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June 10[edit]

Category:Tortallan characters[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: result. Timrollpickering (talk) 12:43, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Tortallan characters (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Category is now empty--the previous inhabitants have all been redirected (they were fictional characters, not independently notable, in unverified articles). Drmies (talk) 21:31, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Regression software[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:49, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Regression software to Category:Regression and curve fitting software
Nominator's rationale: I'd like to add several more programs to this category and I think the proposed name (the same as in dmoz.org) is more suitable. Another solution would be to create a new category "Curve fitting software", but although there are separate articles for Regression analysis and Curve fitting, regression software means almost the same as curve-fitting software, so IMO it would be better to have one cat with longer name. Wojdyr (talk) 17:23, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Well, curve fitting is not necessarily performed through regression (eg Spline curve) and, in general, multiple regression does not relate to curve fitting. Despite this, many packages perform both types of activity. Whether a combined category would be useful, I am not too sure. I feel the dmoz Open Directory category[1] was a poor choice but I agree it offers a precedent. Thincat (talk) 10:36, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't mind a separate category for "Curve fitting software", but I suppose it would have a large overlap with the "Regression software" category. Wojdyr (talk) 12:56, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Linux graph plotting software[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Merge. Timrollpickering (talk) 12:42, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose merging Category:Linux graph plotting software to Category:Plotting software
Nominator's rationale: I don't know what's the general policy for intersections of software domain and operating systems (I don't have much experience in editing wikipedia). In this case there are probably no Linux-only apps in this cat. Several entries that I know are programs that run on all major platforms (Windows, OSX as well as Linux). Since these entries are missing from the parent cat (Plotting Software) it may be confusing for someone who is looking for Windows software. I propose to move all entries to either the parent Category:Plotting software or to sibling Category:Free plotting software. Wojdyr (talk) 14:07, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Special articles[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Speedy delete.  Frank  |  talk  01:09, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Special articles (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Nonsensical category JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 09:55, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Lunar eclipse of 2010 December 21[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Transwiki images to commons:Category:Lunar eclipse of 2010 December 21 and delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:48, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Lunar eclipse of 2010 December 21 to Category:December 2010 lunar eclipse
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Key article is at December 2010 lunar eclipse and the current name is clumsy. It's also impossible to get two lunar eclipses in one month, so the exact date is unnecessary. If it's named this way for sorting purposes, well, that's what piping's for. Grutness...wha? 07:38, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Cities in the Imperial Valley[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:45, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Cities in the Imperial Valley (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. This category is completely, 100% duplicative of the category Category:Cities in Imperial County, California. MelanieN (talk) 07:11, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed, they are not totally contiguous. But according to the article Imperial Valley (California), "Locally, the terms "Imperial Valley" and "Imperial County" are used synonymously." In any case, with regard to this category, there do not appear to be any cities in the one that are not also in the other. --MelanieN (talk) 14:25, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I found a CDP (Census Designated Place) called Palo Verde population 117 that appears to be in Imperial County and not in Imperial Valley.  I'm not satisfied that an argument has been made for deletion.  I don't think anyone is claiming that there are cities missing in one or the other.  I don't know why we have the list of cities in Imperial Valley in the first place, and being a duplicate of the list of cities in Imperial County doesn't tell me that I don't also want a separate list of cities in Imperial Valley, if only to see that the list is the same.  Unscintillating (talk) 19:10, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. One place being in Imperial County but not in Imperial Valley is not reason for the cat. We do not even sub-categorize the places in Los Angeles county, when there are way more of them and multiple valleys to subcategorize them in.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:08, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Cities in San Diego–Imperial, California[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Jafeluv (talk) 08:11, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Cities in San Diego–Imperial, California (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Unnecessary duplication of the existing categories "Cities in San Diego County, California" and "Cities in Imperial County, California". In fact those two subcategories are the only content to this category. All cities are in either one county or the other, there are no cities in both! MelanieN (talk) 07:05, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete  As a matter of opinion, where this is being used, I'd rather see two separate entries, "Cities in San Diego County, California" and "Cities in Imperial County, California".  