Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Mandelbrot set 2

Mandelbrot set

The current FP version with 2500x2000 by BernardH

I would like to nominate an improved version of an image refused in novemver 2006: This image was nominated with a resolution of 1280x960. The majority voted for an alternative image with 2500x2000 proposed by BernardH due to its higher resolution even though some people preferred the colors of the original image. Now I have calculated the original image again with improved resolution of 2560x1920. Furthermore I think most people did not know that it is not an isolated image but an entrance point to a zoom sequence into the Mandelbrot set:

Start	Step 1	Step 2	Step 3
Step 4	Step 5	Step 6	Step 7
Step 8	Step 9	Step 10	Step 11
Step 12	Step 13	Step 14

This series is accompanied by a second series with frames indicating each image position in its precursor. The description of each image contains a corresponding thumb (except the first one of course) and links to the other images. This affiliation to an image set, selected for demonstrating several basic features of the Mandelbrot set and its infinite richness of different structures, enhances its encyclopaedic value. The cyclic color palette is assigned according to a well adjusted logarithmic function in order to get pleasing results over the whole zoom factor of 1:60,000,000,000. Therefore I would like to nominate it again with improved resolution and BernardH's version for delisting (I don't know if an image series can be nominated as a whole ;-)). --Wolfgangbeyer 08:24, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I think this whole series is feature-worthy, but not as separate images. May I suggest you add the step 1 - 14 gallery onto the start image page as thumbnails, not just numbers. Then they would all be easily accessible by clicking the first image. I'll gladly support after that addition. --Janke | Talk 08:39, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good idea. --Wolfgangbeyer 09:13, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, now you get one big, and 14 small supports from me. (Remember, Walt Disney got one big, and seven small Oscars for "Snow White"... ;-) --Janke | Talk 10:03, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose the single image as not interesting enough. I would support several of the other images. I like the set as a whole the best, and it would receive my strong support. I suggest withdrawing this nomination, and create and nominate a composite image of the entire sequence. It's an excellent set! Royalbroil^T : C 15:58, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to contradict you, but a composite image wouldn't work like this one does. Click on the big image, and you'll see all 14 zooms in a gallery, and can continue from there. --Janke | Talk 17:12, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

- Support as a set. No problem, and no insult taken. Has a set ever been featured? Royalbroil^T : C 23:56, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support all images, as a set. This time I'm quite confident this is the proper way to introduce the Mandelbrot set. Alvesgaspar 16:11, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That's a pretty awesome idea. I like how you can click through the images and have their positions shown on the thumbnail on the image page. I also preferred the color scheme of your original version. I fully support the big image. But I'm not sure FP is the right place for the series, it seems beyond FP for me (in a good way). Anyway, great job! --Dschwen 20:24, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Just to clarify, I don't want a composite image, the set is great. I'd say put the initial image in the FP gallery with a little comment about the series. The similarity between this and the recently promote pic would make this a case where we might think about a replacemnet nomination. --Dschwen 20:27, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support but just the first image. To promote the entire set seems a bit too much. Has someone created an article pertaining to that particular fractal where they can load all the individual steps? Riguy 21:42, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just inserted the gallery with explanations for each image to the corresponding article Mandelbrot set. --Wolfgangbeyer 23:20, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Great, looks really nice. Riguy 03:21, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Support as a set They're just brilliant. Terri G 10:53, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose start image. Support as sequence, and if this becomes PSotD let's use 4, 5 or 14 instead. ~ trialsanderrors 17:42, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support set, per above. Figure out some way to feature sets. What would really be cool would be to have a zooming gif incorporating them all, and the intermediate frames. --Here T oHelp 03:11, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I made a corresponding 1024x768 high resolution animation with 37MB, which I offer by a link in Mandelbrot set#External links to my private homepage because it is to large for uploading in WP ;-). But there is also a smaller 4MB version with 400x300.--Wolfgangbeyer 07:36, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Although I'm not voting, I wanted to really appreciate the hard work the author had put in this, specially the image page. good job. --Arad 04:46, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The zooms are what really dazzle me. Would a composite image of the zooms (ending up around 2580x1920) be any good? There is even one square left for text. -Ravedave ^{(help name my baby)} 04:57, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support Like I wrote in the last nom, the sequence is particulary good. If it can be nominated as a set, it's fine. Perhaps it could still benefit from one or more steps to zoom on the minibrot in the center of the last frame. Probably delisting of either my Mandelbrot FP or Evercat's one could be in order (but it should be done separately). Btw, I cannot view my 2500px Mandelbrot image at full res anymore, and I've been told I'm not the only one. The other sizes still work: 5000px, 10000px. --Bernard 17:45, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Yeah, even more zooms would make it even better.--HereToHelp 21:57, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  - Any real zoom must have an end sooner or later. I chose the path and its end point not only from an aesthetic viewpoint but also to pass typical structures which I described in the figure captions. The primary aim of an encyclopaedia is to offer knowledge. So I think It's perhaps not a good idea to zoom deeper, because I don't know anything new to tell about the corresponding structures. --Wolfgangbeyer 15:47, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    - My request was really to illustrate a precise point: that we find minibrots in the center of those "pseudo-julia sets". The first minibrot frame didn't show that. --Bernard 00:24, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support all pics Incredible set. All could be featured. Sharkface217 19:37, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support As Set. An amazing set of pictures. NauticaShad e s 13:51, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted Image:Mandel zoom 00 mandelbrot set.jpg. This is an unusual nom; I'll stick the FP tag on all the images but only put the first one on the FP and FPT pages. I'll also replace Image:Mandelbrot set 2500px.png with this one. Raven4x4x 07:13, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]