footage was edited together in Avid Media Composer could be combined with the previous sentence

 Done all, I reworded and fitted the stuntman line within the sentence following it. Rusted AutoParts 18:41, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Release

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  • It was released theatrically in the United States on December 25, 2014. needs a reference

 Done Rusted AutoParts 18:27, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Critical response

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  • The paragraph praising Streep needs a reference
  • Leonard Maltin called the movie as "one of the year's best films". Similarly, Pete Hammond of Deadline praised the film as "the most dazzling movie musical since Marshall's own Chicago." and praised the performance of the cast, particularly Streep. Lou Lumerick of the New York Post called the film "this century's best musical" and lauded the performances of Streep and Blunt as the best female performances of the year. needs a reference
  • Gregory Ellwood of HitFix tipped Streep - I think you mean tapped

 Done all Rusted AutoParts 18:38, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

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  • Interviews should generally be avoided
Now, would this mean that any sources utilising interviews be removed? Rusted AutoParts 22:10, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reference 22 doesn't say family friendly
 Done Rusted AutoParts 18:45, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reference 29, 37, 39 doesn't support text
Sorry to ask again, but which sources are these specifically? Rusted AutoParts 22:10, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reference 30 doesn't specify which Roseanne
In regards to this, I believe it is due to Roseanne being a frequent shorthand for her, in addition to the name of her show. Should I put Roseanne Barr into a pipe like Roseanne? Rusted AutoParts 18:45, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 18:51, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Remove reference 53
As I shifted around some sources and added in a few new ones could you specify which source you meant? Rusted AutoParts 18:47, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Rusted AutoParts It is the Twitter thread. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 18:51, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Rusted AutoParts 18:53, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Fix title of the reference 56
  • Reference 60 needs publisher and author

I will also need pointing towards the other mentioned references due to the new and moved references. I wouldn't want to remove or alter the wrong sources. Rusted AutoParts 19:03, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. Reference 60 was "Sophia Grace INTO THE WOODS Exit Explained; Dad Comments" and reference 56 is "Viral video star Sophia Grace Brownlee joins 'Into the Woods' as..." You just have to remove the as since it is no longer in the title. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 19:39, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Rusted AutoParts 22:10, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Rusted AutoParts Reference 56 needs to have the as removed. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 22:48, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Rusted AutoParts 22:59, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Pass, good job! Rusted AutoParts HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 23:00, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for the review, Hickory. Rusted AutoParts 23:02, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]