However, it probably should be kept until it is an orphan, as a straight-out delete is wrong for the encyclopedia.  Unscintillating (talk) 13:48, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:San Diego–Imperial, California[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:51, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Category:San Diego–Imperial, California (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. This category is an unnecessary duplication of the existing categories "San Diego County, California" and "Imperial County, California". There are virtually no articles about the combination of the two counties; they pretty much all involve either one county or the other; so there is no need for this category. MelanieN (talk) 07:00, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment There is currently just that one article covering this subject - Southern Border region. As far as I can tell there are no bi-county water districts, and no other subjects or pages relating to "San Diego-Imperial". Aside from the one article, and a couple of sub-categories which are up for possible deletion here, everything else in this category properly belongs in either Category:San Diego County, California or Category:Imperial County, California --MelanieN (talk) 14:55, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This Google search ["San Diego" "Colorado River" water Imperial] gives an idea of the interest of these two counties in Colorado River water. This npr article states, with dateline December 15, 2003, "After eight years of negotiation, a portion of the Colorado River that used to flow into the farms of California's Imperial Valley is now finding its way to San Diego."  There is nothing that requires a water district to be a bi-county water district. This ref states that the IID service area includes parts of San Diego county.  Unscintillating (talk) 20:26, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Of course they share a common source of water (along with all of southern California). They also share highways and air traffic control and the same time zone. There are even overlapping congressional districts (as there are with other adjacent counties). But there are no Wikipedia articles about the links between these two counties on those subjects. In order to have a category, there have to be sufficient articles to make the category useful. --MelanieN (talk) 02:48, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I added the San Diego and Arizona Eastern Railway which in spite of its name runs from San Diego County to Imperial County.  Unscintillating (talk) 04:15, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"Just" is not a really a reason in and of itself.  Unscintillating (talk) 23:59, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fictional Martians[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Keep. Jafeluv (talk) 08:10, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Fictional Martians to Category:Martians
Nominator's rationale: Per main article, also all Martians are fictional. —Justin (koavf)TCM06:58, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
that seems like a bit premature but hey, why not keep it consistent? HominidMachinae (talk) 23:35, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There's also the various finds of (disputed) "bacteria" from Mars that could be called Martians. 65.94.47.63 (talk) 06:06, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Response Those would be Category:Martian life forms, but not "Martians". Are bacteria that are in the United States Americans? —Justin (koavf)TCM02:20, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
They are Terran bacteria. American is a citizenship issue, "Martian" is not a citizenship descriptor. 65.94.47.63 (talk) 07:23, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People from San Diego–Imperial, California[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Jafeluv (talk) 08:08, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People from San Diego–Imperial, California (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. This category is an unnecessary duplication of two existing categories, "People from San Diego County, California" and "People from Imperial County, California". In fact those two (sub)categories are the only content in this category. Everybody is from one county or the other, nobody is from "San Diego-Imperial", so there is no purpose for this category. MelanieN (talk) 06:50, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Australian people[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Keep. Jafeluv (talk) 08:07, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Australian people to Category:Australians
Nominator's rationale: per main article. —Justin (koavf)TCM06:36, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Python programming language[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Jafeluv (talk) 08:05, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Python programming language to Category:Python (programming language)
Nominator's rationale: Per main article —Justin (koavf)TCM06:28, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Civil law[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Jafeluv (talk) 08:04, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Civil law to Category:Civil law (common law)
Nominator's rationale: Per Civil law/Civil law (common law)Justin (koavf)TCM06:24, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Jafeluv (talk) 07:39, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back was a minor film. Currently the category holds three articles, with no possibility for expansion. Finally, there is a Category:View Askewniverse films which at least groups this film with its progenitor. Speciate (talk) 06:05, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Humor[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Keep. Jafeluv (talk) 07:38, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Humor to Category:Humour
