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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:10, 26 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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A Burmese author of questionable notability. He appears to have won a couple of awards from the Burmese government. The only reliable source is The New Light of Myanmar, a jingoistic mouthpiece of the government, which just includes him in the list of winners. I'm not convinced of the notability of the awards, and there is no significant coverage of the subject. The article has been the subject of continuing edits by anonymous editors inserting unsourced and incorrect information. Given his borderline notability I think we might be better off without this article. Pburka (talk) 01:29, 17 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Asia-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:27, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:28, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I would not be surprised if the anonymous editors are connected with the subject, having access to non published information. Due to thin coverage on topics from Burma, I would vote keep. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 04:39, 17 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- [1] on an unrelated matter claims to be the subject in an however it's not clear to me it's related to any of the IPs editing here. Nil Einne (talk) 18:17, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- That is sort of interesting. I would guess that Myint Kywe would not himself be fooling around with the wikis. He seems a bit too respectable for that. It is probably just some kids playing a game. The note you find could be genuine, or could be disinformation. For AfD purposes we have to ignore all the activity anyway. The question is just whether the subject is notable. Aymatth2 (talk) 18:40, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- [1] on an unrelated matter claims to be the subject in an however it's not clear to me it's related to any of the IPs editing here. Nil Einne (talk) 18:17, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep The New Light of Myanmar is the main source, not exactly unbiased, but presumably accurate in reporting the prizes. Blog-type sources seem to confirm authorship of various books. Presumably Burmese sources would give more detail. For Burma, this guy has solid web coverage. Aymatth2 (talk) 14:15, 17 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
DeleteWeak keep. I'm striking my delete vote per arguments by Aymatth2 and changing to weak keep. Bgwhite (talk) 21:19, 23 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The problem with the blog-type sources and other is that they all appear to be associated with Myoma Myint Kywe. I think Myoma Myint Kywe is mounting a web campaign to get his name noticed. Everything from Yahoo answers, Hug Answer, dermatology review site and my favorite, a book review that has nothing to do With Myoma Myint Kywe, but the anonymous postings are chalk full of him and his father, including copy/paste of what has been on Wikipedia. If there is a wiki site on the web, he is on it and it is a posting of the earlier Wikipedia article. I counted atleast 35 people "honored" for awards in the newspaper article. So, what do we have, internet sources appearing to be all of Myoma Myint Kywe's work and a story from the government's mouth piece saying he won an award. He clearly doesn't pass WP:GNG. Bgwhite (talk) 22:30, 17 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- So the military government announced in 2004 that he had won an award, and in 2007 that he had won another. In 2011 there was some sort of Myint Kywe awareness campaign. Men and women of letters will be dutiful to [the] nation only if their works serve public interest. Internal and external elements [are] resorting to various means to tarnish Myanmar’s image It is time to compile [a] mass of literary works designed to rebut various forms of accusations and made-up stories created at home or abroad. Interesting. I am inclined to say "watch this space". Certainly there is no urgency to delete it. Aymatth2 (talk) 01:50, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- There is nothing in the article about a 2011 awareness campaign. The article has been around for two years. How much longer should we watch? All we know about him is that he won two awards the help stop the, "the fabricating of stories, slanderous news and groundless accusations against Myanmar through Western media to mislead the international community into misunderstanding the nation." Bgwhite (talk) 02:23, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- See Sarpay Beikman. These are the most prestigious literary awards in Burma. They are awarded by a division of the Ministry of Information and the works have to support party aims, promote patriotism and so on. They are reported in government-owned media. Welcome to Burma. If, as you say, there is a web campaign to promote the guy on English-language sites, that suggests there may be more going on. But the awards alone are enough to establish notability. Aymatth2 (talk) 16:42, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- There is nothing in the article about a 2011 awareness campaign. The article has been around for two years. How much longer should we watch? All we know about him is that he won two awards the help stop the, "the fabricating of stories, slanderous news and groundless accusations against Myanmar through Western media to mislead the international community into misunderstanding the nation." Bgwhite (talk) 02:23, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- So the military government announced in 2004 that he had won an award, and in 2007 that he had won another. In 2011 there was some sort of Myint Kywe awareness campaign. Men and women of letters will be dutiful to [the] nation only if their works serve public interest. Internal and external elements [are] resorting to various means to tarnish Myanmar’s image It is time to compile [a] mass of literary works designed to rebut various forms of accusations and made-up stories created at home or abroad. Interesting. I am inclined to say "watch this space". Certainly there is no urgency to delete it. Aymatth2 (talk) 01:50, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.