Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/My Hands

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The result was redirect to Echo (Leona Lewis album). Aoidh (talk) 00:26, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My Hands

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Although the article is a GA but I can't find anything that determines the song's notability. The sources don't provide much (nor are accessible) and I can't find any other sources. Onegreatjoke (talk) 22:11, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 22:18, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, just because a source is locked doesn't mean its not reliable or not present. Go to a Library and you can check print copies of periodicals. I'm sure that a search of the wayback machine and webcite archive could easily recover some of the dead sites. Furthermore, charting is indicative of notability per WP:NMUSIC. >> Lil-unique1 (talk) — 22:40, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Lil-unique1: Charting isn't guaranteed notability as per that same article WP:NSONG "(Note again that this indicates only that a song may be notable, not that it is notable.)" Especially since it only got spot 145 at its peak. Plus, we still need to look WP:SIGCOV as even the sources in the article are reviews about the album Echo and not about the song specifically (even the more unaccessible sources I checked on the wayback machine). Onegreatjoke (talk) 23:00, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Onegreatjoke I never said it was guaranteed notability, just indicative. Now your rationale has changed I can see why you might consider it mergeable to to the album instead of outright deletion - it is a viable search term given it was used in a notable video game. It is very lazy to say that it's not sourced just because something is behind a paywall. Why did you not start a merge discussion as there is a suitable target page, the parent album: Echo (Leona Lewis album)? AFD is not the forum for merging content. What's done is done now, lets's see if we can restore the dead sources and see if any more information is available as well as the outcome of the discussion. >> Lil-unique1 (talk) — 23:10, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Echo (Leona Lewis album): reliable coverage on page is all album reviews which only briefly mention the song as part of the larger release, and I found no additional reliable coverage that is specifically about this song. There's really not much worth merging here; most information is either unreliable or already present at the album article. The handful of review quotes could be moved over, but that article is already massive and doesn't need more overstuffing so I'd recommend against it. Charting is of little significance, especially compared to the album's two singles. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 04:12, 24 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Echo (Leona Lewis album). I tried looking for further sources, and I could not find that much. This Billboard article has a section about it in a larger list on video game songs, but most of the sources I could find are very superficial, like MTV and Digital Spy. I could not find evidence of significant coverage in third-party, reliable sources outside of album reviews, which is rather surprising given the Final Fantasy connection. That being said, I still think this is a viable search term, and I believe a redirect is more beneficial to readers than outright deletion. Aoba47 (talk) 23:42, 24 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.