Nominator's rationale: Per main article. —Justin (koavf)TCM05:53, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If you read the MOS (WP:MOS:ENGVAR) you will see that WP does not prefer one variant over another. Ephebi (talk) 23:30, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:The Divine Comedy (Dante)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: No consensus. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:38, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:The Divine Comedy (Dante) to Category:Divine Comedy
Nominator's rationale: Per main article. —Justin (koavf)TCM05:12, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
WP:Category names says that standard article naming conventions apply to categories, but it only gives the example of non-capitalisation; it does not say that PRIMARYTOPIC applies to categories, or even that category names should generally match the lead article. Although there is not much at stake here, I'm still inclined to keep the unambiguous version. - Fayenatic (talk) 12:47, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Ships by name[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Jafeluv (talk) 07:35, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Ships named Nautilus (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Ships named Valiant (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Ships named Enterprise (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Ships by name (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) (added 13 June)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. These categories are acting as inappropriate disambiguation pages and are violating the guideline which says to avoid categorizing things by shared name. What these categories accomplish is already accomplished by disambiguation pages, such as here, here, here, and here. (Perhaps rather than having the Enterprise ones broken down in this way these could be listified into single DAB pages that list all ships that go by that name?) Note that these were discussed in 2004. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:07, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Listify Valiant and Enterprise are missing list articles for the various ships of that name. Nautilus does have such a list though... Ships named Nautilus. 65.94.47.63 (talk) 06:05, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • (nods) Listification seems a sensible move. Certainly we don't need the cats, but some form of reference is a good idea. Grutness...wha? 07:40, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as clear-cut overcategorization by shared name. Listify if desired but not as a pre-requisite for deletion. Harley Hudson (talk) 15:55, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Lists, categories...it's like tomAYto, toMAHto. Different ways to arrive at a similarly useful conclusion. The point here is to improve the encyclopedia; having both categories and lists certainly does that.  Frank  |  talk  01:14, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Not tomayto and tomahto at all - more apples and oranges. They achieve different purposes by the amount of information in them. Which makes more sense for ships named Enterprise - to present them alphabetically with no extra information in a category, or to present them in some other order, such as chronologically, with a line or so of info about each in a list? Which makes it clear which articles are missing, a category which presents all currentl;y-existing articles, or a list which also presents red links? Given that having both simply doubles up information, I'd say a list is far and a away the better option. Grutness...wha? 02:09, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
OK, perhaps I should have said peach and nectarine. Feel free to disregard the analogy...the main point is that there is no reason to need exactly one of the two. Having both does no harm, and, indeed, helps make the encyclopedia a place more people can interact with meaningfully.  Frank  |  talk  02:27, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Shaft[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename to ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Shaft (franchise). עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:35, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Shaft to Category:John Shaft or Category:Shaft (franchise) or other
Nominator's rationale: Rename. I think that this category does need to be renamed, since "Shaft" is quite ambiguous, but I'm not too sure what it should be renamed to. The article about the character is John Shaft, so it could be renamed that. But since the character is more commonly recognizable by the name "Shaft", so ‹The template Cat is being considered for merging.› Category:Shaft (franchise) might be appropriate? Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:58, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Shaft albums[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 11:43, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Shaft albums to Category:Shaft (New Zealand band) albums
Nominator's rationale: Rename. I suggest renaming to match Shaft (New Zealand band). There is a British band of the same name and Shaft is otherwise ambiguous. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:56, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:BAFTA Award for Best Actor in a Supporting Role templates[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Jafeluv (talk) 08:02, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:BAFTA Award for Best Actor in a Supporting Role templates to Category:BAFTA Award for Best Supporting Actor templates
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Seeking naming consistency with Category:BAFTA Award for Best Supporting Actress templates, Category:Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor templates and Category:Golden Globe Award for Best Supporting Actor templates TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:51, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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